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Thread Number: 43394
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| Post# 638048 , Reply# 2 11/10/2012 at 12:39 (4,176 days old) by stephenk (Plains) | ||
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Here's the other side of the kitchen, just for your info. 
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| Post# 638049 , Reply# 3 11/10/2012 at 12:40 (4,176 days old) by stephenk (Plains) | ||
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Just for kicks, here's a pic of the house. 
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Post# 638050 , Reply# 4 11/10/2012 at 12:41 (4,176 days old) by gansky1  (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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| Post# 638052 , Reply# 5 11/10/2012 at 12:50 (4,176 days old) by stephenk (Plains) | ||
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Yeah, I'd hate to eliminate that cabinet with 4 drawers (I accidentally wrote 5 drawers above, but you can see that it's actually 4). It might not be an ideal location, but it seems to be the best I can do with the current kitchen layout. | ||
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Post# 638053 , Reply# 6 11/10/2012 at 12:54 (4,176 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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Post# 638054 , Reply# 7 11/10/2012 at 12:55 (4,176 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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| Post# 638082 , Reply# 8 11/10/2012 at 15:38 (4,176 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
I do find it interesting that there is no draining board as part of the sink....
However, better to lose the cupboard than the drawers, especially if you can make the top drawer between the dishwasher and sink the cutlery drawer etc... If you're concerned about drips etc when moving items from a rinse or scrape to the machine, just put a hand towel over the edge of the counter. | ||
| Post# 638095 , Reply# 9 11/10/2012 at 16:29 (4,176 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Post# 638144 , Reply# 10 11/10/2012 at 20:34 (4,176 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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this placement helps prevent drips from dishes falling on th Looks reasonable to me. A slight aerobic workout lol. However, proper indoctrination from Mr. BobLoad himself. (me) Drips falling from dishes on the floor implies one thing. Pre-rinsing of dishes. l In these here parts, an absolute no no. Proper automatic dishwashing does not need to have dishes pre-rinserd by hand. Sufficient scraping and loading. BTW, what brand of machine are you considering? (I'm assuming modern). | ||
| Post# 638148 , Reply# 11 11/10/2012 at 22:15 (4,176 days old) by coldspot () | ||
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"Have you thought about a portable dishwasher? That is if you got a place to put it when not and use. | ||
| Post# 638149 , Reply# 12 11/10/2012 at 22:24 (4,176 days old) by keny (Detroit, Michigan) | ||
Move the drawers?
As another option, isn't there some way to move the 4 drawers to the extreme left? Is it an individual segment? You could support and protect the countertop as you remove everything to the left of the sink and reconfigure.
Remember you'll be carrying wet, dripping dishes a longer distance if you do it the other way. You may be able to patch up or cover screw holes with wood filler or molding after you remove the cabinets and drawers. Good luck with the project in any case. | ||
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Post# 638153 , Reply# 13 11/10/2012 at 22:48 (4,176 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Post# 638161 , Reply# 15 11/11/2012 at 00:24 (4,176 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI) |
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The minute I saw the picture my thought was to move the drawer unit to the end as others have said. Depends on the construction. | ||
| Post# 638201 , Reply# 17 11/11/2012 at 08:48 (4,175 days old) by chris74 () | ||
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It's a shame... ...that you don't have more room. I think it will be a pity to destroy that beautiful sink/cupboard combination. | ||
| Post# 638241 , Reply# 19 11/11/2012 at 13:57 (4,175 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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It should be fine as it is only about one cupboard's width away from the sink. Just make sure that the water hose and drain hose are installed correctly, according to the installation instructions. | ||
| Post# 638432 , Reply# 22 11/12/2012 at 01:07 (4,175 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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If his kitchen schematic is correct a portable with door open is not the greatest of options. A built in is a good investment at resale time. alr | ||
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Post# 638611 , Reply# 23 11/12/2012 at 19:41 (4,174 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Dishwasher Location I see nothing wrong with placing the DW in the corner, it is actually a better location because when the door is open it is not right in the middle of the kitchen.
As an Appliance sales and repair person for almost 40 years I would not buy the Bosch DW unless you are prepared for a much smaller capacity machine that does a poor job drying dishes and one that you will be so frustrated with when it breaks you will likely replace it rather than try to fix it.
I would buy a Kitchenaid DW with the disposer or any MT DW as they all have the disposer or if you like any KM DW with the disposer that is built by Whirlpool, the WP built KMs will have an actuall model # that begins 665. . | ||
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Post# 638678 , Reply# 24 11/12/2012 at 23:48 (4,174 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 638712 , Reply# 25 11/13/2012 at 07:55 (4,173 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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New DW Selection Yes we all have are opinions or even biases and mine have come from working on over 10.000 residential dishwashers over the last 40 years, including many Bosch DWs. I have hundreds of customers that have Bosch DWs and most are very happy with them [ when they are working ]. I have found that when replacement time comes few will buy another however.
All that said, it is a fact that they are MUCH smaller inside, take a measuring tape with you when you shop.
The loading is much more restricted as a result and it is much harder to random load large items in them.
And if you ever need to get the main pump and motor, heater assembly or have to fix even normally simple things like door springs and hinges you mush remove the entire machine to do so, Expensive, LOL
They do not have a heated dry cycle so drying performance is more iffy, you will likely have to purchase and use wetting agent to get best results costing you an extra hundred dollars or more over the life of the DW.
Lastly I am an independent Appliance Sales and Service dealer, we sell and service almost all makes and models. It is often a good idea if someone wants a particular brand appliance that is not completely mainstream to call a few independent dealers [ with great reputations ]in the area you live in and ask them if they would recommend the appliance you are considering purchasing and are happy about working on it in the future.
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Post# 638740 , Reply# 27 11/13/2012 at 11:19 (4,173 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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great ideas, built in dw will be a value-added, but...just a couple comments
1) That chosen area is valuable storage space, period, but you have made a decision to do a built-in. But just remember, and I base this on 10 years living in a 450ft2 flat, you will want space if you plan on living there for any length of time. So think about that chosen area - the large cupboard is perfect for one of those double pull out drawers(steel or wood, if you prefer) to house pots, pans, lids, cooking ware, or to create a nice augmented pantry area. To the right, I don't know what those are, but the tall long cupboard beneath the small drawer would make for a nice can/spice rack pull out(or additional items). 2)A portable would be great, if you had a nook where you could use the extra counter space that comes with a portable ... I don't see any space for that(?). 3)Your stove (which is not positioned at the right height, agree with ar2903)has space to the right of it. If you can utilize that space with a tall pull-out, and maybe a small drawer, you can regain some of what's lost if you put your dishwasher in where planned. not easy, is it? :-) | ||
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Post# 638950 , Reply# 29 11/14/2012 at 00:25 (4,173 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 638954 , Reply# 30 11/14/2012 at 00:36 (4,173 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 639009 , Reply# 31 11/14/2012 at 09:57 (4,172 days old) by stephenk (Plains) | ||
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Yes, I know the bottom of the tub is plastic. | ||
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Post# 639592 , Reply# 33 11/17/2012 at 02:00 (4,169 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 642442 , Reply# 35 11/28/2012 at 23:27 (4,158 days old) by stephenk (Plains) | ||
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I bought a Bosch SHE3ARL6UC last weekend. I paid $449 + tax. It's waiting in my garage right now. We close on our new house later this week. 
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Post# 642455 , Reply# 36 11/29/2012 at 00:41 (4,158 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Post# 642467 , Reply# 37 11/29/2012 at 01:09 (4,158 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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I would move the | ||
| Post# 643583 , Reply# 40 12/2/2012 at 21:28 (4,154 days old) by stephenk (Plains) | ||
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Here's the first test fit. The unit clearly isn't squared up in the opening. And, it will be higher and closer to the counter in the final installation. I had the legs adjusted to the shortest position in this picture. The next step will be the plumbing. 
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| Post# 643600 , Reply# 42 12/2/2012 at 21:54 (4,154 days old) by applianceguy47 () | ||
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oh, You need to update your outlets in the kitchen to include 3 prong outlets and a few GFI outlets that are ahead of all other outlets. | ||
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Post# 643664 , Reply# 44 12/3/2012 at 07:50 (4,153 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada) |
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Post# 643675 , Reply# 45 12/3/2012 at 08:48 (4,153 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Post# 643677 , Reply# 46 12/3/2012 at 08:53 (4,153 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Post# 644143 , Reply# 49 12/4/2012 at 23:37 (4,152 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 644147 , Reply# 50 12/5/2012 at 00:28 (4,152 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Post# 644178 , Reply# 51 12/5/2012 at 07:34 (4,151 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada) |
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| Post# 644219 , Reply# 52 12/5/2012 at 11:41 (4,151 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Post# 644641 , Reply# 53 12/6/2012 at 21:37 (4,150 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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Post# 644667 , Reply# 54 12/6/2012 at 23:46 (4,150 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN) |
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