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Thread Number: 43623
Maytag MTW5600 tub holes rusting, what to do? |
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Post# 641056 , Reply# 1 11/23/2012 at 14:06 (4,164 days old) by Launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Ajax Won't Do A Thing
Indeed the chlorine bleach combined with the abrasive nature of the scrubbing powder can wear down the porcelain finish more than it was alread.
The rust IIRC is caused by areas where the porcelain has been worn or otherwise damaged away exposing the metal underneath. This can happen if the surface is nicked by metal buttons or some such on laundry or such objects not removed before wash goes into the tubs. Poreclain is also weakened by acids even weak ones such as white vinegar. Quite allot of persons add that stuff to their rinse loads as a "fabric softener", which can over time lead to tub damage. If the damage is only one or two small areas you might look into preparing the rust spots, then covering with expoxy porcelain "touch up" paint. You are going to have to seek out a type that is made to withstand immersion in water as opposed to merely touching up dings on appliance surfaces. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK | ||
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Post# 641065 , Reply# 3 11/23/2012 at 14:49 (4,164 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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My *Vintage* Whirlpool Washer
Has a porcelian tub and the owner's manual references about using acids including vinegar, long story short one shouldn't do it often and contact times should be short. That is one shouldn't soak items in "acid" water for long periods either.
Basically porcelain inner tubs on dishwashers and washing machines were designed to withstand alkaline conditions, which is natural as that is what where most detergents rank on the pH scale. Acids however are another ball game. If you read the warnings on acid rust remover products such as "Wink" they caution against allowing the product coming into contact with porcelian finishes. Acid products meant to be used in dishwashers/washing machines such as rust/iron removers and tub *cleaners* are buffered and also carry instructions that several rinses must follow use. Most modern front loaders have stainless steel inner tubs and the outer are the same or fiberglass. Neither of these are affected by weak acids such as vinegar, but it is still a good idea not to go overboard and follow use with a clear water rinse. | ||
| Post# 641123 , Reply# 4 11/23/2012 at 22:52 (4,163 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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Another way to do this would be is to replace your tub with a new one, which is available. They are not that hard to replace, you could do it yourself. The inner tub and outer tub is still available for under $200. each. CLICK HERE TO GO TO whirlcool's LINK | ||
| Post# 641143 , Reply# 6 11/24/2012 at 00:24 (4,163 days old) by warrenkeller () | ||
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I see in that link you put there's the tub I have the dark one and then a white one for more cash. Is the coating different or better on the white tub than the dark one? Will the white tub last longer? | ||
| Post# 641222 , Reply# 9 11/24/2012 at 13:19 (4,163 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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I don't know the differences really. This question is best answered by a more knowledgeable Maytag guy. I'm more of a Whirlpool DD person. Dadoes probably would know. | ||
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Post# 641330 , Reply# 10 11/24/2012 at 18:57 (4,163 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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One of the best ways to protect porcelain tubs | ||
| Post# 641338 , Reply# 11 11/24/2012 at 19:28 (4,163 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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And make sure items with metal zippers are zipped shut too. From my Whirlpool users manual. | ||
| Post# 641351 , Reply# 12 11/24/2012 at 21:00 (4,163 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
DD... | ||
| Post# 641359 , Reply# 13 11/24/2012 at 21:18 (4,163 days old) by warrenkeller () | ||
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It is a whirlpool DD model. | ||
| Post# 641372 , Reply# 14 11/24/2012 at 23:08 (4,162 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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Before replacing the tub, how does the machine look? Does everything on it operate properly? If you are having other problems with this machine, I'd address those issues first. I'd say that if the white tub is the same size as the black speckled ones AND the mounting holes line up with the white tub than you could probably use it. Are the weights of the tubs similar? | ||
| Post# 641935 , Reply# 16 11/26/2012 at 23:43 (4,160 days old) by warrenkeller () | ||
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Hi Maytag said they'd replace the tub and tranny today. Service date is for Monday. I'm really excited. | ||
| Post# 641973 , Reply# 17 11/27/2012 at 03:41 (4,160 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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Looks like your problem has been solved. Did they put in a white tub or a black & gray speckled tub? | ||
| Post# 642419 , Reply# 19 11/28/2012 at 22:15 (4,159 days old) by Iowegian () | ||
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Wow, getting Maytag(Whirlpool)to fix that machine is awesome! You must be living well. Congrats. | ||
| Post# 642423 , Reply# 21 11/28/2012 at 22:32 (4,158 days old) by warrenkeller () | ||
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I had got the parts yesterday. A new tub. New tranny. Another timer as they said its the timer causing the spin drain, which I doubt because they offer a neutral drain kit for the tranny. And also a water valve. The hot water was coming in very slow | ||
| Post# 642443 , Reply# 24 11/28/2012 at 23:31 (4,158 days old) by Iowegian () | ||
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@directdrivedave: Maybe the early 1960s ones do. Contemporary Whirlpool machines (ones made after about 1984 that is) don't neutral drain. The basket starts to turn, the pump drains out the tub. Then the spin cycle does its thing. Spin, spray rinses, spin... | ||
| Post# 642445 , Reply# 25 11/28/2012 at 23:38 (4,158 days old) by Iowegian () | ||
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@warrenkeller: You don't need to replace the "tub ring". But you do need to be careful. The snap clips can be removed successfully - and not replaced. But if you get all badass, it won't turn out well. | ||
| Post# 642452 , Reply# 26 11/29/2012 at 00:36 (4,158 days old) by warrenkeller () | ||
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I actually won't be installing this. Sears will on Monday. And the snap clips? Which ones and what happened if there broke. Sorry for sounding dumb right now | ||
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Post# 642533 , Reply# 27 11/29/2012 at 06:54 (4,158 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Washer basket replacement When We have had to replace a Super Capacity basket in recent years where it is not covered under warranty, I always use the Stainless Steel basket that was used in the MT DD Washers for a while, I have found that they are the same price. The white porcelain wash baskets with the spiral hole pattern in DD washers had a life-time warranty against rust and other problems when they were introduced, although 5-6 years ago WP eliminated this warranty when they also eliminated the longer warranties on the transmission etc.
All WP built TL washers built since some time in 1985 Neutral Drain as did all WP built washers built from 1947 on. Only the initial introduction of 24" wide DD washers [ late 1981- mid 1985] ever did a spin drain, WP quickly learned that they would not get away with this cost cutting way of building washers and went to considerable trouble and expense to redesign the DD washers to incorporate this desirable function. Today every TL washer built world-wide does a neutral drain with the exception of Speed Queens built for the US market, and that is coming. | ||
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Post# 642543 , Reply# 28 11/29/2012 at 08:02 (4,158 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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When you have the cabinet off of the washer, you can remove and replace the same tub-ring over and over provided you're careful not to break either the white plastic clips on the ring or damage the tang on the edge of the outer tub that the ring attaches to. Press down on the tub ring above the clip and pull it out and away from the tub. I've done this hundreds of times on DD washers and never broken a tub ring. Unless damaged, you can clean and reuse the ring as well, no need to buy new.
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