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Post# 641475   11/25/2012 at 10:22 (4,159 days old) by matthewbrodie ()        

Does anybody on the site have an Maytag E2M? It'd be great to see some photos of it.




Post# 641625 , Reply# 1   11/25/2012 at 21:21 (4,159 days old) by super32 (Blackstone Massachusetts)        

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I don't recall this model, maybe E2L?

Post# 641636 , Reply# 2   11/25/2012 at 22:26 (4,159 days old) by matthewbrodie ()        

Hi Scott:

I was surfing the net and learned that an E2M is an E2L with a gas engine instead of electric. Figured they were pretty rare.


Post# 641640 , Reply# 3   11/25/2012 at 22:52 (4,159 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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If someone has an E2M, I don't recall seeing one on the board. Certainly would be a cool find.

Ben


Post# 641641 , Reply# 4   11/25/2012 at 22:54 (4,159 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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They definitely were made after WWII and most likely well into the 1960s. The J2M was made almost until the end of the production of wringers into the 1980s using a Briggs and Stratton engine. The Amish love to pick these machines up whenever they come up for sale.

Post# 641642 , Reply# 5   11/25/2012 at 23:27 (4,159 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Here is a price list from a 1952 brochure that shows all three models available with a gas engine.

Post# 641643 , Reply# 6   11/25/2012 at 23:29 (4,159 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Don't have one, but this is what they look like.

Post# 641644 , Reply# 7   11/25/2012 at 23:32 (4,159 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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What does the "T" represent in E2LT/E2LPT?

Post# 641645 , Reply# 8   11/25/2012 at 23:36 (4,159 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Timer. Here is a pic of one of Geoff Delp's

Post# 641646 , Reply# 9   11/25/2012 at 23:46 (4,159 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        
Timer

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Duh. I should have known that, lol.

Thanks.


Post# 641887 , Reply# 10   11/26/2012 at 21:54 (4,158 days old) by AutoWasherFreak ()        

Does the time actually shut the machine off? Never seen one of those before.


Post# 641888 , Reply# 11   11/26/2012 at 21:57 (4,158 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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IIRC, the motor only operates when the timer was set. You had to reset the timer to wring clothes out. There wasn't a "hold" setting like the WP/KM wringers had. I think this is why this feature was never popular on the Maytag.

Post# 641896 , Reply# 12   11/26/2012 at 22:05 (4,158 days old) by AutoWasherFreak ()        

Having to reset the timer to keep it going when wringing could get a little annoying. I know if I had a wringer, I would definitely need a timer of some sort. I would get distracted and forget all about the load washing, LOL.


Post# 642028 , Reply# 13   11/27/2012 at 10:15 (4,157 days old) by wringer (x)        
I have

never seen a Maytag wringer with a timer. I have an advertisement for one tho. I did know that Geoff has one but don't remember how I found this out LOL. I have seen both an E2M and a J2M at the Amish. They are keeping them for their collection and have not been restored. They were much heavier than the ones with he electric motor of course. I agree about the timer having to be turned back on to wring. I use mine as daily drivers and that would be a pain. The only one I have that had a safety bulb is my E and I removed it. Talk about a pain. I have a minute timer I use to time my wash length. Maytag wringers do not require long to get the clothes clean. And, when you rinse in them, that time is very short. I am addicted to them LOL.

Jim


Post# 642031 , Reply# 14   11/27/2012 at 10:35 (4,157 days old) by super32 (Blackstone Massachusetts)        

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I didnt know they used the gas powered motors on these later models. Learn something new everyday. I also have never seen a timer on one either.



Post# 642037 , Reply# 15   11/27/2012 at 10:44 (4,157 days old) by e2l-arry (LAKEWOOD COLORADO)        
I would have thought,

That the "M"'s would be big with the Amish? That a gas powered motor was preferable to running a generator. Apparently they prefer the Maytag's that they have to plug in?

That was a family of squatters in upstate New York by my Grandma's that lived in an abandoned farm house when I was a kid. They had no gas,running water or electricity. But they did have a Maytag E2M on the porch they filled from the well and ran the washer using, what I thought at the time, was a big lawn mower engine. I was facinated by it as a kid.

That was the primary customer for these. Rural areas without electricity.


Post# 642049 , Reply# 16   11/27/2012 at 11:03 (4,157 days old) by wringer (x)        
The Amish

still use generators or air motors on their washers. I have been told that they no longer use gas for what reason I don't know. They either have generators to use for accepted electrical appliances or they have air compressors outside with holding tanks. There are so many different sects of the Amish that I don't know who uses what. My Amish friends do not use things that we English use to make life easier. I do know that some Amish sects do use electricty for certain things. My Amish friends wear only hand made clothing for the most part. The younger men do wear store bought shirts and sweat shirts.

Post# 642064 , Reply# 17   11/27/2012 at 12:11 (4,157 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Here is a picture of a very late production N2MS that is housed at the Jasper County museum in Newton. This has a Briggs & Stratton 4 cycle engine on it. I am not sure of the housepower but would guess it's probably a 2 or 3 horse engine. The metal tubing that is coiled up in the box is the exhaust line. That way you could operate the machine on a porch or even in a basement sine you could run the exhaust out the door or a window.

When my father saw this picture it brought back memories of HIS grandmother's Grey Ghost with an engine. He and his adolesent cousins always refered to it as "the gopher killer" since they would take the exhaust tube and stick it down gopher holes in the yard!


Post# 642072 , Reply# 18   11/27/2012 at 12:52 (4,157 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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And...here is an illustration of an E2M from a 1952 brochure.
This machine still has the Maytag-made Multi-motor.
Does anyone know what year they transitioned to using non-Maytag engines?


Post# 642076 , Reply# 19   11/27/2012 at 13:16 (4,157 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
The "T" ~

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Once fascinated to hear of the "T" until Geoff told me that the motor starts immediately on plug-in just like all other conventional Maytags. You set the timer for the number of minutes, and when done, the timer simply shuts off the gyrator; the motor remains active for wringing or pumping, waiting for you to return, the motor still running. Not a very useful thing; hence abandonned.

 

Could never get over why Newton thinkers could not get out of the box on this one. How perfect a Tag would be with an auto shut-off--its only known defect.

 

Why, Gentlemen, do you suppose they never got up to speed on this, when nearly all other conventional machines sported an automatic timer, sooner or later, WP KM SQ Blackstone, Norge, ?


Post# 642079 , Reply# 20   11/27/2012 at 13:22 (4,157 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN)        

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The Speed Queen (from the early 70s, I think) I had, had a timer that just rang at the end of the set time...it didn't even shut off the agitator. Did SQ come up with one later or have an earlier model where the timer shut the machine off?

Post# 642130 , Reply# 21   11/27/2012 at 17:50 (4,157 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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Yes, a model with an extruding control panel and a timer reading HOLD, OFF 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8, was the automatic one. Interesting that maximum wash time was eight minutes. What secrets were locked away in the Speed Queen laboratories

 

Robert's Ephemera Brochure from last week displaying Norge Wringers was instructive. There you can see that many models were offered even in the early years. The TOL model had a full chrome wringer, not just the feeding trays like mine has. It was stunning, also featuring an extruding decorative control panel. I had never heard of such a machine. There were 8 models, only 5 of which were familiar.

 

The assumption here is that Speed Queen, although more limited, like Maytag, in the variety of models manufactured may have offered the automatic timer and the neutral one during the same years. I'm trying to learn at what point SQ changed the speed of the 180 stroke.

 

I once owned an older SQ with a red agitator (NO chrome cap, alas) a stainless steel tub, an automatic timer, and slow stroke agitation.

 

Neither SQ, Norge nor Maytag ever offered two speed motors while WP KM and Easy all did. Endless fascination and mystery!

 


Post# 642148 , Reply# 22   11/27/2012 at 19:30 (4,157 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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When my father saw this picture it brought back memories of HIS grandmother's Grey Ghost with an engine. He and his adolescent cousins always referred to it as "the gopher killer" since they would take the exhaust tube and stick it down gopher holes in the yard!

SmiliesFTW.com

Talk about mulit-functional use. Wash/wring/extract and kill varmints :D

Does anyone know what year they transitioned to using non-Maytag engines?

According to my records, 1952 was the last year Maytag used the 72 engine, the last of the 2 stroke mulit-motors. Maytag probably started using the Briggs 4 strokers soon after.


Post# 642157 , Reply# 23   11/27/2012 at 20:13 (4,157 days old) by matthewbrodie ()        
Thanks

Thanks for all the great responses. The first pic posted that still has the paper on the wringers. That unit was for sale at one point but the posting was from 2010. I still imagine they are quite rare since they were more expensive. I'd also imagine that when the buyers got electricity they took the motor off and used it for other uses.


Post# 642163 , Reply# 24   11/27/2012 at 20:39 (4,157 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Maytag carried out their tradition of making parts available for their older equipment and actually still produced replacement parts for those multi motors into the 90's.

 

I was chatting with the parts counter guy a few years back in my neighborhood about old Maytags and wringers came up in the conversation.

 

In 1994, a customer came into his shop with a broken kick starter. Being unfamiliar with these antiques, he told the guy to go down a few blocks to the motorcycle repair shop. The guy stated it was off of a Maytag, not a motorcycle. Back then, Maytag still produced parts for most all of their old appliances and he was fully aware of that. The customer had the model # of the engine (it was a 92) and the part # on the kick starter was still legible when the broken pieces were held together. With nothing to lose but a little time, he called Maytag corporate headquarters and was able to get a straight line to a very knowledgeable parts person. After giving them the information, they stated "We don't have the kick starter in stock, but we still have the original molds and can custom make him one. Should be done and shipped out in 2 weeks." The customer went for it (he couldn't recall the price) and sure enough, it arrived on time, brand spankin new in the box.

 

What other company would go to the trouble and great lengths of custom making one single part for a piece of machinery that had been obsoleted for 60 freakin years?


Post# 642193 , Reply# 25   11/27/2012 at 22:36 (4,157 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Dan - that is a great story!

Post# 642341 , Reply# 26   11/28/2012 at 15:25 (4,156 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
GASSING THE GOPHERS!!!

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I missed that, Mark. What a gas!

 

Did you ever find out if it worked, difficult though that may have been?--finding out.



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