Thread Number: 43803
Another KitchenAid ''what's the year'' question |
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Post# 643810   12/3/2012 at 20:09 (4,132 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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Seller says it's in very very good condition. Probably a early '90s whirlpool? thanks |
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Post# 643817 , Reply# 1   12/3/2012 at 20:20 (4,132 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 643841 , Reply# 2   12/3/2012 at 20:39 (4,132 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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Thanks for the answer. Do you think 100$ is ok for this model if in good shape? |
Post# 643845 , Reply# 3   12/3/2012 at 20:43 (4,132 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 643846 , Reply# 4   12/3/2012 at 20:47 (4,132 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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Good question. I'll take a look at it if close enough. |
Post# 643860 , Reply# 7   12/3/2012 at 21:23 (4,132 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 643861 , Reply# 8   12/3/2012 at 21:23 (4,132 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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The rinse only button is on the horizontal side on the 22 isin't it? |
Post# 643863 , Reply# 9   12/3/2012 at 21:27 (4,132 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 643887 , Reply# 11   12/3/2012 at 22:06 (4,132 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 643888 , Reply# 12   12/3/2012 at 22:09 (4,132 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 643898 , Reply# 13   12/3/2012 at 22:38 (4,132 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 644286 , Reply# 14   12/5/2012 at 16:20 (4,130 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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The owner says it's a KUDA220t CLICK HERE TO GO TO bogo's LINK |
Post# 644291 , Reply# 15   12/5/2012 at 16:49 (4,130 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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According to this video description it's from 1993. I think I'm going to get it soon. CLICK HERE TO GO TO bogo's LINK |
Post# 644308 , Reply# 16   12/5/2012 at 18:09 (4,130 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 644321 , Reply# 17   12/5/2012 at 18:45 (4,130 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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Yes I will see. She says she's the only owner. She preferred to wash dishes by hand and it's almost unused. |
Post# 644357 , Reply# 18   12/5/2012 at 20:33 (4,130 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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Does it have the PowerClean Module pump or the Hobart pump? |
Post# 644358 , Reply# 19   12/5/2012 at 20:39 (4,130 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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Since they explain in the manual how to clean the filter it must be a Hobart. Steve was right thinking that was 22 model. |
Post# 644364 , Reply# 20   12/5/2012 at 21:11 (4,130 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 644367 , Reply# 21   12/5/2012 at 21:33 (4,130 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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Don't know why I thought it was a KUDA22 in the youtube video I posted above. Time to upgrade my account here to be able to edit my posts. |
Post# 644368 , Reply# 22   12/5/2012 at 21:34 (4,130 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 644371 , Reply# 23   12/5/2012 at 21:42 (4,130 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)   |   | |
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Thank you. |
Post# 644379 , Reply# 24   12/5/2012 at 22:55 (4,130 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 644449 , Reply# 25   12/6/2012 at 07:28 (4,130 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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Hmmm, not much part available for this model. I'm wondering if it's possible that the pump seal ring has dried out if the machine wasn't use for years? CLICK HERE TO GO TO bogo's LINK |
Post# 644527 , Reply# 26   12/6/2012 at 12:10 (4,130 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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It's possible. The best way to find out is to dump some really hot water into the sump area and let it sit there a while in order to soften up the seal, then give the machine a run. These were well-built machines with quality components so if there's a slight leak, it may "take up" with just a bit of use.
It's a chance you take when you buy an older machine, and I'd suggest using the possibility of a dried up seal as a bargaining tool for a lower price. |
Post# 644774 , Reply# 28   12/7/2012 at 15:13 (4,129 days old) by applianceguy47 ()   |   | |
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My parents have a Superba 22 that needs new racks. Where is the best place to get those? and how much should one expect to pay? |
Post# 645281 , Reply# 30   12/9/2012 at 20:06 (4,126 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)   |   | |
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Unless the white bushing is so loose that it easily moves up to block the opening for the washarm water supply to become blocked. the brass ring is supposed to be loose so you may not have a problem at all. |
Post# 645303 , Reply# 33   12/9/2012 at 21:28 (4,126 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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Cool! I will order them as soon as I'm sure the unit is working good. |
Post# 645308 , Reply# 34   12/9/2012 at 21:40 (4,126 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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I use 2 sealing gaskets, one on each side of the tank and I snug up the locking nut by hand so as to not tear the gasket. |
Post# 645313 , Reply# 35   12/9/2012 at 21:49 (4,126 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 645314 , Reply# 36   12/9/2012 at 22:11 (4,126 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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Yeah I'm sure I will find a solution for this gasket. For the moment I don't find it on the Hobart web site part list. Are you sure it's the right number Steve? If it's the same gasket for the fill opening it seems NLA at Sears. |
Post# 645315 , Reply# 37   12/9/2012 at 22:21 (4,126 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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Ok sorry Steve I found it. |
Post# 645346 , Reply# 39   12/10/2012 at 06:13 (4,126 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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Here is what I've found, they call it a nut adapter: |
Post# 645354 , Reply# 40   12/10/2012 at 07:17 (4,126 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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To correct this remove the dispenser clean and let the area dry and paint the edge where the rust was cleaned away with a good epoxy paint and let dry. You can use the old gasket if it is one piece by coating both sides with a good gasket sealant, usually something that is 100% silicone sealant. I would NOT recommend using two gaskets, using a 2nd gasket will allow water to get to the metal edge of the door panel around the threaded nut and it will have a much harder time drying out and may really cause the door panel to rust out. KA, WP, D&M, HP, GE and many other dishwasher makers did not put a gasket on the inside for a reason, you also cannot tighten the nut properly and it may work loose and leak.
This same technique of using the silicone sealant can also be used with the old [ clean and dry ] gasket for the detergent dispenser, inlet air-gap and several other places on this DW. |
Post# 645357 , Reply# 41   12/10/2012 at 07:24 (4,126 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)   |   | |
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Sorry about the part number error.. 293014 is actually the gasket. John gives some good advice for a fix. The most important thing is making sure the area is clean and in sound condition. |
Post# 645467 , Reply# 42   12/10/2012 at 16:42 (4,125 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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I may have found a KDSM-21AC in good condition as a parts donor for the 22. Is there any major difference between both? |
Post# 645500 , Reply# 43   12/10/2012 at 18:47 (4,125 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)   |   | |
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The main difference is the addition of the quick glass cycle on the 22 but mechanically, they are nearly identical. Pumps are the same as is just about everything else save the timers and program switches. Good find. Who knows, you might like the 21 better! |
Post# 645535 , Reply# 44   12/10/2012 at 20:25 (4,125 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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According to the manual it's a Monterey. Now I have to explain to my wife that we need to get another DW. |
Post# 645537 , Reply# 45   12/10/2012 at 20:28 (4,125 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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Well, on the KA website when I clicked on KDSM-21A, I've been redirected to the kuds21m manual which is the Monterey... |
Post# 646098 , Reply# 48   12/12/2012 at 22:16 (4,123 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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I find also the the upper rack needs to be pushed hard to enter the DW. Maybe it's because I'm used to my old one. Rack was smooth. I'll see another 22 next weekend for spare parts, I will "test" the upper rack. |
Post# 646099 , Reply# 49   12/12/2012 at 22:33 (4,123 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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I don't think any of the top racks on the KA's I've had were effortless to move to and fro, but it shouldn't be a battle either. Maybe someone will offer a lubricating option that won't get washed away or impact performance.
As for the noise level, KA dishwashers of this vintage were never known for entirely quiet operation, but there are other makes that are even noisier. My guess is that your machine isn't any louder than it's supposed to be. |
Post# 646106 , Reply# 50   12/12/2012 at 22:51 (4,123 days old) by bogo (montreal)   |   | |
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Probably not you're right. Looking in the parts manual I just realize that mine doesn't have the check valve. Does it need it absolutely? |
Post# 646108 , Reply# 51   12/12/2012 at 23:27 (4,123 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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A check valve that's stuck open or is missing completely can compromise the wash action.
The Whirlpool part isn't available anymore, but there is a GE part that fits the same. If no one else can provide the GE part number, I can find it for you. I'm pretty sure I have it written down in my garage shop. |
Post# 646109 , Reply# 52   12/12/2012 at 23:28 (4,123 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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