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1966 Russian Hoovermatic |
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Post# 643944   12/4/2012 at 07:01 (4,159 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Looks an interesting machine, I like the spin deck, the moulded steel and the lid is a very different arrangement to ones we are used to seeing.
Apparently it only uses one motor for all functions, I did wonder as the angle of the empty hose had it been on one of the standard models it would have shot a plume of water all over the room by the force of pump!! |
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Post# 643963 , Reply# 1   12/4/2012 at 08:54 (4,159 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Wow Mike, who knew? Thanks for tracking this down.
I wonder if the design was licensed from Hoover or if they just got a machine, took it to bits, and re-assembled it in their own way. Having searched out the vid on youtube and seen some of the others it looks like it was designed so you could was the floor with suds directlt from the machine - it looks almost guaranteed for that to happen. On the link is what I suppose is a Russian equivalent to flickr with some very interesting pictures indeed including vacuums that seem to be based on the Universal "torpedo" design and whay is almost certainly a mid 1950s Lewyt. Oh I wish I could read and understand Russian. And what about this, presumably earlier, Hoovermatic CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacbear58's LINK |
Post# 644159 , Reply# 2   12/5/2012 at 03:01 (4,158 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)   |   | |
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Hi Mike & Al,
That is a fab looking machine, liking the mint green refinements !! LOL I had a look at the other machines on that link and there is one thatr look very similar to the AEG Lavalux. How does the wash tub empty on the lower pic machine ? do you attach a hose onto the hose at the top of the wash tub ? It doesn't look like that metal arm-bit moves..how weird. Thanks for finding it thou..really good !! Keith |
Post# 644160 , Reply# 3   12/5/2012 at 03:14 (4,158 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 644161 , Reply# 4   12/5/2012 at 03:16 (4,158 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 644162 , Reply# 5   12/5/2012 at 03:20 (4,158 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Keith , yes like the AEG twinny, fascinating, and a different array of colours as wee, at first with the circular lids I thought one of them was like the Goblin!
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Post# 644163 , Reply# 6   12/5/2012 at 03:24 (4,158 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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An original, looks like a Maytag agi and tub with a launderette spinner, didnt Electrolux do a similar one?
Al, thanks for finding the link, a fascinating array of cultural appliances, great to see similar designs but slightly different. Yes I wonder if they are built under license, that Hoover twinny with wringer controls is the best I think, and also the colours. Havnt even got to the vacs yet!! CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK |
Post# 644167 , Reply# 7   12/5/2012 at 04:36 (4,158 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 644180 , Reply# 8   12/5/2012 at 07:52 (4,158 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 644213 , Reply# 9   12/5/2012 at 11:08 (4,158 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Take it from someone whose job has often demanded research on international websites:
If you fool around with Russian websites, you will end up with the very latest and trickiest viruses and Trojans - all the really new stuff that your virus protection can't catch yet. It's not a question of "if," it's a question of when - and the answer is "sooner rather than later." Russia is where much of this stuff comes from in the first place. Many Russian Web entrepreneurs have no respect for your privacy, your computer or your sanity, and if you give them any chance at all, they will prove it to you. Ask me how I know. |
Post# 644383 , Reply# 10   12/5/2012 at 23:12 (4,157 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 644395 , Reply# 11   12/6/2012 at 01:09 (4,157 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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What great machines, yes i must admit they bear a passing remeblance to ones from the west, its great to see a guy from Russia showing off his twin tub,I always had the feeling that Russian built stuff was generaly made out of box girders etc :-)
As Al says it is pity we dont speak Russian it would be good to talk to him about his home grown machines. Good timing aswell from John with his Russian washing book. A very refreshing and visually pleasing collection of machines. Thanks Mike for starting this thread Gary |
Post# 644429 , Reply# 12   12/6/2012 at 06:12 (4,157 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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A few years ago, while researching an article on the Narkomfin Building in Moscow, I found my computer acting funny. Virus check showed zip. Next day, the computer would not boot.
The computer shop found a couple dozen really nasty viruses and Trojans, one of which they had no way of clearing. The solution was a new hard drive, total system reload and putting my files back via my backup. Total cost, over $300. I'm all for international brotherhood, but I also don't need that kind of hassle. P.S.: After all that, my editor didn't use the article. That's life in the magazine biz for you. |
Post# 644470 , Reply# 13   12/6/2012 at 09:09 (4,157 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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happened to me 7 years ago at work. That time it was a customer coming in with a 3.5 floppy. I inserted the floppy and in 5 seconds the screen went black and the entire hard drive appeared to be deleted. 5,000 designs - 13 years of work I hadn't backed up gone in minutes.
Found a Russian expat up in Toronto that did recovery work. Cost $700 bucks but he was able to buy a new identical HD and physically transfer the "burnt" HD to the new electronics to retrieve the data. It was well worth the $700 bucks and now everything is backed up everynite and is also divided among two unconnected computers. He said an interesting thing to me, I had sent him the offending floppy, his comment was; this was a highly unusual virus ( for the time) in that it had wiped clean the floppy disk as well, he said only military strength viruses do that! |
Post# 644486 , Reply# 14   12/6/2012 at 09:52 (4,157 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 644516 , Reply# 15   12/6/2012 at 11:32 (4,157 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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In the first vid, I thought maybe the guy was holding the hose up by sqeeezing the machine against the sink, lodging it in there.
He's so deliberate and exact in his moves. And he hoists up the items to let most of the water fall off. Do you think more water may have shot across the machine if there had been more water in the spinner, as you say, or is this something different altogether? And you, King of Twinnies, will figure it out. It's all so interesting, Thanks for so many treats.
Love, love, love, seeing the Maytag that Brad just restored conjoined to a spinner. What a Frankenstein hybrid, Only in Russia.
Have only seen the first movie. Excited to watch the rest later. |
Post# 644553 , Reply# 16   12/6/2012 at 15:22 (4,157 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Hi Gary, fascinating to see machines form the other side of the world, I cant get over that Hoovermatic twinny with the wringer STOP controls, looks fab..still cant work out where the outlet pipe is though?
Jon, yes would love to see the Thor Rockett in action, assuming it is a Spin Washer? Al, just viewed the vacs, like the luxes and those rocket like Erres machines, the little grey compact is what I would have expected to see!! Hi Dejan, is Sibir a main established brand? or did they just badge other makes? Mickey, doesnt jetcone jon just motivate us all!!, I did see his thread, but not quite, I was searching some links on my youtube vids and came across the vids, then Al found the pictures and voila.. Nowthen, I have yet to fathom out the pipe outlet from the first video...and also if the washer and spinner use the same motor, am assuming the spinner runs off the wash motor, the wash motor spins at 1425rpm whilst the pulsator spins at 545rpm, the sound of the spinner seems slower and quieter than ours and the pump pressure seems lower - so does the spinner only spin 1400 or even less?? Thoughts anyone? |
Post# 644556 , Reply# 17   12/6/2012 at 15:50 (4,157 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 644561 , Reply# 18   12/6/2012 at 15:59 (4,157 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 644566 , Reply# 20   12/6/2012 at 16:09 (4,156 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)   |   | |
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last video Mike, well if you forget to connect that drain hose, you've flooded the floor but at least the ceilings safe, unlike the 3301l. Mathew |
Post# 644568 , Reply# 21   12/6/2012 at 16:16 (4,156 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 644569 , Reply# 22   12/6/2012 at 16:21 (4,156 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 644905 , Reply# 23   12/8/2012 at 04:53 (4,155 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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One thing is that thay look very sturdy machines as you would expect, even the 2 dial Hoovermatic looks "sturdier" than the ones here - must be those graphics as Jon says..
Mathew, now that Hoover would be a find if indeed it did work like you explained,the spinner seems much slower to me, so 1400rpm off the washer motor would make sense and also the switch configurations, that must indeed be the prize of all twinnys to see one working, you can see where the models cross over with shells from newer models and controls from earlier units. the top one looks like it has a 3301 cabinet, how cool is that outlet pipe and yes no more flooded ceilings!! |
Post# 644907 , Reply# 24   12/8/2012 at 05:04 (4,155 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 644908 , Reply# 25   12/8/2012 at 05:05 (4,155 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 644909 , Reply# 26   12/8/2012 at 05:07 (4,155 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 644910 , Reply# 27   12/8/2012 at 05:07 (4,155 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 644912 , Reply# 28   12/8/2012 at 05:19 (4,155 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 644916 , Reply# 29   12/8/2012 at 05:58 (4,155 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Morning :)
You have to know that quite all of the Soviet brands were "geographical" names. Like for example some appliances brands: "Vyatka" washing machines (name of a river), "Minsk" refrigerators (name of a city), "Moskva" refrigerators (name of a city), "Saratov" refrigerators (name of a city), "Dnepr" vacuums (name of a river), "Riga" washing machines (name of a city) ... and so on. "Čajka" vacuums (seagull) This one is a bird, not a geographical name. "Evrika" was also a well known brand of washing machines along with "Vyatka" in the Soviet union. But this one is not a geographical name but the legendary exclamation of Archimed (Eureka). :) Ingemar |
Post# 644917 , Reply# 30   12/8/2012 at 06:00 (4,155 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 644918 , Reply# 31   12/8/2012 at 06:02 (4,155 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Here it is another geographical name, for a washing machine.
VOLGA - like the river Volga. CLICK HERE TO GO TO gorenje's LINK |
Post# 644919 , Reply# 32   12/8/2012 at 06:07 (4,155 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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So "SIBIR" is one of the many brands popular in Soviet Union.
The one on the pictures was made under licence of Hoover, but the you can see on the video is a national design. VYATKA washers under licence of the Italian ARISTON. CLICK HERE TO GO TO gorenje's LINK |
Post# 644924 , Reply# 33   12/8/2012 at 07:15 (4,155 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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This is the great thing about this site - the knowlege that is shared and gained here!!
Hi Ingemar, thank you for the info, didnt know that about the naming of appliances, the Vyatka Ariston twintub video is fun, loved the Hitchcock music, I was wanting to see what the inside of the washer was, Do you know if its an impellar or agitator? |
Post# 644995 , Reply# 34   12/8/2012 at 10:58 (4,155 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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Post# 644997 , Reply# 35   12/8/2012 at 11:06 (4,155 days old) by gorenje (Slovenia)   |   | |
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And here it is the Vyatka (Ariston)
Maybe you have already seen this video. CLICK HERE TO GO TO gorenje's LINK |
Post# 645011 , Reply# 36   12/8/2012 at 12:11 (4,155 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)   |   | |
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