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Thread Number: 44144
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| Post# 648926 12/25/2012 at 01:14 (4,133 days old) by zippyjet (Baltimore) | ||
I'm looking to buy a new dishwasher and want to go with Kitchenaid. Checking their website, I noticed their premium models have abandoned the venerable 4 way wash arm
(hydro sweep) and instead are going with the 2 arm S shape found in lower priced models from Whirlpool and Kenmore. Whereas the lower priced Kitchenaid machines continue to use the 4 way Hydro Sweep Wash Arm. Can anyone explain this change? Why buy a Kitchenaid with a Whirlpool wash system. I thought the 4 way Hydro Sweep was the best in the industry. Simon シ 
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| Post# 648928 , Reply# 1 12/25/2012 at 01:22 (4,133 days old) by zippyjet (Baltimore) | ||
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Two Way S Wash Arm | ||
Post# 648929 , Reply# 2 12/25/2012 at 01:47 (4,133 days old) by appnut  (TX) |
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 The 4-way hydrosweep models still have a soft food disposer in them. The new ultu High Efficiency design doesn't send out enough water volume to support 4 arms. The new design also has a filter. KitchenAid is now where near anything like it was. It's just a brand name with an empty shell that has a wonderful, terrific history of quality from when they were made by Hobart. I'd go look at Maytags that still have the soft food sisposer and SS interior. | ||
| Post# 648933 , Reply# 3 12/25/2012 at 02:38 (4,133 days old) by rockland1 () | ||
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I have a KitchenAid with the S shaped arm and a filter. Works like a charm....very quiet too! | ||
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Post# 648959 , Reply# 4 12/25/2012 at 09:39 (4,133 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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The HydroSweep set-up uses more water thus can't be HE... Dw.info gives it top scores, though:
CLICK HERE TO GO TO logixx's LINK | ||
| Post# 649093 , Reply# 5 12/26/2012 at 04:30 (4,132 days old) by - () | ||
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Post# 649101 , Reply# 6 12/26/2012 at 08:02 (4,132 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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 So far I'm happy with our new KUDE40fxwh. It's very quiet and it washes well. Only once or twice in 3 or so months have I found a tiny bit of food that required rinsing the filter and I'm not a pre rinser or scraper so where things like corn niblets left on a plate disappear to I don't know but they're gone. We use the 1 hour cycle the most (drying option is another 20 minutes) but the dishes dry quickly by popping the door open an inch anyways. I've used the turbo zone jets on the backwall a few times and they actually do work well . I thought it might be gimmicky.
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| Post# 649843 , Reply# 7 12/29/2012 at 22:44 (4,128 days old) by zippyjet (Baltimore) | ||
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Thank you for the replies
I was correct, the four way "hydrosweep wash" arm saves the day and cleans like a champ. This is a holdover from the good old days when Kitchenaid was a Hobart brand.
Whirlpool was and hopefully will stay smart and retain this system. OK so it consumes more energy but, the flip side being if you go with an energy saver you take a hit on cleaning performance therefore you'd tend to use a longer cycle which consumes more energy or revert to old bad habits and squander water by hand rinsing the dishes before loading them into the dishwasher. I'm all for energy consumption and being kinder to our environment but, not at the cost of the machine's main job; getting the dishes clean without having to pre rinse them. This reminds me of the low flow toilets that use less water. They tend to perform like crap and require multiple flushing to get the stuff down the drain. This consumes more water in the long run. As usual it's us the average citizen that takes it on the chin in the name of being green. May Kitchenaid keep the 4 way hydrosweep system for the long run. | ||
| Post# 650666 , Reply# 8 1/2/2013 at 18:46 (4,124 days old) by Jetawayjuan (Michigan/Phoenix) | ||
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Kitchenaid I have model kuds301xss it has a Hard Food Disposer and cleans like a dream!!! I have the model with the four wash arms. | ||
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Post# 650749 , Reply# 10 1/3/2013 at 09:08 (4,124 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Tom, I was reading that CR "report" on dishwashers just yesterday, the print version. It seems like every other month they are "rating" washers or dishwashers, this month it's both. I found it curious that they only listed 12 models, none under $650. Perhaps this is a one-page update on dishwashers, but there is no clarification. Mentioned several times were models that "didn't make our recommended list" but impossible to compare features, pricing, etc. when the mystery models aren't included.
It's funny there is no column for "Capacity" listed and no mention of this factor is made. Some of the dishwashers are clearly smaller which should affect ratings for energy, water use, etc. when compared with larger machines. CR is also placing a lot of importance on the quietness of laundry machines now, too. Interesting that their ratings of top-load "conventional" washers weren't even worth putting into a table. Treated more like a used tissue rudely left on the coffee table, they mention the Speed Queen and Whirlpool-made T/L washers almost in passing at the end of the article. Without explaining that most of these models now are hobbled by cooler temps and reduced water levels, none scored above 40 in their tests. | ||
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