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Post# 649331 , Reply# 1   12/27/2012 at 12:26 (4,108 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)   |   | |
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If it squeals during neutral drain AND spin it COULD be the pump but not necessarily.
If it only squeals during the spin it's not the pump. Could be a number of things, but my best guess would be one or both of the center post bearings are failing, most likely because a seal has failed and some water has gotten in. Eventually it will get louder and then it will come to a screeching halt, most likley also breaking the motor coupling. |
Post# 649341 , Reply# 2   12/27/2012 at 13:31 (4,108 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 649346 , Reply# 3   12/27/2012 at 14:38 (4,108 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)   |   | |
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No.
As the spin clutch wears it gradually stops grabbing and the spin slows down until eventually it barely spins, and then not at all. This might squeak a BIT but the spin would be severely affected. The sound he describes sounds like metal on metal. The clutch pads are plastic riding on steel. They are about a 1/4" thick. By the time they would be worn through enough to be steel on steel the machine would have gone through a long period of barely spinning, if at all. |
Post# 649351 , Reply# 5   12/27/2012 at 15:07 (4,108 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)   |   | |
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Post# 649362 , Reply# 6   12/27/2012 at 16:05 (4,108 days old) by supersurgilator (Indiana)   |   | |
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well it is a stacking unit with the dryer on top, any idea how to get it open? there are no screws or anything on the front, so I'm wondering if it opens like a regular machine |
Post# 649376 , Reply# 7   12/27/2012 at 17:02 (4,108 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)   |   | |
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Post# 649390 , Reply# 8   12/27/2012 at 18:16 (4,108 days old) by supersurgilator (Indiana)   |   | |
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No, the lid does not lock when it spins. Its basically like the 90's DD portables, except with the dryer on top. Any reason why the noise would only sstart on the final spin and not the first spin? |
Post# 649403 , Reply# 9   12/27/2012 at 19:03 (4,108 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)   |   | |
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Post# 649513 , Reply# 10   12/28/2012 at 11:07 (4,107 days old) by supersurgilator (Indiana)   |   | |
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I haven't gotten a chance to open it up but I think I can rule out the bearing. As soon as the motor starts, the noise starts, its not a gradual loudening and the tub picks up speed like with the bearing. |
Post# 649535 , Reply# 11   12/28/2012 at 12:49 (4,107 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)   |   | |
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We never really run into bearing issues with a DD machine. My guess is something got into the pump. The underwire from a bra is the most usual culprit that we find in these pumps. Sometimes, gak that has formed up on the outer tub comes loose and gets into the pump. Even though the gak may be soft and organic, it can create a loud whirring sound in the pump.
As with any problem/repair, it's really tough to diagnose without hearing the noise. Take my advice with a grain of salt. |
Post# 649847 , Reply# 13   12/29/2012 at 23:29 (4,106 days old) by supersurgilator (Indiana)   |   | |
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Do u think it might be possible for whatever it is to flush its way out of the pump on its own, or would it have to be opened up and inspected? Also does the pump on these machines run during agitate as well or not |
Post# 649903 , Reply# 14   12/30/2012 at 10:08 (4,105 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)   |   | |
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The pump on a DD is mounted on the backside of the motor and is held in place by 2 clips. During agitate the pump runs "backwards". That way no water is pumped out. (If you did put the drain hose down into a tub of water, however, it would pump that water into the machine during agitate and create quite a mess!).
When the motor reverses for the neutral pump-out and spin the pump is then turning the proper direction to pump water out. IF the issue were a pump issue I would expect it to make the sound whenever the machine is neutral draining or spinning. The pump is very easy to remove once you gain access to it. These pumps cannot be disassembled or repaired, but the inlet and outlet openings are quite large and, once the hoses are removed, it would be very easy to see if something was lodged in the pump. Somewhere on here in the last day or two someone posted a pic of a DD pump with a sock stuck in it! I can't find it at the moment but will keep looking. |
Post# 649906 , Reply# 15   12/30/2012 at 10:16 (4,105 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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