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Post# 652645   1/12/2013 at 09:56 (4,093 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        

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The local Zug newspaper advertised to find the OLDEST working Zug washing machine and here are the results, a 50 year old machine still in working order!!, looks a heavy beasty,




Post# 652646 , Reply# 1   1/12/2013 at 10:07 (4,093 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Pics from The Zug Museum.....

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Louis do you know if the washer above a drum or agitator washing machine??...

Post# 652654 , Reply# 2   1/12/2013 at 11:57 (4,093 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Solid

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Hello Mike they look like they are BUILT from Box Girders with a bit of style ;-) nice very nice

Post# 652665 , Reply# 3   1/12/2013 at 12:40 (4,093 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
How cool is that!

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Yeah, what does the dirty deed? Hard not to think of a pulsator in there when you see Unimatic. So big and powerful looking. Be great to see its magic.

From another forgotten thread--sorry! Yes, Mike I remember the "Wash Dogs" at Tom's Hoover 100 Party. He had the yellow, green, and brown, aka, Harvest, Avocado, & Copper. The green looked so rich and nice in Hoover's rendition, really caught my eye.

MIKE, Whatever happened to the Turquoise Visimatic that was for sale in the UK?

I think about it a lot. It was so rare and minty. Thank you, and, of course CHEERS !


Post# 652667 , Reply# 4   1/12/2013 at 12:43 (4,093 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
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Granny looks so serious in her washday get up and all the gear in her laundry room. Great fun. Thanks.

Post# 652679 , Reply# 5   1/12/2013 at 14:38 (4,093 days old) by badgerdx ()        
Very cool.

The middle machine resembles an Apex a bit, doesn't it? Are there vids of any vintage ZUGs doing the deed?

Post# 652705 , Reply# 6   1/12/2013 at 16:51 (4,093 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Ughhhhh

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absolutely gawgeous!

We HAVE 220 over here! Send one over!!!


Post# 652837 , Reply# 7   1/13/2013 at 02:13 (4,093 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Mike

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Having a better look at the picture I see this is not the first fully autoatic H-axis toploader. That is the one on the right in your picture. The one in the middle is similar (also H-axis) but semi-automatic. You needed to set the controls for every action you wanted.

Only the machine on the left has an agitator.

I have to disappoint you Jon, the two biggies need 380V!

I will have to search for some more pictures, I have them somewhere. Unfortunately my Webshots album has gone.





Post# 652842 , Reply# 8   1/13/2013 at 03:32 (4,093 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
V-Zug Unimatic

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Later version but think this puts things into perspective.


Yeah, they would need 380v of heating power to get cold to near freezing northern european water to boil wash temps quickly.



Post# 652843 , Reply# 9   1/13/2013 at 03:40 (4,093 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Another view:



Post# 652844 , Reply# 10   1/13/2013 at 03:43 (4,093 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
You Could Had This Model

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Again a younger version

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Post# 652845 , Reply# 11   1/13/2013 at 03:45 (4,093 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
How To Use

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Post# 652846 , Reply# 12   1/13/2013 at 03:46 (4,093 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Post# 652847 , Reply# 13   1/13/2013 at 03:49 (4,093 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Hmm, Anyone we know?

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I'm not naming any names, but..

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Post# 652848 , Reply# 14   1/13/2013 at 03:50 (4,093 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
From The Archives

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And that is all folks!

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Post# 652852 , Reply# 15   1/13/2013 at 04:11 (4,093 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Thank you Launderess! That machine for sale is the same as the one in the first picture.

The album I made on Webshots isn't there anymore, but I found the pictures I took at the museum on my computer, so here goes.

The first picture shows the early days of the Verzinkerei Zug.


Post# 652853 , Reply# 16   1/13/2013 at 04:13 (4,093 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Older laundry equipment.

Post# 652854 , Reply# 17   1/13/2013 at 04:17 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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From left to right:

Wringer washer with agitator;

First H-axis toploader, semi automatic;

First automatic H-axis toploader;

First (?) automatic frontloader;

First (?) automatic dryer;

And in front of the frontloader and the dryer their rotary ironer.


Post# 652855 , Reply# 18   1/13/2013 at 04:20 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Newer appliances.

Post# 652856 , Reply# 19   1/13/2013 at 04:21 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Wringer washer

Post# 652857 , Reply# 20   1/13/2013 at 04:23 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Money shot

Post# 652858 , Reply# 21   1/13/2013 at 04:25 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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The first Zug Unimatic. H-axis toploader, semi-automatic.

Post# 652859 , Reply# 22   1/13/2013 at 04:26 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Semi automatic

Post# 652860 , Reply# 23   1/13/2013 at 04:27 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Close up of the controls.

Post# 652862 , Reply# 24   1/13/2013 at 04:30 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Reposting this picture for the good order. This is the first full automatic Zug Unimatic H-axis toploader.

Post# 652863 , Reply# 25   1/13/2013 at 04:31 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Money shot

Post# 652864 , Reply# 26   1/13/2013 at 04:32 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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The timer!

Post# 652865 , Reply# 27   1/13/2013 at 04:34 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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The Zug Adora Diva. Where the Unimatic series was intended for communal laundry rooms, the Adora became the singel household line.

Post# 652866 , Reply# 28   1/13/2013 at 04:35 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Zug Adora Diva timer.

Post# 652867 , Reply# 29   1/13/2013 at 04:36 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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The dryer, Zug Adora Tropic

Post# 652868 , Reply# 30   1/13/2013 at 04:38 (4,092 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
120 C ='s 248 F

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If one has done the conversions correctly. Just what in blue blazes where those Swedish housewives washing at those temps? *LOL*

Post# 652869 , Reply# 31   1/13/2013 at 04:38 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Dryer control and thermometer (perhaps also temperature control?)

Post# 652870 , Reply# 32   1/13/2013 at 04:40 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Zug Adora dishwasher.

Post# 652871 , Reply# 33   1/13/2013 at 04:42 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Dishwasher controls.

Post# 652872 , Reply# 34   1/13/2013 at 04:43 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Dishwasher impeller.

Post# 652873 , Reply# 35   1/13/2013 at 04:46 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Zug Ideal, electric range, this one could already be 55cm wide. Switzerland had 55cm wide appliances for quite a while in contrary to the rest of Europe that used 60cm as a standard.

Post# 652874 , Reply# 36   1/13/2013 at 04:47 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Zug Unimatic E, electronic controls.

Post# 652875 , Reply# 37   1/13/2013 at 04:50 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Controls left side. It beats me why they had a whole line of controls for washing with and a whole line for washing without a prewash. There is a touch button for prewash too.

Post# 652876 , Reply# 38   1/13/2013 at 04:51 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Control panel right side.

Post# 652877 , Reply# 39   1/13/2013 at 04:53 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Zug Adora E dishwasher with electronic controls from the 55cm era.

Post# 652878 , Reply# 40   1/13/2013 at 04:54 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Zug Ador E control panel

Post# 652879 , Reply# 41   1/13/2013 at 04:55 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Zug Adora SL. Just in case you missed it, it's BLUE!

Post# 652880 , Reply# 42   1/13/2013 at 04:56 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Zug Adora touch controls.

Post# 652882 , Reply# 43   1/13/2013 at 04:58 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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End of a short visual tour through the V-Zug museum. Hope you liked it.

Post# 652887 , Reply# 44   1/13/2013 at 05:42 (4,092 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Nice shots Louis

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whats the "Schnell Gang" is that for rapid advance through the cycle? Love that button!

Schwingen = swing oscillate vibrate --- swing the clothes around?



Post# 652888 , Reply# 45   1/13/2013 at 05:46 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Not sure, but I think it is a quick cycle. I bet there is a rapid advance timer in that dishwasher, but because there is no window for it I guess a rapid advance function wouldn't make sense. You wouldn't be able to control what you're doing.

Post# 652889 , Reply# 46   1/13/2013 at 05:50 (4,092 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Maybe its a quick cycle

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a quick wash for tea cups.

My gawd you people are hoggish on your volts! 380V good gawd!


Post# 652890 , Reply# 47   1/13/2013 at 05:52 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
380V

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That was then. Nowadays it's 400V.

Post# 652895 , Reply# 48   1/13/2013 at 06:39 (4,092 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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IIRC 380v is three phase power

Post# 652963 , Reply# 49   1/13/2013 at 10:03 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
"IIRC 380v is three phase power"

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That is correct. IIRC the newest Unimatic draws 6000 Watts.

Post# 652968 , Reply# 50   1/13/2013 at 10:12 (4,092 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Fantastic thread and photos guys!

Nice to see a manufacturer with obvious pride in and respect for their own history. A shame that other manufacturers dont have their own museums and exhibitions (Miele excepted).

A really interesting read.
Cheers
Paul


Post# 653007 , Reply# 51   1/13/2013 at 11:24 (4,092 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
I Wonder If...

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Todays Zugs will be going in 50+ years....

Louis I hear there is a brand new Innovation and Exhibition centre now in a new purpose built Zugarama...Perhaps we should arrange a visit for members of the club!!



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Post# 653017 , Reply# 52   1/13/2013 at 12:24 (4,092 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
IT'S: "Zug Alors!" instead of "Zut"

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This is both fascinating and enlightening, like discovering the washers deep into the Black Forest, or hiding in the cottages of Grimm's Fairy Tales, the fantasy-like look and variety of these old and new machines. Thank you, Louis. I was most struck at how #23's controls--the Zug Semi--look like those on my mother's furnace. Amazing.

And those timers and dials, so unique they resist classification. What a great show!

How like a Maytag, in tub and Agitator, the Wringer model is.


Post# 653018 , Reply# 53   1/13/2013 at 12:28 (4,092 days old) by frontloaderfan (Merrimac valley, MA)        
Schwingen

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Schwingen is most likely the Swiss German equivalent of the High German "Schleudern" which is "spin" in the Anglo-Saxon tongue.

It appears the city of Zug wants to give Maria a new washer because hers uses too much electricity...lol. How sweet!


Post# 653045 , Reply# 54   1/13/2013 at 13:57 (4,092 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Not only Zug and Miele have a museum, but Schulthess seems to have one too. And that are only the nes we know about. There might be more.

I thought this thread wouldn't be complete with a picture of the modern Unimatic, the Zug Unimatic T. I noticed in the specifications that this model draws "only" 4900 Watts.



Post# 653901 , Reply# 55   1/17/2013 at 09:16 (4,088 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
take me

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take me to Zugarama!!



Post# 653905 , Reply# 56   1/17/2013 at 09:38 (4,088 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Well then, pack your accoutrements and let's go!

Post# 654926 , Reply# 57   1/21/2013 at 12:38 (4,084 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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V-Zug posted a commercial on Youtube.






Post# 654938 , Reply# 58   1/21/2013 at 13:50 (4,084 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Here's a commercial from the sixties, I guess late sixties. Typical for that period I guess.






Post# 654944 , Reply# 59   1/21/2013 at 14:07 (4,084 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Late 1960s commercial

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The ironic thing about that to me is that she is driving an Austin or Morris 1100 - a British car hardly renouned for its quality of construction. I would have expected a Volkswagen Karmann Ghia or something of the like

Al


Post# 657576 , Reply# 60   2/2/2013 at 04:59 (4,072 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
HHmmm

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Al, I thought (IMHO) that the add portrayed an english model in her car either visiting or going to live over in Zug and seeing the new appliances.....or have I had one to many...Lol

And now we can add the latest Adora to the line up...


Post# 657797 , Reply# 61   2/3/2013 at 08:07 (4,071 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
That 60's

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commercial is one weird commercial. Typical of the period, abstract was supposed to grab your attention. It didn't last.

Nice machines though.


Post# 658144 , Reply# 62   2/5/2013 at 02:50 (4,070 days old) by MikeKLOndon (London)        
120C ???

HI I see on the early machines they seemed to be able to heat water to 120C how is that possible are they Pressurized or is it something to do with the altitude in the Alps. Or am I miss reading something

Post# 658146 , Reply# 63   2/5/2013 at 04:09 (4,070 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Adora

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Hi Mike, I think it would be a "continuous boiling action" you wouldnt want to touch that water, perfect for washing your floors though!!

Post# 658147 , Reply# 64   2/5/2013 at 04:18 (4,069 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Picture #23 shows a machine with a heater that can be turned on or off. There is no thermostat. The meter that goes to 120*C is a thermometer. Those meters don't stop at 100*C, that's all.

Post# 658153 , Reply# 65   2/5/2013 at 05:49 (4,069 days old) by fido ()        

Yes, it is just a safety margin so you don't damage the gauge at maximum temperature. Just like your car won't usually ever reach the maximum figure on the speedo dial. The exception to that was my old Reliant Regal 3 wheeler. The speedometer on that went to 80 mph but it was still accelerating at that speed!

Post# 658164 , Reply# 66   2/5/2013 at 06:44 (4,069 days old) by MikeKLOndon (London)        
Thanks

Many Thanks Its clear now

Post# 660747 , Reply# 67   2/17/2013 at 05:21 (4,057 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Thermometer

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Oh, right that makes sense, all those dials and gauges!!,



Post# 660752 , Reply# 68   2/17/2013 at 06:31 (4,057 days old) by DaveTranter (Central England)        
Fido...

At risk of being EXTREMELY 'off-topic'.....

I, too, once had a Reliant Regal three-wheeler.. (van).... If you ever got yours up to anywhere NEAR 80mph, I can only say that you are a braver man than I!! 50mph was more than enough for my nerves (and ears, for that matter).... ;)

Saying that, I was driving on U.K. roads, which I believe are notorious for their poor standard of maintenance.

Such memories... ;)

All best

Dave T


Post# 663725 , Reply# 69   3/4/2013 at 01:17 (4,043 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Dishwashers

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Anyone used the older Zug dishwashers?

Post# 664362 , Reply# 70   3/7/2013 at 13:02 (4,039 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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It's unusual to see a three minute commercial. The lady in the car was so relaxed and happy, but the women doing chores seemed so stressed and belabored.

The new Zug control display looks just like a Youtube screen does when the squares of next-ups appear after the washer vid is over. How neat!

Oh, how I want to be global, and live to the day when we can teleport ourselves to each other's countries and homes.


Post# 666274 , Reply# 71   3/16/2013 at 13:30 (4,030 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Teleport Indeed Mike

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All the way to Zugarama with all of us in tow!!

Post# 666289 , Reply# 72   3/16/2013 at 14:21 (4,030 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
"...this model draws "only" 4900 Watts."

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One assumes given the climate for much of the year thus the temperature of tap water those V-Zug washers need every bit of that power to bring things up to temp quickly. Are these cold fill machines?



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Post# 666294 , Reply# 73   3/16/2013 at 14:33 (4,030 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Zug

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Hi Laundress, yes the new models are cold fill, not sure if the very first models where, que Louis for that, and they offer the combination programmes for all the different detergent options, soap, synthetic, bio etc...


Post# 666296 , Reply# 74   3/16/2013 at 14:35 (4,030 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Soaps...By Zug

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Post# 666297 , Reply# 75   3/16/2013 at 14:50 (4,030 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Cold Fill Washers

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Don't own one personally but friends who do have a love hate relationship with them.

Apparently some such machines don't like it when "cold" water is too "hot" and either get confused or simply shut down and display an error code. IIRC what some wanted to do was start with warm water and go to hot or even hot to boiling to save some time.

Wonder how many V-Zug users do "soap washes" and what that cycle entails.


Post# 666435 , Reply# 76   3/17/2013 at 09:15 (4,029 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Cold fill only

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Yes, the older machines were cold fill only too.


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