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Thread Number: 44499
Any readily-available front loaders that use their internal heaters? |
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Post# 653570 , Reply# 2 1/15/2013 at 17:01 (4,112 days old) by logixx  (Germany) |
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If you believe washerdryerinfo.com, the Whirlpool and Maytag washers seem to actually use warm water for washing clothes:
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Post# 653595 , Reply# 3 1/15/2013 at 18:14 (4,112 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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 My Whirlpool WFW97 (comparable to Maytag Maxima 9000 & Maxima 7000) default with heater supplement on Allergen, Whitest Whites, and Heavy Duty. Deep Clean (or Stain Treat) option will start wash cycle with filling up with warm and then gradually heating water to hot or sanitary (155 degrees F) on the above-mentioned cycles as wellas Normal/Casual and Bulky Items. My machine even has special unique cycles for certain types of loads. A couple of these even allow the deep clean/stain treat option, one of which is a cotton active wear cycle which tumbles on low speed (delicate) and heats the water. You can also set wash temp to warm and still use stain treat/deep clean option to add additional wash time and make sure water is heated to 100 to 105. And washer111 you have amisconception about not needing a supplemental water heating device in these washers because of our hot water tanks. These machines use so little water compared to top loaders that water still needs suypplemental heating.
I looked at both Whirlpool's & Maytag's web sites. List price of $1099 will give you deep clean or sanitize options or features. Retail prices for those models will probably be less than $1099 and closer to the upper end of your price range. Both Maytag and Whirlpool have models at $1099 list with the steam clean or deep clean option. This gives you the flexibility similar to what my model offers as I mentioned above. And don't forget to look at the downloadable use & care manuals. This post was last edited 01/15/2013 at 19:32 | ||
| Post# 655597 , Reply# 5 1/24/2013 at 15:16 (4,103 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania) | ||
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Washer 111 A problem here is the USA is that even if your water heater is set to 140F many new washer models will mix cold water with hot water on the "HOT setting" so that the hot wash you get is around 110F or less. I guess the only way to get 120-130F wash water is it manually dump it into the machine by a bucket.....Sad. | ||
| Post# 655610 , Reply# 6 1/24/2013 at 17:16 (4,103 days old) by hhsuds (Canada) | ||
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Maybe this GE? Seems to have an internal heater for more than just sanitize. CLICK HERE TO GO TO hhsuds's LINK | ||
| Post# 655621 , Reply# 7 1/24/2013 at 19:11 (4,103 days old) by washer111 () | ||
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Jerrod6 Could you just barely open the cold tap, or would newer machines compensate for this? | ||
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Post# 655762 , Reply# 10 1/25/2013 at 11:48 (4,102 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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You Dont Need
A laptop, PC or other, just go vintage with a soldering iron, worked a charm after - I programmed it to "Turn to 30d" still not sure if Uni`s noticed...ha ha..!!
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Post# 657748 , Reply# 13 2/2/2013 at 20:50 (4,093 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Cannot Be Sure
But IIRC the USDOE tightened energy use regulations to add something about machines being designed so consumers couldn't defeat certain restrictions. Which one can understand from their point of view. What would be the point of selling machines that in theory were supposed to save energy when consumers would get them home and rejig things.
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| Post# 657823 , Reply# 14 2/3/2013 at 10:01 (4,093 days old) by JeffG () | ||
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Can you cite something more specific? The Energy Star program is completely voluntary, so is compliance (see second paragraph at link). So our government doesn't know or care what people do to/with their appliances. CLICK HERE TO GO TO JeffG's LINK | ||
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Post# 657910 , Reply# 15 2/3/2013 at 18:20 (4,093 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Might Have The Wrong End Of The Stick, But....
11. Anti-Circumvention
EPCA requires that test procedures be reasonably designed to produce test results which measure energy efficiency, energy use, water use or estimated annual operating cost of a covered product during a representative average use cycle or period of use, as determined by the Secretary. 42 U.S.C. 6293(b)(3). This statutory requirement may be undermined if products are purposefully designed to use controls or features that produce test results that are so unrepresentative of a product's actual energy or water consumption as to provide materially inaccurate comparative data. The Joint Comment stated that DOE should ensure that the test procedure is not vulnerable to circumvention and should prohibit any mode or other operating function that is designed solely or primarily to reduce energy and water consumption during testing. According to the Joint Comment, sophisticated and inexpensive electronic controls may detect the DOE testing conditions and minimize energy and water use under those specific conditions. The Joint Comment described as an illustrative example a clothes washer with adaptive fill control that could be programmed to minimize the fill level when it measured a clothes load size at exactly the weight of the average DOE test load for that capacity machine. (Joint Comment, No. 15 at p. 3) DOE considered issues of circumvention in its clothes washer test procedure rulemaking. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK | ||
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Post# 657911 , Reply# 16 2/3/2013 at 18:22 (4,093 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Energy Star | ||
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Post# 657965 , Reply# 18 2/4/2013 at 03:31 (4,092 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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You Don't Need To Purchase Asko W&D As A Set
Asko even states in owner's manuals for it's washing machines that if one does not use their dryer the plug must be changed.
The only thing one must do is replace the Asko plug with the proper three or four wire 208v-240v at whatever amps. Asko would love to sell only sets, but many persons don't need or want a matching dryer when shopping for a washer. Indeed one assumes one reason behind Asko's washer plug "thing" is to move dryers which often do not sell as well as washing machines. | ||
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