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Thread Number: 44521
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| Post# 653780 1/16/2013 at 17:03 (4,110 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia) | ||
Hi all!
I recently moved to a new place and decided to treat myself to a new set of laundry appliances - after exhaustive research (that is actually how I found this site) I decided on the attached AEG Protex Washer and Dryer. As space was limited in the kitchen I decided to install them in on of the 2 hall closets and it seems to have worked out really well. I did buy the stacking kit however as the washer which is heavy (82kg) is standing on a wooden floor there was still too much wobble for my liking (despite some reinforcement). I thus installed a shelf for the dryer which has made moving the items in and out for maintenance etc. a lot easier, and still use the stacking kit shelf. Sofar the the washer is exceptionally quiet and seems to be a master at balancing virtually any load, something which my previous LG 8KG seemed to have hassles with fairly often, there were some load combo's that one knew would just not work, I tried the 3 most troublesome loads first on the new AEG and not even a whimper! She just seems to get on with it! I am so impressed. Dryer is good too - nice big drum for items to fall around nicely. Anyone have any experience with these of have any questions please feel free to ask :) B 
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Post# 653783 , Reply# 1 1/16/2013 at 17:19 (4,110 days old) by ozzie908  (Lincoln UK) |
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Very nice ! | ||
| Post# 653807 , Reply# 2 1/16/2013 at 19:12 (4,110 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia) | ||
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Thank You... | ||
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Post# 653860 , Reply# 3 1/17/2013 at 01:39 (4,109 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Clever use of a cupboard ! | ||
| Post# 653926 , Reply# 5 1/17/2013 at 13:13 (4,109 days old) by splittub (Europe) | ||
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The AEG Protex range sure looks great. Only problem is that these washers have sealed outer tubs, something one wouldn't normally expect from TOL washers. | ||
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Post# 654122 , Reply# 7 1/18/2013 at 08:21 (4,108 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 654231 , Reply# 8 1/18/2013 at 16:13 (4,108 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
Steve. | ||
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Post# 654356 , Reply# 9 1/18/2013 at 22:30 (4,108 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Nice set! | ||
| Post# 654438 , Reply# 10 1/19/2013 at 08:31 (4,107 days old) by chris74 () | ||
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What does Protex mean? Aren't they Elux machines? I think the AEG is the only dryer to dry woolens, the other brands offer just something to finish it, our BOSCH does that in three minutes time which is therefore a totally useless programme. | ||
| Post# 654463 , Reply# 11 1/19/2013 at 10:36 (4,107 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia) | ||
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Hey :)
Thanks for all the feedback -so enjoying this
Austin - thanks, yes it was the best solution I could come up with in the absence of a utility room which is maybe just as we'll as I would be tempted add to the collection - ideally I would have like the matching washer-dryer as well giving one maximum flexibility, I found the straight through wash-dry on my previous machine handy for smaller overnight loads. Jon - I have always been a fan of AEG and am well aware of those high-water-level sensitive rinses which are fun to watch on YouTube. This washer however lacks the sensitive option but I am pleased with it's water levels which was not the case with my previous machine which I topped up with a bucket through the soap dispenser fairly often when doing down filled pillows, outerwear etc. as the "duvet" program seemed way to feeble and used Colton 60 but with manual filling otherwise left to its own devices one would have a damp item plopping about in there not doing anything useful - I need to see bit of water and a few suds! Lol. Those AEG' s as per your profile pic were the first one's I came into contact with many years ago - I liked the chunky purposeful buttons and they were well regarded in South Africa where I am from originally being the appliance of choice in all the posh people's home's so I kind of equated them to owning a BMW or similar and something to aspire to. Splittub - ah well what can one do, having taken the sealed tub into consideration vs price vs 5 year warranty vs machine specs (I was only educated about this tab situation with your and other's posts re this) i still decided it was worth it, to be honest, for the brilliant results and money I paid I would be happy with 5 years service and curious to see what new technology is available in 5 years time. Steve!!! So pleased you commented - it is due to YOUR thread that I stumbled upon via google search that tipped the scale in the AEG's direction, before that I was dead set on going Miele or Siemens only, 2 things that made my eyes wander to other manufacturers were the solid doors on the Miele dryer ( I need/like to see what's happening inside!) and the lack of a steam function on the Siemens although their current TOL washer and dryer are very nice looking and I was quite intrigued by the I-dos automatic dosing feature - however I do prefer powder detergent. I kept clicking on the AEG on the John Lewis website as they are attractive and seemed to have everything I wanted. The price , 5 year warranty, cash back promotion (£150 on the 2) and chiefly your comments on sounds levels and lack of distribution hassles sealed the deal -so once again thank you very much! Have you seen the variable comments on customer feedback tho on the JL site? I wonder what the hassle is -user error?! Would be great to swop more notes with you :) Ronhic - drying times times for my weekly loads of: bedlinen (super king flat and fitted sheet and 2 pillowcases around 1 hour 15 mins) towels (2 bath towels, 6 hand/guest towels, 1bath sheet and 8 facecloths 1 hour 30 mins, also approx same for a 4 kg mixed load of synthetics - all spun at 1200) I do select the maximum drying program as i like to pack things away straight out of the dryer, both cotton and synthetic program's have a iron dry, cupboard dry or extra dry setting and on top of this there is a "drying +" option on the touch display one can select with an extra 2 increases in dryness (hope that makes sense!?) I select one dry+ for the synthetics and 2 x dry+ for the cottons which seems to get things soft and just nicely dry. Logixx - thanks I am really pleased with them! Yes this does the faster drum rotation for woollen items to avoid too much friction resulting in those annoying little bobbles! It pins the items lightly to the drum (somehow managing to distribute them just right -amazing) and then stops every so often to reshuffle the time as to get the dry all round, I recently dried two down filled outerwear jackets which worked a treat Phew! How's that for a posting! Time to kill with miserable lengthy commuting hassles to work allowed plenty of blabbing time :) Brendon | ||
| Post# 654507 , Reply# 12 1/19/2013 at 14:39 (4,107 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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Brendon | ||
| Post# 654617 , Reply# 14 1/20/2013 at 07:31 (4,106 days old) by chris74 () | ||
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Is it a heat pump dryer? Does it offer a self-cleaning condenser as the BOSCH/Siemens dryer does? | ||
| Post# 654701 , Reply# 15 1/20/2013 at 12:56 (4,106 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia) | ||
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condenser etc
Chris - yes it is a heat pump and no it does not have a self cleaning condenser - three filters which are easily removed and cleaned ( I find my handheld Dyson very handy for this - it now lives in the closet with the appliances). Steve kindly provided pics of the various parts in his thread shoud you want to see them. I'm intrigued with the self cleaning condenser however not completely convinced (does anyone have any eperience with the Bosch/Siemens self cleaning condensors?) that it will work 100%, surely one little piece of fluff will remain and then all it's buddies will join it casuing a build up and affect the machines efficiency? I'm much happier fiddling/cleaning it myself and do so after each load (kind of out of curiosity) as to keep efficiency to a maximum.
as for the finishing program - my guess it is only a "fluff-up" function. regarding "Protex" - in my opinion it is a version for the word "protects" as the marketing information is aimed toward the machines being careful not to damage the laundry - smaller loads are washed in shorter times etc. | ||
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Post# 654716 , Reply# 16 1/20/2013 at 13:37 (4,106 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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AEG
Welcome to the club Brendon, your AEG Protex set are looking great in their own laundry, they are once smart looking set. I love the full size display and the LED red gives a good glow..
Any different programme features like say the Wool wash? We had a meet up over in Nottingham at Jons place and we all besieged John Lewis to try these out, much to the annoyance of the staff!!! Cheers, Mike | ||
| Post# 654719 , Reply# 17 1/20/2013 at 13:44 (4,106 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia) | ||
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Steve - Notes
I thought the same thing re: the light being on as I really enjoy seeing whats going on inside. It's a pity about the smokey glass 2nd door that impedes one's view - it does make the machine attractive though overall. I find the dryer noise just a tad too much - that said it is in a smooth walled cupboard which sort of echoes and sends all the sound straight out - I shut the door when the washer is going (which isn't really needed as its virtually dead quiet on the wash) but leave it open for the dryer in case it kicks in the second condensor fan for some cool air. The instructions state it needs air and thought it produces some dry heat its not enough to be any hassle. Does yours also make the little er... what shall I call them... micro rotations/blips/movements before the drum fully starts rotating? I laundered a super king 6 tog duvet today and was flabbergasted at how easily the drum swallowed it and it actually moved about getting a proper massage, once fully sodden/wet it filled the drum to what looked like about 60-70 capacity and "sensed" it was quite a large item and nicely adjusted the time for a much longer wash after it's initial estimation and approx 15mins sensing and filling stage, it's fantastic to be able to now again wash everything at home, she has no hassles washing my down and synthetic pillows either - i stood ready to do the "suicide spin rescue/reshuffle" and nearly shed a tear as she simply jiggled the 4 pillows a few times, evenly distributed them and accelerated into the 1600 spin effortlessly. This machine's ability to distribute a load properly astounds me daily, its not so much being able to handle and unbalanced load as it is the expert distribution as she varies the drum rotations to distribute the load, never the same sequence twice - so clever. The above mentioned duvet used to choke my 8kg LG (bought in 2005), I tried it twice and didn't bother as it just sat in a ball turning but not moving at all (also had to manually add water despite the shower spray and "duvet setting"), managed the interim spins but never managed the final spin, did a few balances at almost maybe 400 and needed me to pause and repack it maybe 5 times to get it to spin - drove me crazy. Which brings me to another thing I like, the door lock that releases quickly if one pauses the washer, so handy - opens up virtually immediately. the 45 seconds on the LG felt like an eternity - 3 mins if a 60C cycle was running...I have to state though that the LG gave me 7 years good service (worked hard but not abused (I often hunt for things to launder) - regular service washes and no overloading except for the duvet ...) not bad for a washer-dryer, it must have sensed it was being replaced as the power unit (I'm not too up-to-speed on the mechanical bits) gave up 1 DAY after I ordered the AEG's - coincidence!? hmm I'm not convinced. Another 2 things I noticed was that the fluff carryover from a previous load is much less than my previous appliance which must point to superior rinsing, previously a dark load (having forgotten to run a rinse in-between) after say the towels covered everything which then needed manually intervention (me with fuzz roller in hand), now the carry-over is minimal and sorted by the dryer anyway. Also have you noticed that the clockwise rotations are a little faster on the cotton programs, 17 versus 21 in the same amount of time - noticed this when doing a foamy service wash and then heard the scoops/paddles hitting the foam (ploomf-ploomf) as the drum turned at different frequencies...am I sad for having noticed such a small thing?! *blushes*
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| Post# 654725 , Reply# 18 1/20/2013 at 14:23 (4,106 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia) | ||
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hey Mike
Thank you very much, I do stand and admire them fairly regularly, I really like the look of them. The Logicontrol display is lovely with all its options/symbols and wash stage info, has certainly got the wow factor for me. I do touch and wipe with a soft cloth afterwards though as I do not like fingerprints on the touch sensitive display - "what was that? did someone say OCD....." It's great to talk to people who are actually interested in the same things! My work colleagues/friends/family etc do tolerate me - but only just! lol. I can only imagine the poor staff at John Lewis with you lot storming in there - I do like to test the staff's knowledge and catch them out regularly - in a nice way though, I would love to work in the appliance dept of JL but there are none closeby.
I'm not 100% sure about your extra features question - would you mind elaborating?, I have used the woolwash which had a nice water lever but seemed a bit feeble with a lot of soaking and very little agitation - so switched it to the delicates program. I have also successfully used the steam refresh program which drops wrinkles out of my outerwear (down filled jacket) and suits. Do not use the quickwash - as I am dubious about the results - whats the point of simply wetting the laundry? It is a waste in my opinion and lulls the general public into a false sense of security having them think their laundry has been washed when in fact it's just adding more detergent etc. to the clothes which might make them smell clean but thats about it - then again that is only my opinion, I could be wrong. One of my colleagues recently approached me at work asking for washer and dryer purchasing advice which resulted in a verbal explosion of information and questions which made him glaze over almost instantly, he said he would check with his brother (whom he bought the apartment with) what their budget was, they came back to me with a budget of £400 for purchase of a washer and dryer - I simply stated I couldn't help (they were astounded at what paid for my AEG's which I oddly enough thought was rather reasonable given their dashing good looks etc - lol) them as I could the bear the thought of a cheap laundry appliance noisily bouncing all over the place with mediocre washing results - ugh...good luck to them, being young single lads they will probably do little laundry anyway - their bedlinen will probably eventually walk to the washer by itself! :) Brendon | ||
| Post# 654727 , Reply# 19 1/20/2013 at 14:38 (4,106 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
Welcome Brendon
fab set there!
I was looking at these in Currys only this morning with wishful thinking - perhaps if the vintage game gives up at some point. Im really unsure what I'd have if faced with buying something new these days. Love the laundry set up, I had something similar in my old house but a complete PITA when swapping out machines although it was a massive bonus the boiler was in the corner meaning I got near enough a complete hot fill when doing hot washes. Protex? I had assumed it would be a mix of Proffesional and Textile regarding their management of both elements but Protection does seem a good train of thought too. All in a name eh? happy laundering Rob | ||
| Post# 654739 , Reply# 20 1/20/2013 at 15:52 (4,106 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia) | ||
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Hey Rob
Thanks for the warm welcome!
LOL re:PITA getting them in closet - totally agreed - had a good lot of expletives flying around here whilst doing that. The beast of a washer (82kg) has these rubber strip sound barriers that attach to the bottom 4 sides of the machine meaning it cannot be pushed across the floor as it basically has rubber brakes on! Had to place it on a bath sheet which I flipped up and over the back and top and then slid the machine in place - then inched the bath sheet out by leaning it from side-to-side - would have made a great home-movie-show video. Converted the dryer to drain away the water and had to squeeze myself up into the cupboard lying on my chest on top of the dryer dangling the pipe and trying to "drop" it into the installed drainpipe like some sort of carnival game - v-frustrating - funny now - PITA then! Rob - all those washers mentioned in you profile - are they actually plumbed in and up an running?! - if so where do you house them all?? | ||
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Post# 654872 , Reply# 21 1/21/2013 at 04:10 (4,105 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Programmes
Hi Brendan, was wondering if this particular machines used any different drum movements, some wool washes pin the clothes to the drum, (think slow spin) whilst others use rocking motions etc...
Understand what you mean on the "quickwash" option but some can be quite deceiving, the Zug machines had a "SPORT" buttons , now to look you would think gym gear, light quick wash, but this was actually the reduced time option, I used that a lot, I would select normal wash, temperature and spin then press sport to reduce the time, rather like the Maytag Askos, you could do a decent 95d hot wash with 4 rinses and 1600rpm spin in just less than an hour. Know what you mean about the fingerprints, you need one of those glasses cleaning cloths fixed to the side on a pull string...!! | ||
| Post# 654874 , Reply# 22 1/21/2013 at 04:21 (4,105 days old) by chris74 () | ||
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Protex If you see the Latin origin it might just be "pro"+"textiles" so it simply means "for the clothes"... | ||
| Post# 654917 , Reply# 23 1/21/2013 at 11:44 (4,105 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia) | ||
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Hey
Chris - that sounds very credible as well - nicely researched! :)
Mike - the wool wash just does slow regular tumbles. On the dryer however it does pin them lightly to the drum. Shortening the wash, do you think it has enough time to heat up to the the selected temp? I am currently on the lookout for thermometer of sorts to check the water temperatures on the various cycles as I am not convinced the reduced cycles get anywhere near the indicated temp. I like your cloth-on-a-string idea :) | ||
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Post# 655971 , Reply# 24 1/26/2013 at 09:49 (4,100 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Short wash...
Hi Brendan, yes in the asko and zug machines the "Short, Sports or Reduced Time" does still heat to selected temp, have checked the water out of the drain hose, had the hose to the side of the washer so used it to fill the mop bucket for the slate floors etc,
I cant believe the prices of dryers these days, glad to know they are putting more features on the for the bang!! 
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| Post# 656033 , Reply# 25 1/26/2013 at 13:59 (4,100 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia) | ||
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| Post# 656237 , Reply# 27 1/27/2013 at 11:26 (4,099 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
New machines
Hello Brendon
Welcome here it is very much a "speak easy" for washing machine and appliance addicts, so enjoy it I must say the two very smart and solid looking machines with there (very welcome) understated styling actually give me hope that some modern machines can actually deliver the goods so to speak, most i find are just compensating with gadgets and gizmos for there mediocre performance and build qaulity. And from what you say these AEG machines are certainly out of that league I wish you well with them Gary | ||
| Post# 656316 , Reply# 28 1/27/2013 at 16:24 (4,099 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia) | ||
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Donprohel - that's exactly the same conclusion I came to, thanks for the info
Gary/electron1100. Thanks so much for the welcome, I'm currently glued to the site (similar to kid in candy store) getting up to speed on all the lingo and feeling a sort of warm glow of acceptance/ fitting-in knowing there are others out there like me asking and answering questions concerning issues I thought were particular to me only! Really enjoying it and there seem to be some really great people on here. As for the AEG's although I cannot speak for the longevity I cannot fault them in any way and this with HEAVY scrutiny as I am experimenting to see how the laundry emerges from them, I still gawp at how effortlessly the washer silently speeds through the wash programs making it look all to easy.... Thrilled :) B | ||
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Post# 656658 , Reply# 29 1/28/2013 at 23:21 (4,098 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Model LG did you have Brendan? and did you have the matching dryer? Have you ever had a traditional Hoover - Hotpoint - Servis machine etc? Always fun to compare what the differences are.
When I first saw the pics I was amazed at how good they looked in the wrap around display units, given how they dont have a worktop and frame so to speak, I wasnt sure how they would look without them, must admit they have grown on me!! 
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| Post# 656861 , Reply# 30 1/29/2013 at 18:26 (4,097 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia) | ||
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Hey...
My LG was the WD1411 washer-dryer combination, 8 kg wash/4kg dry. Served me really well except for hassles with spinning unbalanced items, large chunks of fluff finding their way into the shower spray nozzle which then required the top coming off to remove the feed pipe and unblock it. The entire control panel needed replacing as one button stopped working - the start/pause button. The power unit also failed the very day after I ordered the AEG's , luckily all repaired by a maintenance plan. I found the condensor drying rather hot even on the low heat settings and only used it for sturdier items like towels etc. I had this paired with a very basic vented dryer that cam along from South Africa (local company called DEFY that make fairly sturdy but basic appliances) when we moved over in 2004. Had an LG 7.2 kg "intellowasher" over there for a few years with paired with basic Maytag 10kg toplader with matching 10kg dryer, also fairly basic/ brutal but effective, the toplader liked banging the inside cabinet on unbalanced spin, something that never seemed to happen to mums speed queen which a after many years service was irrepairable so I gave her the LG front loader when moved to the UK, she loves it, it has had some fairly major repairs (my dad is very handy) but is still running after 12 years amazingly, I get my laundering-till-u-drop thing from her. I was amazed at the range of appliances in the UK, in South Africa only gets very few of the entire range, people do not seem to be too fussed about laundry as it is usually left to the domestic ladies who use whatever machine is provided (usually cheapest with largest capacity - the lg and Samsung agitator-less top loaders are popular - personally cannot stand them having used some, inferior washing ability and waste water....in my opinion tho...)
I was not even considering AEG when I started my search as I wanted german built/assembled appliances only, but they kept catching my eye on the various sites hence I started researching them. I wish my utility room looked as nice as that pic. Those models in the pic are the on step down from top of range with the narrower display and the white doors. I like the white doors and almost went for them but really liked the idea of the weight sensor in the TOL models. I could perhaps order the white door parts, checked on the AEG spares site and they were quite reasonable. I was initially going to get the washer-dryer and pair it with the heat pump dryer (washer dryer also has narrow display) but decided against that as the conventional condensor utilises too much water and electricity, I do miss being able to wash and dry in one go overnight tho....maybe I will still add it to my current 2 if I can find space! Lol | ||
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Post# 663213 , Reply# 31 3/1/2013 at 05:57 (4,066 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Post# 663367 , Reply# 32 3/1/2013 at 21:32 (4,066 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 663405 , Reply# 33 3/2/2013 at 03:59 (4,065 days old) by chris74 () | ||
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Vid The speed seems a bit high, the woolens are not tumbled but clinging to the drum... | ||
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Post# 663406 , Reply# 34 3/2/2013 at 04:00 (4,065 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Not tumbled | ||
| Post# 663407 , Reply# 35 3/2/2013 at 04:07 (4,065 days old) by chris74 () | ||
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Vid The speed seems a bit high, the woolens are not tumbled but clinging to the drum... | ||
| Post# 663408 , Reply# 36 3/2/2013 at 04:08 (4,065 days old) by chris74 () | ||
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Vid The speed seems a bit high, the woolens are not tumbled but clinging to the drum... | ||
| Post# 663409 , Reply# 37 3/2/2013 at 04:09 (4,065 days old) by chris74 () | ||
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Sorry for the doubled entries Is it so fast because of the gentle programme? | ||
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