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Post# 655783   1/25/2013 at 14:10 (4,102 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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I'm finally getting a chance to post some info about the latest addition to my collection.

I spent last weekend at the "washer spa" in Waterloo, IA as the guest of the ever-gracious Ben Swestka. Part of the purpose of this trip was to breath life back into a 1954 Maytag 101P that has been in his basement for a number of years. The cabinet had been electrostatic-ally painted a number of years ago (with original Maytag paint!) and has that slightly odd textured pattern that this can produce.

Here she is posing:




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Post# 655784 , Reply# 1   1/25/2013 at 14:19 (4,102 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Mechanically, the machine is very sound. I put a new belt on it and wrapped the pump pulley with a Kirby belt and the drive system is beautifully tight and smooth. The water valve is a problem. The original valve is in about 50 pieces in a shoebox. Ben gave me the thermostatic valve off of a 1956 140 that we were parting out but that valve is leaking and the thermostatic element seems to be stuck such that warm is only slightly-tempered cold water. For the moment I have a standard modern Maytag valve on it with the two solenoids jumpered.

Here is a glamor shot of the control console.


Post# 655787 , Reply# 2   1/25/2013 at 14:35 (4,102 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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The bigger two issues are the agitator and condition of the inner wash basket.

The current agitator is from the 140 that were parted out. The original agitator is awaiting a new spline. Removing the original agitator left the spline on the agitator shaft which then needed to be ground off (thanks again, Ben!!!) When the new spline arrives I will take it down to the farm and press it in. After that I can get to work trying to get the finicky mercury water level switch to work properly.

The inner washbasket is another story. This machine sat for many years with a half of tub of water. As a result there is a lot of rust inside the basket. I haven't had a chance to pull the basket out yet to see what the outer surface looks like. I'm trying to decide if I want to make cosmetic repairs or just hold out in the hopes that I can find an AMP wash basket in better condition. Thoughts?


Post# 655788 , Reply# 3   1/25/2013 at 14:45 (4,102 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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WOW Mark, that is VERY cool, CONGRATS!  

 

I'm sorry I don't have any suggestions for the wash basket.

 

Best of luck though and I look forward the updates!

 

Best,

Kevin


Post# 655789 , Reply# 4   1/25/2013 at 14:46 (4,102 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Here is a better picture of the problem on one side of the basket.

Post# 655790 , Reply# 5   1/25/2013 at 14:49 (4,102 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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And here is the OTHER side. Grrrrr.

I may be able to clean some of this up with Bar Keepers Friend, or maybe even (dare I say it) Ajax or Comet.

Needless to say, until I do something to address this issue, this is my go-to machine for jeans, dark towels & dirty rags!


Post# 655791 , Reply# 6   1/25/2013 at 14:54 (4,102 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Another thought that had occurred to me regarding keeping this from getting worse was to pull the basket and see what the condition of the outer surface is like. If it's bad, would a light sanding of the rusted spots and then painting over them with POR (using LOTS of blue tape to prevent it from seeping through the holes into the inner surface).

Any thoughts as to when that would be work the effort?

Here's another shot of the bottom of the tub.


Post# 655792 , Reply# 7   1/25/2013 at 15:09 (4,102 days old) by westie2 ()        

My cousins dads mother had this machine.  Brings back memories.  We had as our first washer a timed fill AMP from 1956.  With the agitaor (Gyrator) like a wringer ha d the smaller post.  Back when Maytags were the best.  I wish you good luck on getting the rust stoped and the inner tub fixed.


Post# 655796 , Reply# 8   1/25/2013 at 15:20 (4,102 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        

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love it have the same one here love it.. i used white marine epoxy on the rust spots in the tub of the one here and its still holding.. awesome find

Post# 655797 , Reply# 9   1/25/2013 at 15:23 (4,102 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Your machine would have either been a A4MP or a 121P. The only significant difference between the machines was the lighted name badge.

Post# 655800 , Reply# 10   1/25/2013 at 15:50 (4,102 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
Maytag 101P

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This is a fun machine - and it has been in the family for quite sometime now.  I believe this is the Maytag that cadman and I saw in a basement in Kansas City back in the winter of 2005.  The admirable Mr. Delp had the Maytag sent to Minnesota after it was posted for sale the next year.  Geoff then did some heavy duty cleaning, mechanical/timer work, and took care of painting the cabinet.  A few years later it found refuge in Waterloo for storage, and Mark decided to take it back up to Minnesota!  I'm glad to see the 101 back together and running.  Working on AMP Maytags is always fun and certainly different from working on BD Whirlpool or Helical 'Tag. 
 
Here's a clip I shot late in the evening after we discovered the original agitator's pin hole for the float chamber was plugged from years of water sitting in the basket.  We swapped in an agitator from another AMP. 
 

 
Ben


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Post# 655801 , Reply# 11   1/25/2013 at 15:51 (4,102 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
My Remedy....

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....For rusty surfaces is ZudŽ, a cleanser made specifically for removing rust and lime and copper stains. It comes in a can like Comet, but will remove rust and mineral stains Comet won't begin to touch. Some grocers carry it, most hardware stores too.

If you have something really bad to deal with, try one of my "miracle" remedies:

Mix Zud with Naval Jelly to a paste-like consistency. Slather it on to whatever has a problem. Let wait a while, then scrub. Very powerful, and not for use on surfaces where you think rust might be beginning to eat through metal.

One caveat: Zud is very powerful, but its abrasive is somewhat harsh. Go easy with the scrubbing and let its chemical component do as much of the work as possible. It shouldn't be a problem, because you're using it for one-time rust removal, not routine cleaning.

Congratulations on the AMP. Getting a dream machine is a great experience.


Post# 655812 , Reply# 12   1/25/2013 at 16:28 (4,102 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Here's What You're Looking For:

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Great stuff - it's a permanent part of my cleaning arsenal:

Post# 655815 , Reply# 13   1/25/2013 at 16:36 (4,102 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Good to know, Sandy! I think I'll try it 'straight" first and see how it works. If I need the naval jelly that will be round II!

Post# 655816 , Reply# 14   1/25/2013 at 16:39 (4,102 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Mark:

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That's the spirit - start easy and work your way up. Much easier to avoid damaging stuff that way.

Post# 656104 , Reply# 15   1/26/2013 at 18:34 (4,101 days old) by dnastrau (Lords Valley, PA)        
Rust remover: Evapo-Rust

I have had great results with Evapo-Rust to de-rust parts. I soaked the parts from the water valve on my Maytag A700 overnight and I was amazed to find that all of the rust and corrosion dissolved! It is an amazing product - it is not an acid; it removes rust without being corrosive or damaging to clean metal, paint, plastic or rubber. I have also used it to de-rust tools, car parts and bicycle chains.

The tough problem would be having a way to submerge the entire tub from your AMP in the solution. Once it is removed from the machine you could probably turn it on its side and submerge it section by section in a plastic tub containing the solution. It will continue to remove rust until it turns black. Doing it section by section you could probably de-rust the tub in about a week.

I have purchased Evapo-Rust in AutoZone, Advance Auto Parts and Lowes. It is a lot easier than scrubbing with abrasives (and will not damage the part like naval jelly or abrasives can.)



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