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Samsung StormWash dishwasher |
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Post# 655970   1/26/2013 at 09:44 (4,106 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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while watching PDub's video of the EcoBubble, I came across this video of Samsung's StormWash dishwasher....
it seems to have good and bad about it, I like the two power discs in the bottom, but only in the two areas of the back.....I wonder if it would do better with 4 of them, and NO center washarm, they may have to be a little bigger, but seem like it would give better coverage, and you could place pots and items anywhere, not just a certain ZONE...... I really like the silverware rack..... thoughts/opinions? CLICK HERE TO GO TO Yogitunes's LINK |
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Post# 656018 , Reply# 1   1/26/2013 at 13:16 (4,106 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)   |   | |
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Fun link! I like those pot scrubber zones, wouldn't mind testing them out, I wonder if the water is alternated between the main wash arm and these pot scrubber as to improve the pressure?
I only occasionally place saucepans in my dishwasher as they normally need manual intervention anyhow, but if I have only one I place it in the centre of the bottom rack where it receives constant spray and does a better job than anywhere else in the rack. Having 4 of those as opposed to the traditional wash arm where they are used one at a time for a good hard spray whilst the water is soaking the others whilst not receiving spray sounds like a very effective idea. I have often thought four smaller spray arms would give better coverage than one, the slimline Siemens dishwashers (45cm wide) have done this for their upper racks now. :) |
Post# 656039 , Reply# 2   1/26/2013 at 14:13 (4,106 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 656041 , Reply# 3   1/26/2013 at 14:25 (4,106 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 656050 , Reply# 4   1/26/2013 at 14:56 (4,106 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 656079 , Reply# 5   1/26/2013 at 16:41 (4,106 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Those extra wash areas would be as useless as GEs Silver Shower was on their 1960s DWs, it is washing an area that is already being washed, it would make absolutely NO difference unless of coerce it was doing a poor job every where else, LOL.
Those top racks for the silverware I find useless unless you do not ever let your SW touch each other even in the drawer when stored. I cannot not imagine having the time or being so anal that I would load ONE spoon at a time and sort and line them all up , LOL.
Cool Video though. |
Post# 656198 , Reply# 6   1/27/2013 at 07:34 (4,105 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 656209 , Reply# 7   1/27/2013 at 08:41 (4,105 days old) by william637 (Damp pants? Not a chance. )   |   | |
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My husband as a Miele dishwasher in his guest house (bought it as a present for me to play with). I love the third rack for silverware. Despite what you might think, it is not time consuming to load at all. And, you never have to worry about forks and spoons nesting. The Miele has a deciated full size wash arm for that rack. I didn't notice that on the Samsung. If if doesn't have the dedicated wash arm, I would question the results you might get. Kitchenaid dishwashers also have that third rack on some of their models. They just have the small spinner rinse assembly on the top so I just took that rack to be more a gimmick than anything else.
That video showed the storm wash dics operating singulary without the main spray arm, and then singularly with the main spray arm. I am wondering what happens when the spray arm has stopped and is blocking the flow of the storm wash? My guess is a spary arm with a really clean underside. |
Post# 656214 , Reply# 8   1/27/2013 at 09:01 (4,105 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Man, Samsung is really making an effort to pull an LG: Swoop in seemingly out of nowhere to grab a larger share of the American market. Many new, highly-rated products; saturation advertising; expansion of dealers/retailers. The local Frigidaire/Maytag dealer is currently being courted by a Samsung rep. He's resisting, so far, claiming he wants to stick with US companies. He's choosing to overlook Electrolux, apparently. He's been selling Frigidaire for decades and probably still sees it as the offshoot of an American company.
Back to the dishwasher: The cutlery rack may have a downward-spraying arm built into the top of the tub, as does my LG. I really like using the cutlery rack as it opens up real estate in the bottom rack. It isn't as fussy to load as you might think; after all, you put all the other items in the machine one-at-a-time, right? You save time at the end of the cycle when you can grab a handful of forks or spoons and drop them into your silverware drawer. John, I now have a very comical mental picture of you opening your dishwasher, dumping an armload of dishes into each rack, muttering "Screw it!" and pressing start, LOL. This post was last edited 01/27/2013 at 09:21 |
Post# 656318 , Reply# 9   1/27/2013 at 16:42 (4,105 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)   |   | |
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Lol...re : spray arm with a really clean underside! That is however a very good question. I wish dishwashers had glass doors so one could see into them. I love the glass box demo washers at the appliance stores - how many times can on press the demo/run button before being chased out !?
I could never go back to a traditional cutlery basket - all that cutlery touching all over the place *shudders* B :) |
Post# 656324 , Reply# 10   1/27/2013 at 17:15 (4,105 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Eugene sorry to ruin your image of me loading DWs, but I am a very careful and good loader of DWs, people are often amazed at how much I get in a DW and are also amazed how clean everything comes out.
BUT I draw the line loading ONE spoon at a time, LOL, maybe if you have really good sterling silver where you never let it touch other pieces it could be useful [ you can also get regular SW baskets that allow you to load one piece at a time ] and they are in the lower rack where they get much better pressure. But I guess that I am really spoiled with my WP DWs with the basket in the door, IMEO this is absolutely the best design ever in any home DW ever built for fast loading and keeping them out of the way so the maximum dishes can be loaded in both racks. I even hate loading SW in my KDSS-20 because you can only put a few in the holder at a time, with the WP you can easily load 10 pieces at a time.
Life is too short to load one piece at a time and as for the worry of touching a spoon with your fingers, get over it and wash your hands LOL. |
Post# 656470 , Reply# 11   1/28/2013 at 07:44 (4,104 days old) by chris74 ()   |   | |
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I think this is a better solution than placing things slanting towards the back wall like in my Bauknecht (Whirlpool) dishwasher. AFAIK, Samsung does not sell any dishwashers here in Germany. |
Post# 656492 , Reply# 13   1/28/2013 at 10:42 (4,104 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Your wish is my command, Constructa must have thought in the sixties! lol
Click on the link and scroll down to the second and the third picture. You will see a Constructa dishwashers with a window in the door and four spray arms at the bottom! CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK |
Post# 656603 , Reply# 15   1/28/2013 at 19:27 (4,104 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Some interesting points [ what ever your name is ] but if a company is going to patent something they should have something worth patenting. The Storm Wash system in Samsung's new DWs with extra arms washing exactly the same area is close to the most worthless gimmick I have ever seen. I have never seen any DW that could not wash items in the lower rack where the majority of the water force is in ANY DW, and to have two arms running at the same area at the same time makes absolutely no sense. Yes WPs Turbo Zone is sort of silly but it is at least washing a flat casserole that is standing upright to save lower rack space.
As I had mentioned before GE tried this dual wash arm system back in the 1960s and even they decided that it was so worthless that the last of the DWs that GE built with the extra Silver Shower Arm were manufactured with the SS arm not even connected to water and on earlier models they had us service technicians disconnect the SS because it did no good at all and it reduced the overall performance of the DW. |
Post# 656646 , Reply# 16   1/28/2013 at 22:22 (4,104 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )   |   | |
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I was just gonna say the same thing as Jon above about the jets on the WP allowing things like lasagna pans to sit almost vertically against the backwall of the dishwasher. With this samsung version you'd be covering half of the bottom rack. I've found it actually does work a little better on my baking pans etc getting off more of that sticky PAM residue.
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Post# 656716 , Reply# 17   1/29/2013 at 08:46 (4,103 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Non-stick spray does leave a nasty residue on overspray areas that don't contact the food. I've been baking a lot of seasoned chicken breasts lately, 9"x13" or 11"x14" glass dishes, 375°F for 35 to 40 mins. First couple times I used non-stick spray, then had to deal with scrubbing the "glue" residue. I quit the non-stick spray and the dishes come out pristine. YMMV. |
Post# 656725 , Reply# 18   1/29/2013 at 09:28 (4,103 days old) by chris74 ()   |   | |
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