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Why does Cascade action pacs creat so much suds?
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Post# 656062   1/26/2013 at 15:53 (4,097 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)        

I just got these new cascade all in one action pacs. Just used it in my Hotpoint Potwasher Dishwasher. I noticed that it created ALOT of suds. None came over flowing out from the panel i was just concerned and why they make so much suds when my other Cascade products dont? I had the dishwasher on normal wash. I had to run it through 6 rinse cycles for it to all go away. It did a great job with my dishes but why did it get so sudsy?




Post# 656144 , Reply# 1   1/26/2013 at 21:45 (4,097 days old) by dustin92 (Jackson, MI)        

We use the cascade complete action pacs, and never have an issue with suds. What was in the dishwasher before you ran it? You have posted about trying to remove rust stains, maybe residue left from some cleaner? Did you pre rinse the dishes? I never pre rinse, just knock off excess food into the garbage disposal and load up.

Post# 656146 , Reply# 2   1/26/2013 at 21:51 (4,097 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Water hardness matters

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Extremely soft (I doubt from pervious posts this is the problem) could cause this though not likely. However I have had a sudsing issue with Finish rinse aid lately. Was anything prewashed with manual detergent before loading?
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Post# 656254 , Reply# 3   1/27/2013 at 13:41 (4,096 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

What were you washing? One of the disadvantages of using pre-measured packs of detergent is that you cannot control dosing; good for the manufacturer, but bad for you.

Post# 656276 , Reply# 4   1/27/2013 at 14:41 (4,096 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
JOhn gave Robert & Fred

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some Finish packs and I mentioned my experience with them but when Robert put them in his 'Visi-Dish'machines ooohboy the SUDS! They were do plentiful they softened the jets of water that usually hit the tub and make noise.

Ph00e! To tablet dosing!!



Post# 656371 , Reply# 5   1/27/2013 at 20:25 (4,096 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)        

I had liquid Cascade in before that wash. I did not pre rinse the dishes. I used the dishwasher again last night and it got pretty sudsy but i used Cascade gel.

Post# 656373 , Reply# 6   1/27/2013 at 20:26 (4,096 days old) by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan)        

We also have very hard water, but it has never EVER created that many suds before.

Post# 656469 , Reply# 7   1/28/2013 at 07:43 (4,095 days old) by washer111 ()        
My Experience

If its worth posting, is that Tablets are not designed for super strong wash action. I've found in my DishDrawer that Fairy tabs cause a ton of foam, as do dishwasher cleaning products (I cite Finish here, since I had to run at least 5 extra rinses afterwards to remove the foam. The stuff also destroyed my drain filters!)

 

You may find that your machine is underfilling ever so slightly the pump is getting enough air to whip up some froth. Try using only one detergent wash and perhaps adding some extra water into the machine before the detergent is dispensed during the Main-Wash. The issue may also be a built-in Rinse-Aid component, which I know causes frothing at lower temperaturs (Rinse Aid often foams at low temperatures, according to my DD's manual).

 

Just try using a good quality POWDERED detergent, such as Bubble Bandit, Cascade Institutional, or any detergent you prefer where you've added phosphates for "good measure." I can say phosphates and soft water may not mix here... Our dishwasher detergents still contain >30% Phosphates in most cases (Finish, Fairy, Morning Fresh, Kwit, "IGA Brand" etc.), and I'm wary of testing out "Eco" tablets, since my machine's Eco cycle doesn't give the 3 Rinses I prefer...



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