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Post# 657254   1/31/2013 at 14:06 (4,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        

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Look at that interactive colour display, just when you thought it couldnt get any better it does, looks very smart, and with Heat Pump technology, not sure how that works yet!!, we need Louis to translate...LOl




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Post# 657256 , Reply# 1   1/31/2013 at 14:09 (4,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
V-Zug Adora SLQ...New

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Presenting the V-Zug Adora SLQ WP


Post# 657261 , Reply# 2   1/31/2013 at 14:14 (4,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
And

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The Adora TSL WP Heat Pump Tumble Dryer


Post# 657263 , Reply# 3   1/31/2013 at 14:16 (4,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Adora SLQ WP

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Washing Machine Information...


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Post# 657266 , Reply# 4   1/31/2013 at 14:18 (4,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Adora TSL WP

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Tumble Dryer Information


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Post# 657273 , Reply# 5   1/31/2013 at 14:25 (4,074 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)        
Wow

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...lovely looking all crisp and neat in that bright white! Gosh need to go research them now!

Post# 657284 , Reply# 6   1/31/2013 at 14:50 (4,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
100 years of Zug - Happy Birthday...

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This is a nice look at the past with videos etc..


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Post# 657285 , Reply# 7   1/31/2013 at 14:53 (4,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Heat Pump Washing Machine

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Is This Another World First..? so it looks like no heater as we know it, or a small one...... very interesting!!


Post# 657288 , Reply# 8   1/31/2013 at 14:58 (4,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Translation...

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"The water is heated not only with a conventional heating system, but new. With an energy-saving, highly efficient heat pump Much like a heat pump for a house. Depending on the selected washing temperature is the system even without connected conventional heating.

Operation
The Adora SLQ WP is how to operate the models without heat pump, very easy. How much energy will be saved, you decide for yourself, you have the possibility to choose between three different levels EcoHybrid. The preferred level, you can save such that it is used for each wash.

The good thing about the various stages
The Adora SLQ WP adapts to your wishes regarding energy conservation. The diagram explains the various EcoHybrid levels using a 60 - ° C program."


Post# 657289 , Reply# 9   1/31/2013 at 15:02 (4,074 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)        
Oi!

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...now suddenly my new toys no longer seem that new! Heat pump washer! Colour displays! ....

Post# 657293 , Reply# 10   1/31/2013 at 15:08 (4,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
And

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A newly designed dispenser...LOl


Post# 657297 , Reply# 11   1/31/2013 at 15:36 (4,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Touch Control Display...

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"Press a razor sharp touch display with explanatory graphics and icons, lightly touching the screen instead of buttons and knobs, and the clear «Press and go" concept:
Never has the use of a washing machine been so simple, intuitive and innovative as the new Adora models."


Post# 657299 , Reply# 12   1/31/2013 at 15:40 (4,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Adora TSL WP

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Post# 657300 , Reply# 13   1/31/2013 at 15:41 (4,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
New Designed Filter

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This is better the previous model needed a bottle brush to clean the inside panel..


Post# 657301 , Reply# 14   1/31/2013 at 15:44 (4,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
And

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The ubiquitous handy rack..


Post# 657302 , Reply# 15   1/31/2013 at 15:47 (4,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Adora TSL WP

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Nice Sleek Tilting Control Panel

Post# 657308 , Reply# 16   1/31/2013 at 16:00 (4,074 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Dryer Translation....

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"A convincing cleaning concept
Thanks to the great and smooth screen surface dust and lint are retained optimal - so your laundry soft and fluffy always remains. In addition, the new door filter can be cleaned easily and conveniently.

Secure system for long life
By Frontsieb ensures that even the finest particles remain and the heat pump system can maintain its high power constant. It can be cleaned with little effort.

Careful and gentle drying
In the large 7-kg Honeycomb drum, the laundry is gently moved and is thus pretty dry evenly. The textiles are less wrinkled and can be easily ironed. Another contributing factor in reversing the (mutually rotating) honeycomb drum, which can be set independently using the new ReversierenPlus."


Post# 657311 , Reply# 17   1/31/2013 at 16:14 (4,074 days old) by Logixx (Germany)        

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Are English manuals online yet? When I read about the new line like a week ago, there was nothing. I think it works kinda similar to Bosch's heat-exchanger they use in their dishwashers - if I understood the patend information correctly. And before you ask... the detailed information regarding Zug's patend and how it works is in German. I might add the link later (am writing this from my phone).

Alex


Post# 657312 , Reply# 18   1/31/2013 at 16:17 (4,074 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Stunning appliances! But also with a high pricetag. The washer is 5930 Swiss francs, so around 4800 Euros or 6500 American dollars. The dryer is 4900 Swiss francs, 4000 Euros or 5400 American dollars. But for that money you get the latest technology. And no dumbing down of water temperatures ofcourse!

There is not only a heat pump in this machine, but also a regular heater. You can choose if you want to use one of them or both. Using the heat pump only is the most energy efficient, but I assume that takes longer. A pity the manual is not of the new model.




Post# 657313 , Reply# 19   1/31/2013 at 16:21 (4,074 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Wow

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i must say these are very interesting machines Mike and beautiful looking too BUT! do you remember when you had just bought yours ;-)

Post# 657317 , Reply# 20   1/31/2013 at 16:30 (4,074 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Every model in that line has a different display. The TOL SLQ and the SLQ WP have the multicolour touch display. I wish they had put the new manual online instead of the old one. I'm looking forward to read how the operation of the machine goes.

The new detergent dispenser looks good. But they don't explain much more than that it is easier to clean.

The new Adora with heat pump uses 55% less energy than the normal models.

Correction on the previous post: There are three choices for heating:

1. Only heat pump;
2. Mostly heat pump with help of a traditional heating element;
3. Half heat pump, half traditional heater.


Post# 657583 , Reply# 21   2/2/2013 at 05:59 (4,072 days old) by l86810 (Southend, UK)        

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Wow absolutely stunning!!
Can't wait for the manual

Looks like I'll have to get saving lol


Post# 657600 , Reply# 22   2/2/2013 at 09:26 (4,072 days old) by dj-Gabriele ()        
Excellent machine! But...

...the heat pump heating function is just a little more than a gimmick! It will lessen the life expectancy of the machine (remember that sealed copper tubing under pressure and vibration and compressors don't fit well together!) and at current Italian electric prices (highest in Europe) the price difference between the "standard" model and this one will be filled in no less than 15.000 washes! Yup, 15.000! Assuming doing only 60°C washes of course. What machines does that many it its life? That is a wash a day for more than 41 years!

Post# 657799 , Reply# 23   2/3/2013 at 08:21 (4,071 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
They are

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stunning and advanced but $11,000 for a washer and dryer. I'd need the lotto and even then I'd feel guilty.
Love the color displays!! And is that a SS drum I see in the dryer?

I bet there is still a lot of handcrafting at the Zug Factory.





Post# 658052 , Reply# 24   2/4/2013 at 12:42 (4,070 days old) by MikeKLondon (London)        
Love it

Love it, want it, got to have it, and will have it just have to wait till we do the refit I'm scared to even look at the price yet I'l save that till the morning

Post# 658142 , Reply# 25   2/5/2013 at 02:17 (4,069 days old) by MikeKLOndon (London)        
Cost

That's TO much money

Post# 658143 , Reply# 26   2/5/2013 at 02:25 (4,069 days old) by MikeKLOndon (London)        
V-Zug Web site

I like the web site its as well built as there washer

Post# 658204 , Reply# 27   2/5/2013 at 12:28 (4,069 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

As much as I like it, I feel the brand isn't as well built as it seems.
I would expect to pay that much money and get a 20 year Guarantee (OK 10 would be all right), but only 2 year guarantee. Thats a right con, for something which possibly isn't going to last as long as a Miele.

Maybe there is a reason for only a 2 year guarantee, maybe if the parts fail, they are too expensive for VZug to pay for them if you report the fault at say 5 years old.


Post# 658212 , Reply# 28   2/5/2013 at 13:12 (4,069 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
"As much as I like it, I feel the brand isn't as wel

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And again Matt, please pray on what do you base that statement on, disregarding guarantee!!

Post# 658259 , Reply# 29   2/5/2013 at 16:31 (4,069 days old) by whichwasher2007 ()        
this is truely a step foreward

i couldn't believe my eyes when i first say this, through facebook about 2 weeks ago, it is simply outstanding achievement

the SLQ WP has
A+++ (-40%) that is actually equivlant to A -68% or nearly A+++++++

this is the first to have a colour touch screen, and the only model to come out with a full touch screen in years. (since the WA65205)

i can't wait to get the french instruction manual open, if it opens????


Post# 658398 , Reply# 30   2/6/2013 at 05:45 (4,068 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
@chestermikeuk

The guarantee is the thing that sells appliances to me
If the guarantee is short then I feel the manufacturer either has no faith in its appliances, or the parts are to expensive for the manufacturer to place inside if there is ever a problem within guarantee.
I know its Swiss made, which is just as good as German build, if not better, but 10 year guarantee would be much better on something that expensive. So i don't feel there built as well as they should.
(Another thing is that I saw a photo of the machines (Previous Range) with Plastic tub and plastic paddles)


Post# 658408 , Reply# 31   2/6/2013 at 06:41 (4,068 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        
If the guarantee is short then I feel the manufacturer eithe

Zanussi Washcrafts didn;t have 10 year guarantees.

AEG Lavamats didn't have 10 year guarantees

Miele only offered 1 year guarantees until the early 2000.s

Bosch machines only come with a 2 year guarantee.

 

By your theory, this must mean that they are therefore of low quality too.

 

(Incidentally, my Maytasko only has a 2 year warranty, I must be imagining the quality of that too...)

 

I presume you have never seen let alone used a V-Zug, whereas Mike owns one - like the saying goes, don't judge a book by it's cover.  It's a hard lesson to learn (lord don't I know).

 

Just a friendly piece of advice, nothing more nothing less...

 

Jon


Post# 658410 , Reply# 32   2/6/2013 at 06:47 (4,068 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
@ glenfieldmathk

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Plastic tubs mean nothing in terms of reliability,

They resist coin damage much more than any enamel tub could ever resist and they insulate the heat of the wash water better than any other material out there resulting in economy.

They dont make cookware and pans from stainless steel for no reason other than looks.
Its because it conducts heat well amongst other reasons.

Judging by how thin some stainless steel tubs can be Id take my bets on plastic being more ressiliant in the long run against stray items inevitabbly finding their way into the machine.

Now as for the gurantee some manufacturers have different ideas granted but dont judge any book by its covers before you have looked at the appliance and experienced it for yourself which you quite clearly have not.

Flip side - Dyson offer a 5 year gurantee on their cleaners, Why? because it was the only way Which? would ever reccomend them as the reliability is so poor that for the money they ask they are not good value for money. Dyson offer the gurantee as they know customers will need to use it.





Post# 658411 , Reply# 33   2/6/2013 at 06:56 (4,068 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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p.s

just wondered what material you thought WM30's had and how long you reckon those last?


Post# 658433 , Reply# 34   2/6/2013 at 10:14 (4,068 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
New here

Hey,
I've just logedd in here and im from germany. The manuals aren't online yet. if you load a german on, you just get the manual of the past year model. 2 years waranty are normal in germany and neighbourhoud. The quality of v zug is just amazing. and it wont coast that much. it will coast you half that much if you buy it on other sites, but it is still just amazing expensive. And on heating system: It can heat withe 50/50 3,6 kw heater and heatpump, 25/75 or 0/100 spliting.


Post# 658456 , Reply# 35   2/6/2013 at 12:56 (4,068 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Guarentees

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I cant help thinking there is a sort twisted irony to this guarentee business with quality machines you shouldnt need a long guarentee as they are built to last whereas with cheap junk you will need a long guarentee



Post# 658472 , Reply# 36   2/6/2013 at 14:29 (4,068 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

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This may be an interesting link for people to have a look at regarding warranty and guarantees.

'How long do the consumer guarantees last for?

The consumer guarantees are not limited to a set time period. Instead, they last for the amount of time that is reasonable to expect given the cost and quality of the item or any representations made about the item.

This means that a consumer may be entitled to a remedy after any voluntary or extended warranty has expired.

For example, a car would be expected to last longer than a television, and a television would be expected to last longer than an inexpensive toy. A more expensive fridge would also be expected to last longer than an inexpensive fridge.'

Effectively, our legislation ties warranty to a comparative purchase price/value of good scenario - you would justifiably expect a V Zug to last longer than an Electrolux....so regardless of the card that comes with the machine stating 12 months warranty, there is a legal obligation here to warrant goods that are effectively sold as a 'quality option' based on the consumers reasonable expectation of longevity.


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Post# 658515 , Reply# 37   2/6/2013 at 16:50 (4,068 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)        
False economy comes to mind.

And I'm not saying this to rain on anyone's parade. It's pretty in a stark and minimalistic way, but far too expensive for what it does and is.




Post# 663017 , Reply# 38   2/28/2013 at 09:10 (4,046 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Now

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Thats a Zug Launderama we would like to visit!!



Post# 663020 , Reply# 39   2/28/2013 at 09:22 (4,046 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
"Fuhrend in Kuche Und Waschraum"

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Featuring "Sports Wash" which is a "Quick Wash" on most programmes...



Post# 758600 , Reply# 40   5/21/2014 at 12:21 (3,599 days old) by juliengenf ()        
Adora SLQ

Hi ...

I just made some videos of the Adora SLQ (without heat pump) if you want to have a look.
Regards.



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Post# 758602 , Reply# 41   5/21/2014 at 12:37 (3,599 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Great! We were just saying on the German forum that it's a shame there are so few videos of the Swiss machines. I just shared your link. :)


Post# 758620 , Reply# 42   5/21/2014 at 14:05 (3,599 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
I want one of those launderess uniforms!

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*LOL*

Generations ago and maybe still for all one knows all over Europe you had "hand ironing" rooms pretty much laid out the same. Rows of ironing boards and women who stood over them for eight or more hours per day doing the ironing part of "hand laundry" services.

Of the places that remain today however the ironing boards are usually vacuum/blow up jobs and the irons fed from steam boilers or some such device.

If the V-Zug "no iron" program is anything like the one on my Oko-Lavamat it simply uses a combination of controlled tub action and no spins between rinses. Water temp is limited to about 40C and the final spin though fast (1200rpms) is <3mins. For lightweight percale or such things come out ready to iron. Heavier shirts will need to "drip dry" somewhat as they come out nearly wet, especially areas made with double layers of fabric such as collars and cuffs.

In an odd but interesting twist my older Miele does pretty much the same for it's "Permanent Press" cycle, minus the controlled drum actions. Again simply no spins between the four rinses, but one gets a series of short burst spins. Result is still the same, many items are much to wet for ironing and will need to be hung for drying.

All of these programs it seems require one to load the washer at about half capacity in order to achieve the best "no iron" results.


Post# 758626 , Reply# 43   5/21/2014 at 14:34 (3,599 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
No Iron

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The manual says for this option:

 

For washing requiring very gentle treatment

- Reduced washing action

- Higher water level during washing and rinsing
- Reduced spin speed: 800 rpm
- Optimum wash load: max. 3.5 kg

 

www.vzug.com/medias/sys_master/us...


Post# 758640 , Reply# 44   5/21/2014 at 15:49 (3,599 days old) by juliengenf ()        

Don't forget the 20 mn of steam at the end of the program :-) ...



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