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New LG front load washer: just one rinse? |
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Post# 661535 , Reply# 1   2/21/2013 at 19:49 (4,079 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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I've never heard of a front load washer that only does one deep rinse...either modern or vintage. That does not seem to be sufficient rinsing.
My Frigidaire front loader has a minimum of two rinses in every cycle. Quick Wash and Touch Up has two rinses, Normal has three, Heavy soil/whites has four. The instructions recommend a very light dose of detergent in the two-rinse cycles. |
Post# 661539 , Reply# 2   2/21/2013 at 20:09 (4,078 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 661580 , Reply# 3   2/22/2013 at 02:05 (4,078 days old) by fido ()   |   | |
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It seems odd to me. Machines I've observed on test usually do 3 rinses but I have known some that did 4. |
Post# 661599 , Reply# 6   2/22/2013 at 06:02 (4,078 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 661606 , Reply# 8   2/22/2013 at 07:02 (4,078 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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From my understanding, TurboWash will rinse the clothes during a low-speed spin using the rinse jet. A 'deep' rinse only takes place for the softening rinse:
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Post# 661625 , Reply# 9   2/22/2013 at 08:40 (4,078 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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I was just reading the LG website the other day about the Turbo Wash jet system models. It was my understanding that in order to save time, the jet spray system was used for washing and rinsing. I would like to know if they do omit the "deep" tumble rinse if used without fabric softener. From the videos on their site, it looks like there is a recirculated spray in the wash and a fresh water spray in the rinse. Substituting a fill & tumble rinse for a shower-spray rinse wouldn't probably cut it for me either if only done once.
Whirlpool topload HE washers use a shower spray while revolving the basket at low speeds but this is done in several sequences with higher speed spins between each shower segment. Samsung also has this jet-spray system in a few of their models as well, not sure of their cycle sequencing though. Are there cycles on your washer that default to the Turbo Wash system automatically or is it always an option that must be selected? I think it would be rather reassuring to see the water squirting on the load, at least the visual presence of water at work in the machine is a good thing. |
Post# 661633 , Reply# 10   2/22/2013 at 09:39 (4,078 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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Greg, as opposed to the virtual presence of water in the machine when it's not seen? |
Post# 661667 , Reply# 11   2/22/2013 at 13:26 (4,078 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 661733 , Reply# 13   2/22/2013 at 17:46 (4,078 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 661888 , Reply# 15   2/23/2013 at 13:29 (4,077 days old) by johnmk ()   |   | |
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Is anyone aware of an affordable water-use meter that I could use to see how much water is used? Either 3/4" garden hose thread or 1/2" NPT preferably. |
Post# 661906 , Reply# 16   2/23/2013 at 14:39 (4,077 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 663583 , Reply# 18   3/3/2013 at 07:22 (4,069 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)   |   | |
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Well I watched the video and I counted a spray rinse for the first spin then a deep rinse with a good amount of water...more than what was used during the wash cycle. Then two spray rinses in the final spin and that was during high speed spin. To me if it sprays with a rather high spin occurring then it will drive the water thru the load rather well. I can see the concern if one uses too much detergent then I would use the extra rinse or a softener rinse. Interesting machine to watch.
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Post# 663587 , Reply# 20   3/3/2013 at 09:32 (4,069 days old) by johnmk ()   |   | |
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To clarify even further, there are only two drain cycles. One after the wash, and one after the rinse. |
Post# 663598 , Reply# 21   3/3/2013 at 12:22 (4,069 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 663778 , Reply# 23   3/4/2013 at 09:26 (4,068 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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I wanted to add to this on a couple of experiences.
I hsve owned an lg washer & it was my favourite to date, it had a recirculatory jet which was very powerful & hit the back of the drum, I wouldn't discount the effectiveness of the recirculatory jets, they enable an effective rinse at low levels. Combining the high spin and fresh water spray before the deep rinse with the jets, it might not be rinsing that bad. I accidentally found my Dyson washing machine does something similar when you select the dirt only soil setting, the load size recommended is a half load, the machine spins at max spin (1400rpm) after the main wash followed by a very high level rinse and then a 7 minute final spin at 1400rpm. The result was surprising good, luckily though I can add up to 5 rinses. Darren |
Post# 663850 , Reply# 25   3/4/2013 at 17:53 (4,068 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 663879 , Reply# 26   3/4/2013 at 21:48 (4,067 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Taken from the (rather useless and uninformative) service manual for the WM8000.
There are a four hoses in the first picture going from the water valves to the dispenser and one hose to the front of the washer - which supplies FRESH water for the spray rinses. In the second pic, you can see where the hose disappears behind the counterweight to then connect to the spray rinse nozzle in the rubber gasket. Alex |
Post# 663891 , Reply# 28   3/4/2013 at 23:13 (4,067 days old) by Logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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The service manual has no information on cycles or even water temps in it at all - worthless. It just contains a table that lists the cycles and options like the user's manual does.
I found it on a page called electrotanya, IIRC. Try this name plus wm8000 service manual in Google. If you can't find it, I'll give you the link tomorrow. |
Post# 664019 , Reply# 30   3/5/2013 at 15:45 (4,067 days old) by Logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 664061 , Reply# 31   3/5/2013 at 19:20 (4,067 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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This is what one of these cycle overviews looks like. This one is from a long-discontinued model's (WM3885) service manual. And in the video, a lady talks of a - as she calls it - cheat-sheet.
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