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Post# 663161   2/28/2013 at 23:09 (4,072 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 663162 , Reply# 1   2/28/2013 at 23:10 (4,072 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 663163 , Reply# 2   2/28/2013 at 23:12 (4,072 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 663164 , Reply# 3   2/28/2013 at 23:13 (4,072 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 663165 , Reply# 4   2/28/2013 at 23:16 (4,072 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Post# 663166 , Reply# 5   2/28/2013 at 23:16 (4,072 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 663169 , Reply# 6   2/28/2013 at 23:20 (4,072 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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Post# 663170 , Reply# 7   2/28/2013 at 23:22 (4,072 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 663171 , Reply# 8   2/28/2013 at 23:23 (4,072 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 663172 , Reply# 9   2/28/2013 at 23:26 (4,072 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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I'll shoot the dial next time I'm downstairs. Thank you to Ted (mr-maytag) for letting me know he found this locally on Craigslist.
The machine looks very low use actually so when I get a chance I'll put it through its paces and see what's up. I'm sure it's going to need some work besides changing the boot. |
Post# 663173 , Reply# 10   2/28/2013 at 23:31 (4,072 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Post# 663175 , Reply# 11   2/28/2013 at 23:34 (4,072 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 663182 , Reply# 12   3/1/2013 at 00:29 (4,072 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Dad worked for WH and Betty Furness was like an aunt to me but I don't remember anything looking like that.
Could have sworn our last slantfront had 3 belts. It had to. Both drum pulleys were roughly the same size and so were the motor pulleys. No transmission, just the giant solenoid pressing the progressive-ratio spin sheave and a one-way clutch between the drum pulleys. So there had to be an intermediate reduction pulley and its accompanying belt for tumble. The slantfront before that had transmission and inner/outer doors. The squarefront after that was much more modren (sic) and had the potato pulley and an unfortunate repair history. Mom eventually kicked it out of the house, just before she kicked me out, in favor of a Weasyhouse toploader. |
Post# 663186 , Reply# 13   3/1/2013 at 00:47 (4,072 days old) by alr2903 (TN)   |   | |
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Congrats Robert. This is gonna be a fun thread. arthur |
Post# 663187 , Reply# 14   3/1/2013 at 00:58 (4,072 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 663189 , Reply# 15   3/1/2013 at 01:33 (4,072 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Here's a print ad pinning the year at 1955. Apparently the feature of the L-25 was that it was 25" wide.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO arbilab's LINK |
Post# 663191 , Reply# 16   3/1/2013 at 02:20 (4,072 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Hi guys. Tha machine looks superb an in really sound looking condition. Really hope that you are able to work some magic and get her energised again soon. Paul |
Post# 663195 , Reply# 17   3/1/2013 at 02:26 (4,072 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 663209 , Reply# 18   3/1/2013 at 04:55 (4,072 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)   |   | |
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Post# 663223 , Reply# 20   3/1/2013 at 07:38 (4,072 days old) by mitch (Atlanta)   |   | |
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Great find and looks to be in decent shape! I also like what appears to be a late 70's Cadillac parked in front of it in the pictures from the original ad. Look forward to seeing more of this washer! |
Post# 663225 , Reply# 21   3/1/2013 at 07:43 (4,072 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 663226 , Reply# 22   3/1/2013 at 07:44 (4,072 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Awesome grab, Robert! Beautiful! Very cool it is on casters. How does the water hose connect? Our neighbors had that little machine when I was a boy and I was in awe of it as the single control knob was the same one that was on our slant front Westy, but of course this was a flat front and I had never seen a flat front Westy before. The wonders of childhood! Ha! The woman used Tide in it and you can guess how that turned out.
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Post# 663239 , Reply# 24   3/1/2013 at 09:07 (4,071 days old) by agitatorboogie (Denver)   |   | |
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Post# 663242 , Reply# 25   3/1/2013 at 09:31 (4,071 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 663243 , Reply# 26   3/1/2013 at 09:31 (4,071 days old) by A440 ()   |   | |
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How awesome Robert! I remember an ad for this model. The washer was Yellow. I thought I viewed it here. What a fun machine! |
Post# 663253 , Reply# 28   3/1/2013 at 10:33 (4,071 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Mike I have an original boot nearly brand new for this model. As for the "one in one out rule", if I decide to keep this machine it will replace something. I have an idea which machine is next on the "list".
The control dial is the only control, it chooses the wash temp by the wash time setting like all early Westinghouse washers. Jim, not sure where it was made, but I would assume it would have been made in Mansfield. |
Post# 663259 , Reply# 29   3/1/2013 at 11:49 (4,071 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)   |   | |
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That is a lovely Westinghouse Robert! I've not seen the lever for the wheels before. It's a rather clever device. Congratulations on the nifty and unusual find. If something has to leave, I'll gladly volunteer to take your lovely WCI-58 off of your hands, and I won't even charge you too much for the privelage. Already ran, ducked, and am hiding in an undiscolsed basement Dave |
Post# 663264 , Reply# 30   3/1/2013 at 12:19 (4,071 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)   |   | |
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Post# 663269 , Reply# 31   3/1/2013 at 12:47 (4,071 days old) by jamman_98 (Columbia, SC)   |   | |
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Post# 663271 , Reply# 32   3/1/2013 at 12:51 (4,071 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 663272 , Reply# 33   3/1/2013 at 13:00 (4,071 days old) by mr-maytag (Minneapolis, MN)   |   | |
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Post# 663282 , Reply# 34   3/1/2013 at 13:21 (4,071 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Wow Robert what a great find! I never knew they made a portable version of any of their washers, how kewl is that!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! I hope your NOS tub boot lasts longer then the one Tim and John installed in my little yellow Spacemate for the Spring Wash-In last year! Unfortunately within two month after the wash-in the boot started coming apart (delaminating?) between the creases. :-( Kevin |
Post# 663283 , Reply# 35   3/1/2013 at 13:26 (4,071 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Mark Harman had one of those and I had a chance to get it but didnt like a dummy!!! |
Post# 663284 , Reply# 36   3/1/2013 at 13:33 (4,071 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 663289 , Reply# 37   3/1/2013 at 14:23 (4,071 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()   |   | |
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Is that a porcelain drum? That must be heavy! |
Post# 663293 , Reply# 38   3/1/2013 at 15:16 (4,071 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)   |   | |
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Was that a rollabout model only? Some of the ads show the timer dial protruding through a counter top as a built in.
Way too early for your birthday; but just tastefully late for mine!!!! |
Post# 663312 , Reply# 39   3/1/2013 at 17:29 (4,071 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 663317 , Reply# 40   3/1/2013 at 17:50 (4,071 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Great find Robert, I have never actually seen one with the portability casters installed. WH did indeed try out the transmission-less 3B system when they introduced this style washer in about 1955. About two years later they abandoned the two belt transmission drive system that they had used from the beginning of their slant-front automatic washers and used a modified version of the drive system your cute washer has for all their FL washers through till the time WCI bought the WH home appliance division from WH Electric.
As many may remember I have the same washer and it did indeed come from Mark Harmon. I have always though that this was a very handsome washer, I often fine myself starring at it over at the museum, LOL.
Over the years I have come across quite a few of these 25" washers and they have almost never been in really bad shape mechanically. I think that people just stopped using them for some reason [ they diffidently could be a leak problem from the door as the water filled at least an inch or two up on the door glass and like the old Bendix FLers that came before if you dare unlatch the door you had an instant flood ] so they probably were not that great around future appliance kids like most of the people on this site, LOL.
Even though this was the first use of the 3B drive system for WH FL Washers, when they used a similar system on their full sized slant front machines they changed almost every part and as a result almost nothing is interchangeable between the two different size and style washers.
I do have some spare used parts for it if you need them Robert. |
Post# 663323 , Reply# 41   3/1/2013 at 18:32 (4,071 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 663375 , Reply# 42   3/1/2013 at 22:19 (4,071 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 663376 , Reply# 43   3/1/2013 at 22:38 (4,071 days old) by badgerdx ()   |   | |
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Deeply envious, per usual. |
Post# 663398 , Reply# 44   3/2/2013 at 01:02 (4,071 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Last I remember that logo was our mid-50s canister vacuum.
I can't definitively say when the 3-B became the standard. But we moved it to our new house in summer 1957. Fullsize, slantfront, chevron door. Few differences from the late 40s before it. Suspension, identical. Solenoids, identical, though the spin solenoid performed a slightly different function in the transmissionless. Timer and cycles, identical. Pump coupling went from the older flatmetal spring to the newer coiled spring. New pump cover included hose nipple for diaphragm waterlevel sense. Previous waterlevel sense was a switch on the bottom suspension spring. Older, double door; newer, single door plus boot. Yes we had to have the boot replaced, the only repair I couldn't do. I was ~13yo and rebuilt the pump coupling and spin clutch. Pritdang good value for 50c/week allowance. |
Post# 663447 , Reply# 45   3/2/2013 at 09:22 (4,070 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)   |   | |
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Post# 663459 , Reply# 46   3/2/2013 at 10:40 (4,070 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 663471 , Reply# 47   3/2/2013 at 12:53 (4,070 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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amazing what you find on CL..know little about 1, 2, or 3 belt relevance and great that you found it. I love the old appliances -your smile says it all...it is cute and cool.
Anyone calculate the price of this washer in today's money? Revinnkevin - love your Westinghouse - that yellow is beautiful and yellow is so gay, no matter what the meaning! |
Post# 663480 , Reply# 48   3/2/2013 at 13:06 (4,070 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 663513 , Reply# 50   3/2/2013 at 15:17 (4,070 days old) by syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, MD)   |   | |
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...on these is the only non interchangeable part between these and the full size machines, the slot on each is curved in opposite directions...I was wondering if this early one had the slider clutch with the non curved slot... |
Post# 663545 , Reply# 51   3/2/2013 at 19:25 (4,070 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Many parts were not interchangeable between the 25" space-savers and the later slant-front full sized machines including, the motor, motor pulley, the water pump, the idler pulley, both main pulleys, the door boot and all three belts. There were some interchangeable parts including the main bearings and water seal, the inlet valve and the pump solenoid. |
Post# 663565 , Reply# 52   3/2/2013 at 23:42 (4,070 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 663567 , Reply# 53   3/3/2013 at 00:20 (4,070 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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The earliest-known (to me) example of a non-turbine continuously-variable transmisson. Ratio range could have approached 3:1.
Our 3-B slant was a shallow spiral. This could have facilitated--or inhibited--"shifting" in consort with the direction of motor rotation. I'd be interested to see the 'compact' suspension by comparison to the fullsize. Fullsize was 7 elements. 2 top/rear leafs with damping pads, one on either side, one on the bottom, and a coil on either side. Was there a rear/center coil as well? It's only been 50 years since I saw behind one of these. |
Post# 663573 , Reply# 54   3/3/2013 at 01:56 (4,070 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 663965 , Reply# 55   3/5/2013 at 11:17 (4,067 days old) by syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, MD)   |   | |
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....of course what was I thinking, John, about all the other parts- thanks for that post....but I also wanted to ask wasn't the 3 belt system was in use on the LS-7 & LS-8 late 1953 to late 1954...? |
Post# 663981 , Reply# 56   3/5/2013 at 12:33 (4,067 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)   |   | |
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Another great find. Robert, you have all the luck! |
Post# 663983 , Reply# 57   3/5/2013 at 12:37 (4,067 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 664109 , Reply# 58   3/5/2013 at 22:29 (4,067 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Spin had its own slot on the motor pulley, that's one belt. Tumble took 2 belts, from motor to reduction idler and idler to drum. Inside the drum hub was a one-way clutch such that the tumble pulley ran all the time but when the spin pulley ran faster it overtook the tumble.
The older 2-belt had one from motor to transmission then one from transmission to drum. Doing away with the transmission made the machine cheaper to build and maintain. The trans was not field-repairable. The 3-belt spin hub/clutch was very inexpensive and easily replaced (I changed one around age 14). |