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1955-56 hotpoint dishwasher Something's missing
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Post# 665579   3/13/2013 at 11:30 (4,055 days old) by atomicman56 ()        

Hello everyone,

Just made an Ebay purchase for a vintage hotpoint dishwasher manufactured on 10/1955 Serial 6375269, Catalog Number 10-mc24.

Got the dishwasher home and low and behold there are some parts missing "go figure".

I know that I am missing a water inlet valve. "generic part"

I have three wires hanging down. 1 orange, one blue/green, and one white that I believe split into two.

Does anyone know if this had a waste/sump pump? Which wire goes where?

Any help is good help.

Looking for manuals or pdf. files





Post# 665585 , Reply# 1   3/13/2013 at 11:53 (4,055 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I believe I have a service manual that would cover this machine. I'll try and get it scanned tonight and up into Automatic Ephemera tomorrow for you if you wish.

Post# 665722 , Reply# 2   3/14/2013 at 02:55 (4,054 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()        
CONGRATULATIONS!!!

I saw your unit on Ebay and was so hoping it would be going to a good home. As many know about me from my old posts, I had hunted one similar to yours for many, many years, and finally got a 1958 this past Fall. I'm sorry that I'm not knowledgeable enough about the mechanics to answer your questions about the missing parts, but I just had to stop in and say how happy I am that you got this lovely Hotpoint. Not sure if the pictures of the underside of my unit will be of any help, but I will be happy to post them to a sort of reference even though our units are a couple of years apart. When you get a chance, I know I'd love to see more pics of your new "baby".

Post# 665747 , Reply# 3   3/14/2013 at 07:17 (4,054 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I posted that manual for you if you still need it, you can download it here...

 


Post# 665792 , Reply# 4   3/14/2013 at 12:00 (4,054 days old) by atomicman56 ()        
Thanks

Thanks,

I downloaded the manual, however it did not include my model 10-mc24, but it does include what I need to put her back together.

I will post some more pics and updates later

~SW


Post# 665850 , Reply# 5   3/14/2013 at 16:42 (4,054 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
I would love to see more pics.

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I have only had one impeller machine and that was a Mobile Maid years ago. It developed a leak and I gave it away. I wish I hadn't done that.

I love the look of these Hotpoint machines. Especially the later models that had each rack operate independently of each other. They look like they are so well made and fun to load. I don't know if I'd want one for my daily driver but from what I have read these machines were highly rated in their day.


Post# 665980 , Reply# 6   3/15/2013 at 01:56 (4,053 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()        
I wonder......

if the 24 inch Hotpoint models (like mine and this one) were introduced in mid to late 1955??? Seems like everything I've seen on the older ones showed the wider ones. If it was late 55, you really got a great find since yours would be one of the earlier produced 24 inch Hotpoints. Anyone know when these were intro'd??

Post# 665982 , Reply# 7   3/15/2013 at 02:01 (4,053 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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Parents owned and I operated 53-56 impeller Hotpoints. Worked well. In those days, prerinsing was assumed. I still do it now. In those days, detergents had phosphates and there was no such thing as additives or need for them.

I'm 92% certain, and one manual confirms, a standalone drain pump. Absolutely could hot have been gravity, as they had siphon breaks at countertop level.


Post# 665984 , Reply# 8   3/15/2013 at 02:37 (4,053 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()        
Is this considered the.....

"siphon break" you mentioned? I had noticed in the manuals (posted on here for the 1956s) that they used an overhead shower to fill the machine (and I assume this one has it too with that pipe that runs upward), but mine has the side fill. So neat to see the changes in what look like the same machine.

Post# 665987 , Reply# 9   3/15/2013 at 03:58 (4,053 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
I thought these filled from the top

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..with some kind of spray rinse or something to wash off the food particles?

Post# 666401 , Reply# 10   3/17/2013 at 01:13 (4,051 days old) by 1952Crestwood ()        
I thought so too, but...

I learned when I bought this that some local codes required there to be this sort of air gap in the fill line to avoid some kind of back siphoning into the water supply. With there being pressure in the water lines I can't imagine that happening, but I am the first to admit, I don't understand the technical parts of plumbing. Can someone more technically advanced be able to give some input as to how/why the pre-rinse from the older models is handled by my model or was it considered unnecessary. Maybe pre-rinsing was standard practice at the time??

Post# 666516 , Reply# 11   3/17/2013 at 14:39 (4,051 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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Some local codes require siphon breaks or backflow valves on all water feeds, including garden faucets, excluding sinks and tubs. Austin was like that but surrounding towns were not, even in the same county.

The siphon break I was referring to was mounted on the sink, where you might find a hand sprayer. It gurgled during draining.


Post# 666529 , Reply# 12   3/17/2013 at 15:18 (4,051 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
Backflow

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I had to learn about all this when I was putting in my sprinkler system. They told me that local codes require them between the sprinkler system and the water supply. They said it could syphon chemicals in from the grass and contaminate the water supply. I also thought it seemed hard to believe but they said it was required (and not cheap I might add!!!).

The plumber told me that in our city in Arkansas they were beginning to require them between the house and water supply for every new home being built. My house doesn't require it because it was built in 1970. I didn't know they had them inside the house as well.


Post# 666695 , Reply# 13   3/18/2013 at 04:49 (4,050 days old) by retro-man (- boston,ma)        

They have put those mandates on us here also with the backflow preventers. I have one on the main water supply for the house in the basement and another one outside on the back of the house for the irrigation system. The one inside gets tested by the water company every 6 months at almost $50.00 but the one outside is only inspected on installation.


Post# 668703 , Reply# 14   3/27/2013 at 12:26 (4,041 days old) by atomicman56 ()        
Quick update

Like Frankensteins monster, I was able to piece the machine together using a water inlet valve from a late model Staber washing machine. I just capped off the cold inlet and used the hot inlet along with a washer hose, a couple of clamps and adapted it to the filler pipe.

It's alive.....hahahahahahhah

I ran 4 or 5 complete cycles and did a load of dishes that came out cleaner than my current washer.

Then......oh....no...

The timer died....

I pulled the timer motor and tested it...no good.

So, I'm looking for a Ingraham Co. 115V 60CYP3 Motor mad on or around 10-1955. It's a small black can motor.

Anyone have one they can part with?

Thanks

swolfe1@neo.rr.com
Shawn
330-eight eight three-8221


Post# 668732 , Reply# 15   3/27/2013 at 15:29 (4,041 days old) by atomicman56 ()        
Timer Fixed

Got the timer fixed for now. I reheated the solder points inside the motor and plugged it into the wall...yeah it works.

My research indicate a lot of people were searching for new timer motors, and maybe this will help someone out.

Just ran a load for wifey. She'll let me know...


Post# 668734 , Reply# 16   3/27/2013 at 15:44 (4,041 days old) by atomicman56 ()        
More Specs

My machine was made on 10/1955 so I believe that would make it a 56 model. under counter 24 in., gravity drain, impeller model. Water inlet valve was missing and replaced with one from a washing machine ( just about any style will work).

So far so good. All I need now is some sort of replacement door gasket. I has some minor leakage.



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