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Thread Number: 45491
The justly famous Hoover Rinse-O-Matic ! |
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| Post# 665968 , Reply# 1 3/15/2013 at 01:10 (4,054 days old) by unclejohn (Can) | ||
0632, before ...
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| Post# 665969 , Reply# 2 3/15/2013 at 01:11 (4,054 days old) by unclejohn (Can) | ||
... and after ...
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| Post# 665970 , Reply# 3 3/15/2013 at 01:14 (4,054 days old) by unclejohn (Can) | ||
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0632 i.d. Identification sticker with Serial Nr, etc. 
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| Post# 665971 , Reply# 4 3/15/2013 at 01:16 (4,054 days old) by unclejohn (Can) | ||
0632, back view
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| Post# 665973 , Reply# 6 3/15/2013 at 01:34 (4,054 days old) by unclejohn (Can) | ||
0632, top view
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| Post# 665974 , Reply# 7 3/15/2013 at 01:35 (4,054 days old) by unclejohn (Can) | ||
0632, top view with open lid (spin compartment)
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| Post# 665975 , Reply# 8 3/15/2013 at 01:37 (4,054 days old) by unclejohn (Can) | ||
0632, spin basket and controls
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| Post# 665976 , Reply# 9 3/15/2013 at 01:41 (4,054 days old) by unclejohn (Can) | ||
0632, under the machine
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| Post# 665977 , Reply# 10 3/15/2013 at 01:44 (4,054 days old) by unclejohn (Can) | ||
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0632, spray paint ...inside a living room ! Yeah, that is insane... 
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| Post# 665979 , Reply# 11 3/15/2013 at 01:48 (4,054 days old) by unclejohn (Can) | ||
0632, pump base, hoses, belts and spinner pulley
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| Post# 666041 , Reply# 12 3/15/2013 at 12:05 (4,053 days old) by TwinTubber (Toronto) | ||
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Hmmm.....Now WHERE Have I Seen Somthing Like This Before??? Hey unclejohn! Great pics! And thanks for those. Others can now get a glimpse of that really great machine-one of Hoovers' best I feel. Any chance you have some vids of it in action to add? ;) Another pic of mine, for ya! 
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Post# 666042 , Reply# 13 3/15/2013 at 12:16 (4,053 days old) by vacbear58  (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Close but no cigar
When I first saw this machine I was surprised how much it looked like the 3312/3314 Hoovematics made over here - from the top. Much more so that the later model HMs. However looking at the pictures from underneath I am surprised to see how different the pumping arrangements are.
It appears that this machine is still using a pump driven off the motor pully although it also seems to have a spin dryer pump too. So did this machine require the impellor to be running whilst emptying the wash tub? In Uk models of this vintage there was a single pump connected to the spinner which was also used to empty the wash tub - the control on the top deck having a mechanical linkage almost to the bottom of the machine to set a valve for one or the other. Can anyone confirm? Al | ||
| Post# 666045 , Reply# 14 3/15/2013 at 12:25 (4,053 days old) by barcoboy (Canada) | ||
I don't believe vacbear58 that the wash motor has to be running in order to empty the wash tub. The belt driven pump connected to the spin motor is the same as my Hoover 0519, including the pinch valve between the pump and the wash tub. Opening this pinch valve allows the spin pump to empty the wash tub. But my washer does not have the Y after that valve, the extra hoses, nor the wash motor driven pump, so I'm thinking it is for some sort of recirculation/filtration feature of this model.
unclejohn, can you snap some more pictures of this pump and hoses, and clarify what this extra stuff is for? | ||
| Post# 666065 , Reply# 17 3/15/2013 at 14:37 (4,053 days old) by unclejohn (Can) | ||
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additional pics Hoover 0632 
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| Post# 666066 , Reply# 18 3/15/2013 at 14:39 (4,053 days old) by unclejohn (Can) | ||
This one
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| Post# 666067 , Reply# 19 3/15/2013 at 14:44 (4,053 days old) by unclejohn (Can) | ||
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And this last one : An inside look at the Hoover tt (Hoover # 0632) 
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| Post# 666070 , Reply# 20 3/15/2013 at 14:50 (4,053 days old) by unclejohn (Can) | ||
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One final note Please note that on every picture where you can see rust --or whatever damage-- it was shot prior to renovations. After renovs this gorgeous little machine looked almost like new! - uj :) | ||
| Post# 666161 , Reply# 22 3/15/2013 at 23:15 (4,053 days old) by barcoboy (Canada) | ||
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AHA! I never put 1 and 1 together, but that explains why on my 0519 there is a hose coupler and clamp between the pinch valve on the pump and the wash tub drain... it's in the exact same spot the Y is on the 0632. I guess Hoover designed it that way so that the same pump and same wash tub drain hose could be used on either the 0519 and 0632.
Thanks unclejohn for the extra photos! | ||
| Post# 666255 , Reply# 25 3/16/2013 at 12:02 (4,052 days old) by barcoboy (Canada) | ||
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Post# 666270 , Reply# 26 3/16/2013 at 13:02 (4,052 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Well I Never...... | ||
| Post# 666335 , Reply# 28 3/16/2013 at 18:22 (4,052 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Ditto what Mike said | ||
| Post# 666470 , Reply# 32 3/17/2013 at 12:50 (4,051 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Unclejohn & Twin Tubber | ||
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Post# 666698 , Reply# 34 3/18/2013 at 05:22 (4,050 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hoovermatic 3314....
Heres the UK Hoovermatic 3314 twintub with hose arrangements, the fill hose is a similar hose to the drain and comes out of the back of the washer to connect to the tap...
I`m wanting more info and pics on the Hoovermatic Filter Flow, cant believe it hasnt surfaced before over the last ten years.....I wonder if they where using the old style tubs up? do you know if it ever appeared on the later plastic tub models.. 
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Post# 666699 , Reply# 35 3/18/2013 at 05:26 (4,050 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hoovermativ 3314L | ||
| Post# 666810 , Reply# 36 3/18/2013 at 15:20 (4,050 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Thanks, Mike
Was always so entranced by the "Looking Glass" tub that I never noticed there's no fill port & valve on the deck like the North American models. Cool that these things fill from behind, more "automatic."
Psyched, Mike by the filter flo, too, but what's going on in the Frigidaire TT with the reicrculation. Do you or any of the lads have a GM Frigi, or an Operator's Manual? Check TwinTub Tubbin Now's thread, if you get a chance. Thanks. | ||
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Post# 666821 , Reply# 37 3/18/2013 at 15:35 (4,050 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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It looks to me ....
Like the rinse hose may simple have been disconnected. Looking at the pics of the rear of the machine it looks like there might JUST have been room for another hose and teh clips look big enough to also accomodate another hose.
Looking at the workings in reply 17 you can clearly see the water solenoid spin control Al | ||
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Post# 666823 , Reply# 38 3/18/2013 at 15:39 (4,050 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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recirculation - who knew?
Amazing for a Hoovermatic to have this - i wondered what that black box thing on the yellow machine was for. And just an easy idea too, re-utilising existing Hoover as the single tubs and early Hoovermatic models used exactly this method to empty the drum. looks like a mod to try on a UK machine sometime
Al | ||
| Post# 666851 , Reply# 39 3/18/2013 at 17:01 (4,050 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
My thinking exactly Al
I've already checked out the parts diagrams for this just to see how it was done!! Shame they don't show how the recirc pump was fitted. I would be tempted to try this on my T5090 as even without the lint filter on the lid, it would still filter using the drain grid at the bottom. Will have to look into this.
It's always been a drawback of the Hoover twin tubs in the UK as if you wash items like a polo shirt it can come out covered in fluff and if it can't go in the dryer then it's a bit of a bind with a lint roller! Wonder why it was never adopted fully across the ranges? More info on this feature would be really welcome Steve CLICK HERE TO GO TO sesteve's LINK 
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| Post# 666860 , Reply# 40 3/18/2013 at 17:34 (4,050 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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The attached diagram shows the fill hose is as the 3314L and I'm sure I saw a photo on someone else's thread which shows 2 hoses out of the rear
S CLICK HERE TO GO TO sesteve's LINK | ||
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Post# 666867 , Reply# 41 3/18/2013 at 17:54 (4,050 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Experiments & hoses
Steve
My mind turned to that already, actually easy enough to do test recirculation with either a Hoover single tub or an older style Hoovermatic which used pumps driven off the main wash motor. It should be easy enough to achieve re-circulation with a HMDL although it seems a shame to risk a pristine wash tub. You are absolutly right the 3314 did have two hoses out the back - one was for the automatic rinse. Later models had teh connection on the wash deck although that alwasy seemed to be like a case of "why have a simple solution when a complicated one will do" Sent you an email Al | ||
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Post# 828407 , Reply# 44 6/17/2015 at 18:22 (3,229 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Several questions
This Hoovermatic is unusual in that it has two pumps for the wash tub - it is the only one I know of to offer the water recirculation feature.
To answer your questions: Empty Wash tub Make sure that the bent hose emerging from the back of the machine is in the sink and that the sink is free draining. Turn the "power drain" control to drain. With the machine turned on (but the impeller in the wash tub NOT running) lower the spinner lid to start it and the tub should then drain as it seems that the spinner motor is the one which empties the tub. Do not run the impeller with the wash tub lid raised while the machine is emptying our you will get wet mighty quick! The white lever you refer to is for the automatic rinse and can also be used to fill the wash tube with water. There should be a second hose emerging from the back of the machine with a faucet connection on it. Connect this to the faucet, lift the "lever" up and to the left so that it is over the wash tub and turn on faucet until the correct water level is achieved - there should be a mark on the side of the tub. Switch off faucet and return the "lever" to its resting position. Just as a side point, it would probably be worth running the faucet before connecting the hose so that you have hottest water possible going into the tub. These machines are notorious for tangling the clothes so, contrary to the many videos you will see on youtube, the impeller should NOT be running when you put the clothes into the tub. Push the clothes in down the edge of the tub. It will take a 6lb load Once the wash has completed put the clothes into the spinner. The purpose of the rubber mat is to go on top of the clothes to prevent small items such as socks being flung out of the spin can during the spinning process. Take the bent hose and hang it over the side of the wash tub. With the right hand control set at the other position from automatic lower the lid and the soapy water extracted from the clothes can be returned to the tub to use again - it may need a little top up with both water and a little detergent. Once the initial spin is complete, return the bent hose to the sink again making sure the sink is running freely. Swivel the white "lever" over to the right so the end of it is over the spin can. With the other hose connected to the faucet, turn on the water (if you have a mixer faucet you can regulate the temperature, starting off warm and finishing off cold) turn the rinse control to automatic and lower the spinner lid. The spinner will cycle on and off and in theory you carry on this way til the water from the bent pipe runs clear. At this point turn off the faucet and turn the rinse control to the other position and spin until the water stops coming out of the bent pipe. Two points to note: This automatic rinse uses a lot of water and is not particularly effective so, if you have sensitive skin you my find it better to rinse in the sink after the first spin (returning soapy water to the wash tub is complete) is complete. The final spin can be up to four minutes long but the clothes will be very creased - more so than an automatic washer, so you may want to trade off the drying performance against the creasing of the clothes. Al | ||
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Post# 828408 , Reply# 45 6/17/2015 at 18:22 (3,229 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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What is the purpose of the mat?
Twofold:
Basically yes, to keep things from being flung over the top of spin basket and into the outer drum and or drain. The other purpose of the "spin mat" is to prevent items from being abraded from contact with the rim of tub and or lid during the cycle. Large commercial extractor operators just take a towel or some other thick/sturdy bit of fabric and cover the top of the laundry taking care to tuck the edges under. Being as all this may the mat for my spin dryer tore apart years ago and haven't bothered since. Long as the laundry is *well* pushed down below the rim of the basket and care is taken that small items are loaded on the bottom with heavier items on top, then things should be fine. | ||
| Post# 828678 , Reply# 48 6/19/2015 at 20:20 (3,227 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
Rinso-o-matic - Hoovermatic deluxe | ||
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Post# 828681 , Reply# 49 6/19/2015 at 20:59 (3,227 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Hoover TT Pumps
As noted up-thread and or elsewhere (cannot recall which), the pumps on Hoover TTs of all incarnations were the weak spots. It really is wise to not let these units sit about unused for long periods of time IMHO. This seems to allow seals to dry out and for forth then the pump never is leak free (if it ever was *LOL*) again.
I take my Hoover out for an "airing" at least once every month or so for a load or two just to keep things flushed and well moistened. Oh and watch whatever detergent/soap you use as well. My unit arrive nearly NIB/minty fresh but the pump was caked solid with powder detergent residue/soap gunk. Thankfully was able to score a NIB replacement and have a few more in my stash of NIB Hoover TT parts. | ||
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Post# 828683 , Reply# 50 6/19/2015 at 21:16 (3,227 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Protective Cover
That grate am all but certain is the plastic (or maybe it was made of metal in early incarnations) mat that sits on top of laundry before it is spun.
There isn't a need to block off the lower part of the spin basket as nothing could be sucked though to the pump. Well suppose something really small such as string, a cotton bud, or whatever but even with the fast revolutions of the spinner it isn't powerful enough to pull things through to the other side/down the drain. Again the larger worry would be items flung over the top during spinning and working their way down, hence the spin basket mat. www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T... | ||
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Post# 829116 , Reply# 51 6/23/2015 at 01:39 (3,224 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Pumps of Hoover
Hello John it could be the suction cups in the spin / wash pump have come adrift as happend on a model I was using recently (through lack of use they had stuck and when the valve was moved it was stiff and pulled the spring out of the stuck rubber cup) , easy to solve by opening up the pump, hopefully the spring has not snapped and its an easy fix..if the cup has come adrift just sprise it back on the spring and moisten the cup to free them up!! Hope this helps.
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Post# 829117 , Reply# 52 6/23/2015 at 01:50 (3,224 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Spin Mat
Is always useful to place on the spinning load otherwise small items can be flung over the top blocking the pump and damaging the mechanisms...likewise a towel or large item can be placed over the load and tucked down the sides as Madame Launderess has stated.
On the other hand they do make rather exceedingly good cake decorations aka Ian`s Hoover Cake. 
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| Post# 829551 , Reply# 53 6/25/2015 at 16:03 (3,221 days old) by Kitty () | ||
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@chestermikeuk I should do that with the one from my maytag TT haha 
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| Post# 830239 , Reply# 56 7/1/2015 at 05:38 (3,215 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
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I've attached the instructions for the British version - 3314L. The mat is for the top as pointed out. Sorry about the quality but hopefully they are useful for you.
S | ||
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