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Duet Sport and He2 Spiders
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Post# 668828   3/28/2013 at 03:11 (4,045 days old) by Limey ()        

Has anyone seen, or heard of corrosion and/or fracturing of the spiders fitted to the above Whirlpool manufactured machines?
Thank you.





Post# 668858 , Reply# 1   3/28/2013 at 08:14 (4,045 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Broken Spiders in WP Built Duet Sport Washers

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Yes quite a few, it is not as robust as the bigger duets and therefore seems to corrode and fail sooner, much like the cheaply made Frigidaire FL washers. But in almost every case on FD or WP washers where we see these failures the washer is being used with cold water, too little and cheap ineffective detergents and No chlorine bleach and of course the washer usually stinks, LOL.

 

Only good news is on these WP built washers you can buy the spider without the tub for about $100.

 

I would hate the thought of wearing any of the mold and bacteria laden clothing that was washed in these washers, YUCK


Post# 668865 , Reply# 2   3/28/2013 at 10:49 (4,045 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
if this ever happens to my duet its going to be replace not

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If ever this happens to my 2004 duet thats going to be 10 years old this summer its going to be replace not repaired

Post# 668923 , Reply# 3   3/28/2013 at 19:20 (4,045 days old) by Limey ()        
Corrosion & Fracturing of Duet Sport and He2 Spiders

combo52
Thank you for that.
I guess that Whirlpool's change of material and geometric design of spider (cross piece) did not solve the problem(s) as per pages 18 and 19 at the link below.


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Post# 668999 , Reply# 4   3/29/2013 at 02:42 (4,044 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Now isn't that interesting

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especially when you compare it too the LG Explo-Do machines situation. People are starting to band together and stand up for their consumer rights.

 

 


Post# 669000 , Reply# 5   3/29/2013 at 03:00 (4,044 days old) by Limey ()        
Duet Sport & He2 Spider Fractures

combo52
Have you seen any of these spiders that have fractured but have no corrosion?

I understand that some of the larger WP built machines have a spider similar to that in the that in the 'Sports/He2's' have you seen any of those fractured and/or corroded?
Thank you.


Post# 669016 , Reply# 6   3/29/2013 at 07:41 (4,044 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Broken Spiders

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I have never seen a broken spider on any brand or model washer that broke that was not pretty corroded, I an sure that it could happen but I would guess that it is pretty rare.

 

I looked over the information in the lawsuit from the link you posted, interesting stuff but I can see no liability on WPs part except they and many other parties are guilty of not properly instructing owners how to use an automatic washer.

 

When working washers every day I see machines where I know the spider will NEVER break and we go to the house next door and the same type washer is a GROSS mess of stinky mold and slime.

 

Unfortunately clothing manufactures, Consumer Reports, Utility companies and the washer manufacturer themselves are to blame for not instructing owners how to use a washer. If an owner wants to sue WP the broken machine should be cut apart and the pieces should be passed around to the jury and if they pass the smell test, LOL.


Post# 669024 , Reply# 7   3/29/2013 at 09:10 (4,044 days old) by Limey ()        
Broken Spiders

combo52,
I have only ever come across one thread, originating in the UK, where the poster claimed to have seen several fractured spiders with no corrosion. Said poster however did not respond to my query regarding make and model details.
As for WP liability we will let the court(s) decide should it, or similar case(s), ever go to trial.
I found it interesting because it is the first evidence that I have seen that any manufacturer has tried to do anything about it. 'It' being foul odors in this case, the corrosion detail seems to have been more of an incidental than the main cause for the suite. Incidentally I do not believe that the corrosion is all inter granular, and Dr Wilson, for the plaintiffs, did, according to the judge, make mention of 'other corrosion'.
Now from our other exchanges I know you have seen far more machines than I, but have you seen a spider of similar shape to those in the 'Sports' and He2's but in the larger Whirlpool machines? I ask because I believe one is available and they do look as though 'drainage', as Whirlpool call it, would be improved leading to less likelihood of foul odors and corrosion.
I have also seen photographs of spiders from Whirlpool machine built after 2008, which although 'different' to the older designs do not impress me with their 'drainage' arrangements, indeed I do not think they exist!
I look forward to your comments.



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