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Post# 670139   4/3/2013 at 02:17 (1,636 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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I recently acquired a Whirlpool portable dryer, 3 Cycle, Cool Down Care for No Iron Permanent Press Fabrics. Mod LAE 490 Serial # 9001M41602120. It works and in good shape, seems to be either a very dark Almond, or light Harvest Gold color. I suppose it's around 20-25 years old. It's going to need a few things, such as a cycle knob, a new lint screen insert and whatever else to cure a squeaking sound.  Haven't found any information on it so far on the net. 

 

Can anyone tell me anything about this dryer?

 

 Pictures will follow.

Thanks in advance!




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Post# 670249 , Reply# 1   4/3/2013 at 13:26 (1,636 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Post# 670271 , Reply# 2   4/3/2013 at 15:28 (1,636 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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LAE is 1974-1975 model year.

M416 should be 16th week of 1974.

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Post# 670298 , Reply# 3   4/3/2013 at 17:53 (1,635 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Wow, THANKS DADoES!!!

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It's much older than I thought. The biggest issue will be finding the dial. It seems to be somewhat prevalent with these dryers. I wonder why so many are missing them. Poorly made? Anyway, thanks a million!


Post# 671375 , Reply# 4   4/8/2013 at 14:01 (1,631 days old) by TwinTubber (Toronto)        
Well made little dryers.....

They dry very well and last if well cared for.
I have a modern version of that as my daily driver.


Post# 672247 , Reply# 5   4/12/2013 at 15:57 (1,627 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Well, tore down the dryer completely...

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The amount of lint, dust, crud was amazing. I guess it was never cleaned. Went through every inch. It's surprisingly rust free. So it now has a new filter, belt, idler assembly and drum rollers. The motor is fine, my dad looked it over. I'll be reassembling it tonight.

 

The control knob/dial is proving to be elusive, but hope springs eternal. For those wondering what it looks like:

 

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Part ID # 687638

 

If anyone knows where I can find one, drop me a line. I also would like to find the owners manual. 

 

@ Scott, I agree, they sure seem well built. Looking forward to using it! 

 


Post# 672248 , Reply# 6   4/12/2013 at 15:59 (1,627 days old) by RevvinKevin (Between Mickey Mouse & the Queen Mary (So. Cal.)        
Any photos?

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Photos please?

 

Thanks!


Post# 672282 , Reply# 7   4/12/2013 at 17:17 (1,627 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Yours Sounds Similar To Mine

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But maybe a later model:

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Post# 672375 , Reply# 8   4/13/2013 at 03:09 (1,626 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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It seems they are twins Mrs Bucket. Mine is Harvest Gold as well. Smile

 

Kevin, I am taking pictures and a video, stay tuned. 


Post# 672376 , Reply# 9   4/13/2013 at 03:12 (1,626 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Newspaper Ad from April 29, 1974

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I had no idea they were known as "Thin Twin". 

 

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Post# 672492 , Reply# 10   4/13/2013 at 15:31 (1,626 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

Nice ad: One of my friends had that exact set growing up. The washer had the bristle brush Magic Mix type lint filter. I see on the ad that it says this washer model "automatically filters out lint", which would indicate this one self cleans, but then again it may not. At the very least then, it looks just like the one his mom had.

Post# 672495 , Reply# 11   4/13/2013 at 15:35 (1,626 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        
Meant To Specify:

I was talking about the full size set of LAA/LAE5800s

Post# 672508 , Reply# 12   4/13/2013 at 16:36 (1,626 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Would Love To Find One Of Those Stands

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As seen in the advert, but they must not have been very long lasting as never seem to turn up. Maytag amoung others that had portable/compact lines of the period offered them as well.

Post# 674320 , Reply# 13   4/21/2013 at 03:32 (1,618 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
The dryer is nearly finished

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Just need the dial/knob. Took the pictures, made a short vid. Plus there is a surprise. I'll upload everything tonight. Stay tuned!


Post# 674785 , Reply# 14   4/22/2013 at 21:37 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Whirlpool LAE 4900L1

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Post# 674787 , Reply# 16   4/22/2013 at 21:39 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Paper cut out I made to see the cycles. New dial on it's way! Thanks John (Combo52)!

 

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Post# 674788 , Reply# 17   4/22/2013 at 21:40 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Post# 674789 , Reply# 18   4/22/2013 at 21:42 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Post# 674790 , Reply# 19   4/22/2013 at 21:42 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Post# 674791 , Reply# 20   4/22/2013 at 21:43 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Cleaned up rear

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Post# 674792 , Reply# 21   4/22/2013 at 21:44 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Post# 674794 , Reply# 22   4/22/2013 at 21:45 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
New foam gasket, original had turned to dust.

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Post# 674797 , Reply# 25   4/22/2013 at 21:47 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Post# 674798 , Reply# 26   4/22/2013 at 21:48 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Post# 674799 , Reply# 27   4/22/2013 at 21:49 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Post# 674800 , Reply# 28   4/22/2013 at 21:50 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Post# 674803 , Reply# 29   4/22/2013 at 21:54 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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I've decided to replace the rear drum seal and the seal & bearing assembly. Both are on order. Any ideas how can I remove the old cement? 

 

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Post# 674804 , Reply# 30   4/22/2013 at 21:55 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Post# 674805 , Reply# 31   4/22/2013 at 21:56 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
New lint filter

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Post# 674807 , Reply# 32   4/22/2013 at 21:58 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
And under the top...

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I have removed both for safe keeping. 

 

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Post# 674809 , Reply# 33   4/22/2013 at 21:58 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Post# 674811 , Reply# 34   4/22/2013 at 22:00 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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After a good vacuuming, some compressed air and ammonia...

 

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Post# 674812 , Reply# 35   4/22/2013 at 22:01 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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New drum rollers and idler pulley. 

 

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Post# 674813 , Reply# 36   4/22/2013 at 22:03 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Eeeeeek!!!

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Post# 674814 , Reply# 37   4/22/2013 at 22:05 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Never seen flat casters before...

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Post# 674815 , Reply# 38   4/22/2013 at 22:05 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Much better!

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Post# 674817 , Reply# 39   4/22/2013 at 22:06 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
New caster goodness...

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Post# 674825 , Reply# 40   4/22/2013 at 22:40 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
First test run...

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Yeah, I'm using that awful indoor vent contraption. Only temporary while I break through an exterior brick wall so it can be properly ventilated. The noise you hear is a bad idler pulley, has been replaced.
 







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Post# 674829 , Reply# 41   4/22/2013 at 22:56 (1,616 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Nice!


Post# 674834 , Reply# 42   4/22/2013 at 23:35 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Better...

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Post# 674835 , Reply# 43   4/22/2013 at 23:41 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Thanks DADoES

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I still need a few more things to complete the Whirlpool, the aforementioned Dial, rear drum seal and the seal and bearing assembly. I also ordered some Harvest Gold touch up paint.  Tongue out


Post# 674836 , Reply# 44   4/23/2013 at 00:00 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
But WAIT! There's MORE!

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Last Sunday I found this little beauty by the compactor of my building...needless to say, another one saved...I present to you a Lady Kenmore Compact Dryer, Mod. # 110.88090800, Serial # M14620853:

 

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Post# 674837 , Reply# 45   4/23/2013 at 00:02 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
In good shape...

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A little grungy.

 

 

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Post# 674838 , Reply# 46   4/23/2013 at 00:04 (1,616 days old) by Northwesty (Renton, WA)        
looks to be in excellent condition

nice job!

Post# 674839 , Reply# 47   4/23/2013 at 00:04 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Cleaned the rear already...

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The power cord is new, as usual the original was cut off. 

 

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Post# 674840 , Reply# 48   4/23/2013 at 00:05 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks Brian!


Post# 674841 , Reply# 49   4/23/2013 at 00:07 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
The dusty timer...works perfect.

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Post# 674843 , Reply# 50   4/23/2013 at 00:09 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
I found over $4.00 in change in that filth.

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Post# 674845 , Reply# 51   4/23/2013 at 00:13 (1,616 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Congrats those are very nice dryers. In the early 1980's I lived in New Orleans it was not unusual to see these dryers running on balconies in apartment complexes. It was a time period when surroundings had got bad enough that people were reluctant to use common laundry rooms. But way before most apartments had w/d hookups. They must of sold a ton of them in some regions. alr

Post# 674846 , Reply# 52   4/23/2013 at 00:14 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
The motor was basically seized, just hummed when I tried it.

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But a good vacuuming, a blast of compressed air, and a few drops of oil for 1/4 HP motors, it's now spinning like a top. 

 

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Post# 674848 , Reply# 53   4/23/2013 at 00:19 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Thanks Alr...

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They just fell onto my lap. They are both sturdy machines. But the Whirlpool, which is much older, seems slightly better built.


Post# 674849 , Reply# 54   4/23/2013 at 00:20 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
This was completely clogged...

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Post# 674850 , Reply# 55   4/23/2013 at 00:21 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Cleaner...waiting for the ammonia treatment...

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Post# 674851 , Reply# 56   4/23/2013 at 00:22 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Kissing cousins...

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Post# 674853 , Reply# 57   4/23/2013 at 00:30 (1,616 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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The Kenmore has so far gotten new casters, a new power cord, and has been mostly cleaned. I've ordered a tune-up kit (Rear roller drums, idler pulley and belt), a door gasket, a door latch and almond touch up paint. Along with the Kenmore was a rather nice, early 80's Hotpoint Side by side refrigerator, in almond too. I also found something rather unusual that I brought home as well. But THAT merits it's own thread. Wink

 

I will continue to post updates for both dryers. 


Post# 675075 , Reply# 58   4/23/2013 at 23:22 (1,615 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Some parts arrived today...

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The door gasket for the Kenmore, and the Seal Bearing assembly for the Whirlpool...oh and some "Golden Harvest" touch up paint. I thought I was getting NOS paint, but it seems recently manufactured. 


Post# 675077 , Reply# 59   4/23/2013 at 23:49 (1,615 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Kenmore, missing door gasket...

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Post# 675078 , Reply# 60   4/23/2013 at 23:51 (1,615 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Kenmore, test fit new gasket...

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Post# 675116 , Reply# 61   4/24/2013 at 07:19 (1,615 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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lol now all you need to fine are the matching washers to these beautys great save

Post# 675210 , Reply# 62   4/24/2013 at 15:01 (1,615 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Thanks Pierre...

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You know it's funny, I was thinking about the matching washers as well. But space IS limited...I told hubby the dryers are really fashionable, industrial design nightstands but he's not buying it. 

 

In other news the rest of the parts arrived today, so it looks like I'm going to be busy tonight! 

 


 


Post# 675227 , Reply# 63   4/24/2013 at 15:57 (1,615 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Portable Dryers As Nightstands

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Trust me that is how they have been used/stored! *LOL*

Have seen many such units in apartments all over NYC including Staten Island located in bedrooms or some such with perhaps a tablecloth draped over used as a night stand or table. When needed the cloth came off and the thing wheeled to the nearest window (to stick the hose out of), and put to use.


Post# 675230 , Reply# 64   4/24/2013 at 16:01 (1,615 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Great work!

Always wondered about cleaning out/up the insides of my Whirlpool compact dryer but our repairman told us to leave it alone. Did clean out the filter housing upon purchase (yuck), and continue to do so once a month. Have one of those dryer vent small brushes and also use the vacuum as well.

While not very high on heating wattage, these dryers will get the job done especially if not over loaded. Aside from fragile or some such items all washing going to ours gets a trip through the spin dryer first. Spinning towels and anything else that can withstand the treatment at 2800rpms for several minutes does ease the work on dryer.


Post# 675238 , Reply# 65   4/24/2013 at 16:15 (1,615 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
I strongly suggest you open up your dryer...

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You'd be shocked on the amount of lint that collects in there. Also the vent right after the lint filter gets clogged. It's really simple to open the dryer, just unscrew the top row of the rear panel, push forward the top, slides right off. To remove the front panel, unscrew the two top screws inside the cabinet. Make sure you unplug all the wire leads, mark them or take some pictures so you know what goes where. Once that is done, lift the front panel up, it will unclip. You may ask for help in removing the drum (first disconnect the belt. Now you have access to vacuum and shoot some compressed air in and around the motor. 




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Post# 675244 , Reply# 66   4/24/2013 at 16:25 (1,615 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Thanks for the tip!

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If one is going to ask for help may as well call someone in to do the job! *LOL*

The repair person who gave us the above advice was not the one we use now, so maybe will see what our "Miele" guy has to say. Did try taking the back off the unit in an attempt to "clean" once, but saw nothing and that was that. At least looking at your pictures above explains why we saw "nothing", and what really nees to be done.


Post# 675261 , Reply# 67   4/24/2013 at 17:21 (1,615 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
Great Finds! Those will last and last and last...

Those are the simplest, easiest and some of the best built dryers you will find. Not many are in my area since the norm is full sized but those certainly are a conviniance regardless. Been looking for one for a while just to compliment my full size Maytag. The element is only in the 1500 watts (give or take a few hundred), but with small loads it really doesnt matter.

Out of curiosity, what is the 3rd knob for on the lady Kenmore? And it looks like it has electronic dryness as well?


Post# 675270 , Reply# 68   4/24/2013 at 17:54 (1,614 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Thanks Robert!

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I got these for the time being, I do have the space (and turns out) the voltage for a full size dryer. I've learned quite a bit from them. The button on the far right of the Kenmore is a "Heat", "Air" selector. I suppose you can select air only for any of the drying cycles. Oh, and the Kenmore has the dreaded end of cycle buzzer. Scared the hell out of me. The Whirlpool thankfully does not. 


Post# 675273 , Reply# 69   4/24/2013 at 18:03 (1,614 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
End of Cycle Buzzer

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Our Whirlpool has it also and yes nearly had a heart attack the first time it went off! *LOL*

Sadly per the owner's manual there is no way to disconnect the thing so one simply makes sure to get to the dryer before it goes off. Not so much a worry during daylight hours but if running the dryer late at night that buzzer can wake the sleeping, if not the dead!


Post# 675287 , Reply# 70   4/24/2013 at 19:12 (1,614 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Whirlpool: The previous owner decided to unwisely glue the broken catch instead of replacing it. I managed to remove the old catch and now I have this ugly cement residue. Any ideas on how to remove it? 

 

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Kenmore: Easy fix, new pin and catch. Also, notice the Whirlpool above has rubber bumpers on the door, the Kenmore does not. 

 

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Post# 675289 , Reply# 71   4/24/2013 at 19:27 (1,614 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Usually Acetone

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Or any type of solvent, but I'd take care about the paint and or finish. Of course since the is an appliance that heats you'd want to remove any residue of whatever is used to essure against flame hazard and fumes.

Post# 675343 , Reply# 72   4/24/2013 at 23:41 (1,614 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        

The cycle buzzers on Whirlpool/Kenmore portables are beyond annoying, but they can easily be disconnected without worry by pulling off one of the leads and taping it.

On a side side note, would you happen to have the wiring diagram to the Kenmore as with the Whirlpool? The extra wires on the timer have me intrigued LOL.

Thanks for the Pics!!!


Post# 675346 , Reply# 73   4/25/2013 at 00:10 (1,614 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Tablecloth disguise for a dryer or portable washer-reminds me of at college-some students DID bring such units to their dorms that had running water-the dorm room had a real bathroom-was really an apartment of sorts.They disguised their machines with tablecloths or plywood boards-use the thing as a desk if it is not used as a washer or dryer-the washer was one of those Hoover or Maytag twin tub machines.Boards or tablecloths could hide them quite well.

Post# 675357 , Reply# 74   4/25/2013 at 02:12 (1,614 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Kenmore update...

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New foam gasket. The opening is sightly different in the Whirlpool. 

 

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Post# 675358 , Reply# 75   4/25/2013 at 02:15 (1,614 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Does anyone know why this mesh (behind the lint filter) is present? The Whirlpool has it as well. This was totally clogged with lint and was a real chore to clean. 

 

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Post# 675359 , Reply# 76   4/25/2013 at 02:16 (1,614 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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All spiffy here.

 

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Post# 675360 , Reply# 77   4/25/2013 at 02:18 (1,614 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Almost done.

 

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Post# 675361 , Reply# 78   4/25/2013 at 02:21 (1,614 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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The drum has a few areas where the paint was worn away smooth. 

 

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Post# 675362 , Reply# 79   4/25/2013 at 02:23 (1,614 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Even I was surprised on how shiny it turned out.

 

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Post# 675363 , Reply# 80   4/25/2013 at 02:51 (1,614 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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I decided to install the the drum rear seal originally destined for the Whirlpool on the Kenmore. The Kenmore's was beginning to fray. Now I have to order another one, just when I thought I was done!

 

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Post# 675366 , Reply# 81   4/25/2013 at 03:34 (1,614 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
The first test since reassembly...

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I don't know, but the motor sure is noisy. 
 





Post# 675404 , Reply# 82   4/25/2013 at 09:14 (1,614 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Compact WP Built Dryers

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Great progress Louie. The Rabbit wire screen behind the lint filter is there to prevent clothing from getting caught in the blower wheel if someone forgets to reinstall the filter.

 

As suggested by Robert it is very easy to unplug the buzzer and tape the loose wire, leave the other wire in place [ if this were my dryer I would have never heard that buzzer twice, LOL ]


Post# 675440 , Reply# 83   4/25/2013 at 13:38 (1,614 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
Shiny!

The Kenmore came out great! The felt seals are something to always have plenty of, in my experience, I just change the seal everytime I rebuild a dryer. Saves another take apart when the seal fails sooner than expected.

Listening above to the Kenmore run the motor does seem noisier than it should be. Considering it looks like an older cemented frame motor I would considering replaceing it with a new one, portable dryers are no fun when loud. Repair clinic still offeres the parts for these dryers, which is a huge help when thet do act up.


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Post# 675445 , Reply# 84   4/25/2013 at 14:09 (1,614 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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excellent find and work Louie......one minute nothing, and then they all pile up in one day.....like I said a thousand times, get one, more will follow.....

would be nice to find at least one matching washer....their spin speed is around 900RPM for the portables...which is a help to the low wattage dryer...perfect matched mate....

or keep or eyes out for a twintub or spinner.....

I have been playing with the spinner of my TT.....after a load in the filterflo, I am getting 6 cups of water from a 5 minute spin......and 3 cups from the Cabrio.....that's alot of water for a dryer to remove from a load...

even an extra final spin in the Maytag will help drying too...


Post# 675452 , Reply# 85   4/25/2013 at 15:54 (1,614 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks John. I was wondering about the "rabbit wire screen", but I sure wish they had designed it for cleaning in mind. 


Post# 675455 , Reply# 86   4/25/2013 at 15:59 (1,614 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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I think I am going to replace the motor Robert (Sheesh, somebody STOP me), I really don't care for that noise. The Whirlpool is so much quieter and the motor is at least 10 years older. I will disable the buzzer on the Kenmore as suggested. Thanks!


Post# 675457 , Reply# 87   4/25/2013 at 16:02 (1,614 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
So true Martin...

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I've got the bug now, I wouldn't be too surprised if another compact turned up, LOL. But still, a full size matching Maytag dryer is on my wish list. Smile


Post# 675531 , Reply# 88   4/25/2013 at 20:24 (1,613 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
Sheesh, somebody STOP me

Im afraid the only cure is to give in to the urge LOL. Considering that dryer will go another 15 years the motor is well worth it in the end.

In all honesty your thread is making me go hunt for one of those little portables. And oh, if you do end up with more and eventually decide to sell; those portables are big bucks and in high demand regardless of anything around apartment areas. Youd be surprised a few towns over from where I live. Even with apartments over there with on site laundry you get folks sneaking in portables (especially when electric and water are included...) :)


Post# 675547 , Reply# 89   4/25/2013 at 22:55 (1,613 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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They seem to be fairly prevalent in my area. Found 2 within weeks of each other. 


Post# 675590 , Reply# 90   4/26/2013 at 08:11 (1,613 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
HEY LOUIE WHERE DO I SEND THE NEW KNOB FOR YOUR DRYER

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My neighbor across the hall was getting rid of his 1977 compact laundry pair and I snagged the knob of the dryer for you. It has the proper markings although part of the word press in permeant press is a little worn off. Still the knob is in really decent shape.....just ell me where to send it ...PAT COFFEY


Post# 675610 , Reply# 91   4/26/2013 at 11:22 (1,613 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
GREAT thread Louie

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I have really enjoyed reading this thread. There is something about saving an appliance from the trash, then enjoying it that to me is really satisfying to do myself, or read about someone else's triumph.

Great job on the dryers! I have so enjoyed looking at these and reading your updates that this little bugger saw fit to hop into my truck yesterday for the ride home. Thanks for the bit of inspiration. Not sure when I'll get to work on it, but it is home.

Gordon


Post# 675627 , Reply# 92   4/26/2013 at 13:05 (1,613 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Thank you Pat!

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A matching pair! Too bad I'm too far off or I would have rescued them myself. I'll sent you a PM. Thanks again!




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Post# 675633 , Reply# 93   4/26/2013 at 13:20 (1,613 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Glad you're enjoying it Gordon!

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Wow! That is a BEAUTY, and in avocado! Aren't they great "little" machines? What year is it? Looking forward in seeing your progress on it! 




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Post# 675644 , Reply# 94   4/26/2013 at 14:01 (1,613 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Whirlpool Dryer Update:

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New Seal & Bearing assembly installed. 

 

 

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Post# 675685 , Reply# 95   4/26/2013 at 18:24 (1,612 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Owner's and shop manuals...

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Anyone know where I can get the owner's and shop manuals for the Whirlpool and the Kenmore?


Post# 675797 , Reply# 96   4/27/2013 at 11:47 (1,612 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Kenmore motor sparked...

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I decided to run the Kenmore sans drum and when I pushed the start button, a small spark came out of the motor. That's it, this motor is history. I wonder it being so loud (and running hot) was some sort of a warning. It seems ebay is the best place to get a brand new OEM Made in USA motor for $80 with free shipping. 


Post# 676360 , Reply# 97   4/30/2013 at 02:05 (1,609 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Small Whirlpool Update...

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Being the picky Virgo that I am, I decided to completely remove the motor, blower and shroud to give them a more detailed cleaning. 

 

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Post# 676361 , Reply# 98   4/30/2013 at 02:10 (1,609 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Now under the heating element, you can see the paper shielding (Asbestos?) is badly deteriorated. I've decided to completely remove it and replace it with a "L" shaped metal shield like being used on the Kenmore (See post #77).

 

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Post# 676362 , Reply# 99   4/30/2013 at 02:11 (1,609 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Spiffy!

 

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Post# 676363 , Reply# 100   4/30/2013 at 02:13 (1,609 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Dude, where did my motor go?

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Post# 676364 , Reply# 101   4/30/2013 at 02:14 (1,609 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
That's it for now...

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Post# 676752 , Reply# 102   5/2/2013 at 05:30 (1,607 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Kenmore Updates:

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Post# 676758 , Reply# 108   5/2/2013 at 05:38 (1,607 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Kenmore Updates:

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Post# 676759 , Reply# 109   5/2/2013 at 05:39 (1,607 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Post# 676760 , Reply# 110   5/2/2013 at 05:39 (1,607 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Knobby goodness!

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Post# 676762 , Reply# 111   5/2/2013 at 05:45 (1,607 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Whirlpool Test Video

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New rear seal installed. Is it me...or does the drum revolve faster now? 
 




Post# 676764 , Reply# 112   5/2/2013 at 05:55 (1,607 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Nothing like a clean, clean dryer to quietly dry your clothes with maximum efficiency! Great job!

Post# 676777 , Reply# 113   5/2/2013 at 08:09 (1,607 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Nice refurb!!


Post# 676813 , Reply# 114   5/2/2013 at 12:04 (1,607 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Post #676758 should read WHIRLPOOL updates: Not Kenmore

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Sorry about that. 


Post# 676814 , Reply# 115   5/2/2013 at 12:06 (1,607 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks Allen!

Thanks DADoES!


Post# 677511 , Reply# 116   5/5/2013 at 19:18 (1,603 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Whirlpool, final reassembly.

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Post# 677512 , Reply# 117   5/5/2013 at 19:22 (1,603 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
New heat shield made and installed.

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Post# 677519 , Reply# 119   5/5/2013 at 19:30 (1,603 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Final Test before closing it up.

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Post# 677525 , Reply# 122   5/5/2013 at 19:34 (1,603 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Ready for duty, SIR!

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Post# 677527 , Reply# 123   5/5/2013 at 19:37 (1,603 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Up next...

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The Kenmore gets a new front seal and bearing assembly. Plus a brand new motor. 


Post# 677583 , Reply# 124   5/6/2013 at 00:33 (1,603 days old) by badgerdx ()        

You are insane. That is an amazing refurb job. I expect that's the best those machines have been since the week they came out of the factory. Congrats...

Post# 677591 , Reply# 125   5/6/2013 at 01:59 (1,603 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Thanks Bob!

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I DO try...:) I should be done with the Kenmore soon, then I'll go back to the range hood.


Post# 677613 , Reply# 126   5/6/2013 at 07:40 (1,603 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Restored Compact Dryers

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You are amazing Louie those machines look like and work like new, if you get bored you can come down and work on appliances for us anytime. It make me envious that you can concentrate your energy on one or two appliances at a time, I feel spread thin trying to work on all the appliances here and do our daily appliance repair work as well.

 

Last week I bought 40+ SQ washers and dryers 1/2 FL and the rest dryers from a government installation, they are all 4 years old and in good shape but they will still all have to be checked out cleaned and tested before being resold.


Post# 677616 , Reply# 127   5/6/2013 at 07:44 (1,603 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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John is right, you're amazing Louie! What a great job on the WP dryer, you really made it like new again. Congrats on a job well done!

Post# 677628 , Reply# 128   5/6/2013 at 08:49 (1,603 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta Georgia )        
superb

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..I'm looking at the insides with starry eyes and looking at the outside with "is that all there is?". (I nearly picked up a Lady Kenmore like this, but thought it was plain..oh well.)

What a beautiful job and thanks for the fine coverage in photos and videos.

Now, with your luck, along will come the matching pairs to these.

Phil


Post# 677668 , Reply# 129   5/6/2013 at 13:37 (1,603 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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@ John, Thanks! If I lived nearer I'd take you up on your offer! 

 

@ Gan, Thanks! It's really satisfying putting something back into service that otherwise was going to be scraped. Specially something that is better built than it's modern counterparts. 

 

@ Phil, Thanks! They're really simple machines to work on. A washer is a whole other matter, but I'm game!


Post# 677750 , Reply# 130   5/6/2013 at 18:17 (1,602 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Small Kenmore Update:

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New front seal and bearing installed. 

 

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Post# 677756 , Reply# 131   5/6/2013 at 18:40 (1,602 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Kenmore Update:

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New motor has arrived! Yay!

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Post# 677757 , Reply# 132   5/6/2013 at 18:44 (1,602 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        
Motor HP

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the higher rating won't change a thing. As long as the RPM is the same you will never know. Perhaps this one will have a bit more torque but you are likely to never tell the difference.

I am still bewildered at just how you get your appliances SO clean! Starting to think you are adding reflective glints with Photoshop to make them look shinier ;)


Post# 677761 , Reply# 133   5/6/2013 at 19:17 (1,602 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Hey thanks Phil...

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was concerned it was going to have a higher RPM and thus wear out the other parts prematurely. As for cleaning them, ammonia, a good degreaser and turpentine (followed with a clear water rinse) is all I used.  


Post# 677762 , Reply# 134   5/6/2013 at 19:27 (1,602 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
New 1/3 HP Motor

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Will work fine, it will make the dryer consume about 150 watts more power so if the dryer is being operated on a 15 Amp fuse it taxes it a little more. The extra power consumed does assist the drying a little as the waste heat from the motor gets drawn through the drum so if you do a very careful time-drying-speed measurement you should find that the dryer with the higher Amp motor actually dries a little faster.

 

The other thing you must do is use the original motor pulley, the pulley that comes with the 279827 motor is meant for the larger drum in the 29" dryers and if you use that pulley for the little 24" dryer the drum will tumble too fast and the clothing will actually dry slower and much more wrinkled because the clothing will cling to the dryer drum and not tumble properly, proper tumbling can make or break a dryers performance.


Post# 677772 , Reply# 135   5/6/2013 at 20:24 (1,602 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Thanks John

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I did notice the pulley was a bit larger. I'll swap it out with the old one.


Post# 677807 , Reply# 136   5/7/2013 at 00:28 (1,602 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
I'm doomed

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Tried to take off the blower wheel on the Kenmore, and it wouldn't budge.  Long story short, I need a new one (part # 345317) So far no dice online except for a used one. If anyone knows where I can get new one, please let me know. Thanks. 

 

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Post# 677900 , Reply# 137   5/7/2013 at 10:34 (1,602 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Louie -

I looked at every place I could think of. Google doesn't offer many suggestions other than a couple websites that show the worthless information of "NLA" along with a price. I even called one of the companies and asked "Why do you quote a price online of something that is NLA?" The answer was "well the screen does say it is NLA". This part must have been discontinued some time ago.

One thought --- since WP is basically still making the same dryer, could the new blower they're using today be re-engineered to fit the older models, especially since you need a new motor anyway?

Someone with a recent model number would be able to help us start researching, and someone with any experience (John?) on the newer versions would know if a new motor and blower are "transplantable" into an older machine.

I will try to get us a model number from the Sears outlet --- it is on my way home from work and they usually have one or two of these dryers on the floor for sale.

Good luck Louie!

Gordon


Post# 677917 , Reply# 138   5/7/2013 at 11:57 (1,602 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
LDR3822PQ

This is the newer 120volt compact version that is being made today. There is a similar compact 240volt version as well LER3622PQ. Both these models are very, very similar in design (some parts are totally interchangeable) to the older compact models. The blower wheel part number for the newest current versions is 696426. However being honest I have no idea if it will fit in the older Kenmore blower housing. My guess is it should, but that's just my opinion. It will fit the newer drive motor shaft without a problem, but again, however the blower housing in unknown to me.

Parts sheet: www.whirlpool.com/digital...


Post# 677919 , Reply# 139   5/7/2013 at 12:01 (1,602 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        

This part sheet is closer to the Kenmore in age and design:


www.whirlpool.com/digital...



Post# 677928 , Reply# 140   5/7/2013 at 12:29 (1,602 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Wow Gordon! Thank you so much!

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I will definitely look into your suggestions, and I'll give John a call as well. Thanks again!


Post# 677984 , Reply# 141   5/7/2013 at 16:38 (1,602 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Gordon, I found the part!

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First I went to my parts guy, he had the modern equivalent, it indeed fits the Kenmore, but he wanted way too much money. Even more expensive than online. So no thanks. BUT, I  happened to find the ORIGINAL OEM part, online and ordered it. So crisis solved. Thanks for all your help!


Post# 677996 , Reply# 142   5/7/2013 at 17:37 (1,601 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        

Glad you found the part is interchangeable!!! Post pics when the rebuild starts back up :))

Post# 678073 , Reply# 143   5/8/2013 at 01:40 (1,601 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
I sure will Gordon!

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Post# 678074 , Reply# 144   5/8/2013 at 01:43 (1,601 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Kenmore Motor Pulley's

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The pulley on the new motor is ever so slightly larger than the pulley of the old motor.

 

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Post# 678144 , Reply# 145   5/8/2013 at 11:13 (1,601 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Blower Wheel For Compact WP Built Dryer

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Louie I  would bet that the current blower for 24" dryers and TTs would fit, but the bigger question is why not use the good used one you have?. In over 40 years of fixing these dryers I have NEVER seen one of these blowers fail on a compact dryer, this is one place where the used one may be better than new, it would certainly be more environmentally responsible.


Post# 678162 , Reply# 146   5/8/2013 at 13:17 (1,601 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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I had to break off the old one John. I have no choice, it had to be replaced. But I ordered a replacement, exactly like the one I broke off.


Post# 678203 , Reply# 147   5/8/2013 at 18:11 (1,600 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
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Sorry I guess I read your posts wrong, I thought you said you already had an extra used one, I do have dozens of good used ones if you or anyone ever needs another one. I have also had to cut these off as sometimes they will not budge, I always squirt penetrating oil at the blower end of the motors shaft before I even try to loosen any DD WP dryer blower so I dough that I have to cut off even one in 30 when changing a motor.


Post# 678215 , Reply# 148   5/8/2013 at 19:15 (1,600 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Penetrating oil

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Now why didn't I think of that? DOH!


Post# 678373 , Reply# 149   5/9/2013 at 13:12 (1,600 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Blower wheel update:

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 "Sorry this part was sold just before your order posted and it was our last one. we will email you if we locate another" So I'm back to square one. Oh John!!!


Post# 678405 , Reply# 150   5/9/2013 at 14:43 (1,600 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Louie -

I have been really preoccupied on another front lately, however I had sense enough the other day to look at my old 1992 Whirlpool Laundry Parts catalog about this. As I mentioned before, I had never really thought about these cool little dryers and how their miniaturized parts are "the same but different".

In my catalog, it shows both blowers, so this 'new' blower has been around for more than 20 years --- that's longer than the original. It describes both as being 7" blower fans, and since the motor shaft hasn't changed, it would make sense that the new blower would fit the old installation. THe new part's fins are curved or curled as compared to the old one, so perhaps it would improve the dryer's efficiency? That would be an interesting test actually.

There was one new blower on eBay last time I checked in the new version, and as John said, he has lots of used original ones. I LOVE re-purposing used parts that are perfectly good, but on certain projects I like using new stuff. Either way it sounds like you have good choices at your disposal.

To me, it looks like Whirlpool goofed in not linking the new blower part to the old one. Many call that "Subbing over". Whirlpool was at one time very good about subbing new parts to old ones so although the original part was NLA, SOMETHING was available that would allow the appliance to continue being used.

Check online prices for that new blower with other companies, they may beat your parts guy's price.

Good luck with whatever route you take!

Gordon


Post# 678412 , Reply# 151   5/9/2013 at 15:11 (1,600 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
Slightly off topic, but here's a story about part subs

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In the world of Kenmore washer agitators, there have been something like 8 or 10 different agitators in the original belt-drive models, but there were literally perhaps 100 different part numbers for these agitators. Tiny revisions like the addition of the "mini-fins" on the original Penta-Swirls gave the P.S. a new part number, as did a change in color from gold to white. As well, there were several changes made to the polypropylene Super Roto-Swirl, one to the sealing surface at the agitator cap, and a couple changes to the centerpost of the agitator on the underneath side. These changes caused new parts numbers to be made as well, but in these cases, the old parts all subbed over to the newest version available.

Currently, even the handful of different Straight-Vane agitator part numbers sub-over to the final version of the Roto-Swirl, so that the legions of S.V. equipped machines will still show as having an agitator available if a customer so desires.

One case where Whirlpool goofed, as I mentioned above, involves the two generations of the Penta-Vane. This agitator came out in 1973 in the original gold color. It was usable with or without an extension for the softener dispenser, and this agitator continued unchanged until summer 1981, even in gold.

In 1981, a new version of this was engineered to be white, and it had two changes made to basic agitator. First, a weep hole for air bubbles was added to the agitator skirt. Second, the little fins underneath were added to be used with the basket-mounted filter models. Other than the color, the agitator was otherwise identical to the original. When the original gold version was finally out of stock, it should have subbed over to the white version, but it never was. Thus, some poor Johnny Q Customer somewhere probably went shopping for an agitator for his 197x Kenmore with Penta-Vane and came up empty, when the white versions were on shelves and still available.

The changes in the Roto-Swirl and Straight-Vane were much more significant than these two Penta-Vanes, but those agitators subbed, whereas the P.V. didn't. Clearly, this seems like an oversight by Whirlpool as these two agitators fit in any large capacity machine from 1973 on with no issue.

I am not saying that WP royally screwed up, but this is how oversights can happen, and I think that may have happened with the compact dryer's blower wheel as well. A test of the new blower in an older model would be a fun project.

Gordon


Post# 678453 , Reply# 152   5/9/2013 at 19:54 (1,599 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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I highly suspect the new ones would fit as well Gordon, even be slightly more efficient as you suggested. I bet Whirlpool/Kenmore didn't sub over their parts because they want you to buy a new replacement appliance. Thanks for all the info Gordon, I really appreciate it. Smile


Post# 679206 , Reply# 153   5/13/2013 at 20:55 (1,595 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
I haven't forgotten...

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Been busy laying down a new floor for my sister. Hopefully I'll be back to the dryer by the end of this week.


Post# 679407 , Reply# 154   5/14/2013 at 22:00 (1,594 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        

Just wanted to add one possible theory for not subbing over could be because these dryers were only a small percentage of the full size dryers sold and thus the part number fell under the radar. Who knows.



Post# 679866 , Reply# 155   5/18/2013 at 00:56 (1,591 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Kenmore Dryer Updates:

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Final scrubbing of Kenmore dryer interior.

 

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Post# 679867 , Reply# 156   5/18/2013 at 00:57 (1,591 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Kenmore Dryer Update:

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New 1/3 HP OEM motor installed:

 

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Post# 679868 , Reply# 157   5/18/2013 at 01:02 (1,591 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Kenmore Dryer Update:

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I decided to leave the pulley that came with the new motor. After careful inspection, the pulley is the same circumference of the old motors pulley. It is however slightly wider by one ridge.

 

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Post# 679869 , Reply# 158   5/18/2013 at 01:07 (1,591 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Next, first test of new motor...

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Will I blackout NYC? Will I knock out power all the way up to Toronto? Join us next week on the same Bat Time, same Bat Channel.




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Post# 679870 , Reply# 159   5/18/2013 at 01:19 (1,591 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Nah, here's the vid...

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Runs smooth and QUIET.
 


Post# 679892 , Reply# 160   5/18/2013 at 07:40 (1,591 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
New Motor and pulley in a Compact 24" WP built Dryer

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Nice installation job Louie, it does appear in in your pictures that the old and new motor pulleys are about the same diameter. After you get these machines running check the RPMs of the drum and compare them to the other dryer and more importantly with a real load of laundry run the dryer with the door open both at the beginning of a drying cycle [ wet clothes ] and at the end of a drying cycle when the clothing is dry and see if you are getting the correct tumble patterns. If the drum is tumbling too fast it can result in slow drying and wrinkled clothing.


Post# 680292 , Reply# 161   5/20/2013 at 21:09 (1,588 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Thanks for the advice John...

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Hopefully I'll be finishing up the Kenmore tomorrow.


Post# 680442 , Reply# 162   5/21/2013 at 20:58 (1,587 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Final Kenmore Dryer Reassembly:

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New and old blower wheels.

 

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Post# 680443 , Reply# 163   5/21/2013 at 20:59 (1,587 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Final Kenmore Dryer Reassembly:

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Post# 680444 , Reply# 164   5/21/2013 at 21:00 (1,587 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Final Kenmore Dryer Reassembly:

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Post# 680445 , Reply# 165   5/21/2013 at 21:02 (1,587 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Final Kenmore Dryer Reassembly:

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Perfect fit!

 

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Post# 680448 , Reply# 166   5/21/2013 at 21:31 (1,587 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Final Kenmore Dryer Reassembly:

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The Demon Buzzer

 

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Post# 680449 , Reply# 167   5/21/2013 at 21:33 (1,587 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Final Kenmore Dryer Reassembly:

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Buh-bye buzzer!

 

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Post# 680451 , Reply# 168   5/21/2013 at 21:54 (1,587 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Final Kenmore Dryer Reassembly:

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YIKES! This is serious!
 





Post# 680456 , Reply# 169   5/21/2013 at 23:03 (1,587 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Final Kenmore Dryer Reassembly:

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First drying test, 3 wet towels. Tumbling seems OK.
 
 






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Post# 680467 , Reply# 170   5/22/2013 at 02:57 (1,587 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Final Kenmore Dryer Reassembly:

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Test drying of towels, now dry.
 




 


Post# 680468 , Reply# 171   5/22/2013 at 03:11 (1,587 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Final Kenmore Dryer Reassembly:

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Final video before closing it up.


 
 


Post# 680577 , Reply# 172   5/22/2013 at 18:54 (1,586 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Kenmore All Done!

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Post# 680578 , Reply# 173   5/22/2013 at 18:56 (1,586 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Kenmore All Done!

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Post# 680579 , Reply# 174   5/22/2013 at 18:59 (1,586 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Kenmore All Done!

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Post# 680619 , Reply# 175   5/23/2013 at 02:51 (1,586 days old) by maytog77 (wichita kansas, Historic Midtowne.)        
huh......

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I have a Kenmore thats even diffrent than that. Mine, according to my catalog is from 1978. I only paid $9.99 at a local trift store...=)

Post# 680752 , Reply# 176   5/24/2013 at 02:29 (1,585 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Sure is purdy Jason!

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Have you done any work on it?


Post# 680753 , Reply# 177   5/24/2013 at 02:32 (1,585 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
All Done!

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Today it goes to it's happy, new home!

 

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Post# 712613 , Reply# 178   11/1/2013 at 14:37 (1,424 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Don't want to start a whole new thread for this...

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Post# 712673 , Reply# 179   11/1/2013 at 19:34 (1,423 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Non Heating KM 120 Volt Dryer

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Look first at wire connections in the heater circuit, then at the 2 control thermostats, then a bad heater contact in the timer or centrifugal switch on the motor and lastly an open heating element. The 120 volt dryers almost never had a heating element failure unless a bobby pin fell on to it, Louie is that very likely around your home, LOL.


Post# 712711 , Reply# 180   11/2/2013 at 00:28 (1,423 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Thanks John!

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I'll take a look in that order. As for bobby pins I don't think so. Hat pins, well, that's another matter. :)


Post# 731671 , Reply# 181   1/29/2014 at 22:37 (1,334 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Finally got around to looking at the Kenmore. All it was a loose heating element connection. Piece of cake.

 

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Post# 731915 , Reply# 182   1/31/2014 at 00:14 (1,333 days old) by hippiedoll (tucson, arizona u.s.a.)        
ultramatic....

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you did an amazingly "OUTTA SIGHT" job on both of them cute portable dryers!!! i can't get over how good you got them both looking & working!!! to me they both are as good as new!!!

2 GREAT JOBS THERE!!!


Post# 732125 , Reply# 183   1/31/2014 at 19:56 (1,332 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Hey thanks Christina! Smile


Post# 741739 , Reply# 184   3/14/2014 at 00:55 (1,291 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Ooooops. I did it again...

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So this little fellow followed me home from Queens yesterday...

 

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ID Mod sticker missing. I suppose it's an early 80's? Any other way to accurately date this?

 

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I shudder to think what it looks like inside.

 

I know what you're thinking, I must have lost it, yet another dryer, and I didn't find this one in the trash. I PAID for it. BUT, he came with a friend...

 

 


Post# 741740 , Reply# 185   3/14/2014 at 00:59 (1,291 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Yup, that elusive vintage dryer rack.

 

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Mind you, it's very far from pristine. But with a lot of Barkeepers Friend, ammonia and elbow grease, it came out quite presentable.


Post# 741946 , Reply# 186   3/14/2014 at 19:58 (1,290 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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In reference to the last image, would anyone know where the chain is to be attached? Between the feet of the dryer and the stand or to the dryer itself?


Post# 741992 , Reply# 187   3/14/2014 at 22:08 (1,290 days old) by hippiedoll (tucson, arizona u.s.a.)        
that dryer rack looks awfully familiar......

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HA HA HA.....

i'm glad to see that this portable whirlpool dryer & dryer rack went to someone in the group, who will use it for what it was intended for and appreciate it for exactly what it is.

GOOD SAVE/SCORE THERE ULTRAMATIC!!!
;o)

p.s.
as for the chain question & where it would go, sorry i have no idea, so i can't help you with an answer. i'm just barely even learning about these portables myself!!!
:o)


Post# 742006 , Reply# 188   3/15/2014 at 00:18 (1,290 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks Christina, and yes, this was the one being offered by Mike (reversajet) whom I had the pleasure of meeting.Smile


Post# 742008 , Reply# 189   3/15/2014 at 00:29 (1,290 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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You can't tell by the picture, but the rear is covered in cooking grease. Yep, this dryer lived in the kitchen.

 

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Whirlpool was still using an asbestos heat shield. Not as filthy as I thought it was going to be, mice droppings not withstanding.

 

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Belt looks fine, no fraying, no cracks.

 

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Not bad.

 

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Not bad at all.

 

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I don't think this dryer was used much.

 

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After a quick vacuuming. Rabbit cage is of course, clogged. Saving that cleaning hell for later.

 

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Post# 742029 , Reply# 190   3/15/2014 at 04:22 (1,290 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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I did try the dryer before bringing it home. Started right up, heated well and was quiet. I think all this machine is going to need is a thorough cleaning and some oiling.


Post# 742034 , Reply# 191   3/15/2014 at 06:59 (1,290 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        
Matching Kenmore washer, in white

Hi, if you travel all the way down to Buenos Aires you can get for US$ 35 (or 350 pesos) a matching washer to your Kenmore dryer. Seller says it has been stored for the last 20 years! Incredible how these things turn up locally, the unit is for 110V/60Hz. Maybe someone brought it from the States and didn't know how to connect it with a step-down transformer.

Emilio

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Post# 742043 , Reply# 192   3/15/2014 at 08:15 (1,290 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Wow!

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That Kenmore sure is a long way from home. A bit too far for me unfortunately...Smile  Muchas gracias Emilio!


Post# 742054 , Reply# 193   3/15/2014 at 09:42 (1,290 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        
De nada Ultramatic!

I don't have the slightest chance (spacewise) of storing this washer, otherwise I would immeditely buy it!

Congratulation on your restorarion of the two dryers!
Emilio



Post# 742098 , Reply# 194   3/15/2014 at 12:02 (1,290 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta Georgia )        

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I look twice or thrice at these small washers and dryers (apt size) because of this thread and your postings on these machines. Thanks for posting alot of helpful visual and text info, Louie. I wouldn't mind a pair of these - but I'd like to find a pair that weren't quite so spartan looking on the outside(if that even existed?).

Post# 742146 , Reply# 195   3/15/2014 at 13:52 (1,290 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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@thor: Thanks again Emilio. Trust me, I'm running out of space too! LOL!

 

@ovrphil: The "fanciest" versions of these machines seem to be the Lady Kenmores. These dryers with the rare windowed door must look great!   And you're very welcomed Phil, glad you're enjoying the posts. 




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Post# 742158 , Reply# 196   3/15/2014 at 14:25 (1,290 days old) by hippiedoll (tucson, arizona u.s.a.)        
i already know.....

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you're going to have this new whirlpool dryer gleaming & shining in no time, ultramatic!!!

i'm looking forward to the pictures & updates!!!

:o)


Post# 742165 , Reply# 197   3/15/2014 at 14:55 (1,290 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks again Christina! I already removed and cleaned the rabbit cage. The heating element housing and blower are next. Pics and vid coming up.


Post# 742187 , Reply# 198   3/15/2014 at 17:24 (1,290 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Meanwhile, in 1978

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Notice that a full size washer and dryer were actually cheaper than the Thin-Twins. Also note, the dryer rack style has been changed. Odd, either the rack I have is much older than the dryer, or they were still available in the 1980's.

 

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Post# 742231 , Reply# 199   3/15/2014 at 20:01 (1,289 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
WP Built Compact Dryers

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These never got very fancy, a few KM versions did get a temperature selector switch, and and 240 volt versions often got a time-temperature auto-dry cycles. The 120 volt dryers did not really need a temperature control as the maximum heat on a 120 volt dryer is not likely to ever damage clothing.

Since the DOE has required all clothes dryers sold in the last 10 years or more to have an auto dry cycle, WP opted to add the electronic sensor system that they use on many of their large to all 120 volt versions of these dryers. This feature can be added to 240 volt and gas versions of this dryer if you are handy and clever. It is also fairly easy to convert the 120 volt versions to 240 volts by changing the heating element and a few other simple wiring modifications.

Note they never made these compact dryers in 110 volts as the US switched to 115 and then to 120 volts long before these dryers were ever made.

The very rare models with the window door are a John & Jeff modification only available at extra cost, LOL.

John L.


Post# 742272 , Reply# 200   3/15/2014 at 21:15 (1,289 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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LOL! I didn't know that was a Lefever option...


Post# 742310 , Reply# 201   3/16/2014 at 02:16 (1,289 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Whirlpool '80's Dryer

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After a thorough cleaning.

 

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Post# 742593 , Reply# 202   3/17/2014 at 01:38 (1,288 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
'80's Whirlpool Dryer Reassembly

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Motor cleaned, oiled and reinstalled.

 

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Rear is complete.

 

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Post# 742595 , Reply# 203   3/17/2014 at 02:13 (1,288 days old) by hippiedoll (tucson, arizona u.s.a.)        
lookin' good......

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ultramatic, lookin' good!!! now that's what i'm talkin' about!!! i knew you were gonna get it looking all spiffied up & shining!!!

DAMN! that looks good!!!

:o)


Post# 742607 , Reply# 204   3/17/2014 at 04:30 (1,288 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks Christina! Smile Believe it or not, I plan to finish the dryer later today.


Post# 742813 , Reply# 205   3/17/2014 at 21:43 (1,287 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
'80's Whirlpool Dryer Reassembly

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I gave the dryer a short test and I noticed the heating element comes on instantly, to full power within seconds. Unlike the other dryers that are more leisurely. Was this an actual improvement in performance or are the '72 and '74 dryers need to be looked into. Wouldn't mind if they had the same performance.


Post# 742830 , Reply# 206   3/17/2014 at 23:00 (1,287 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta Georgia )        

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Louie, you gotta get that J&J mod in front on door and then in the back, so you can view your handiwork. Mirror on wall for sexy rear end shots. Sorry, couldn't resist verbage. Looking good, as usual... :-)

Post# 742862 , Reply# 207   3/18/2014 at 02:46 (1,287 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
Thanks Phil...

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Yeah, eventually am going to get that windowed door.


Post# 742865 , Reply# 208   3/18/2014 at 02:57 (1,287 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
'80's Whirlpool Dryer Reassembly

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First test run of motor after cleaning.

Notice how bright the heating element gets.

 




 

 




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Post# 742870 , Reply# 209   3/18/2014 at 03:37 (1,287 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
'80's Whirlpool Dryer Reassembly

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First test run after cleaning. Now notice the heating element. It's a lot dimmer. Like the other Whirlpools. The only thing different is that the drum has been added.

 





Post# 742871 , Reply# 210   3/18/2014 at 04:28 (1,287 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        
'80's Whirlpool Dryer Reassembly

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All finished!

 

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Couldn't resist, even though the washer is a slightly different shade and vintage.

 

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Post# 742894 , Reply# 211   3/18/2014 at 07:45 (1,287 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Another good looking portable, you'll be the king of laundry portability soon!




Post# 742920 , Reply# 212   3/18/2014 at 09:48 (1,287 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Conpact WP Dryers

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Yay another one saved Louie,

The chain that is mentioned on the racks sticker was to be attached to the wall behind the rack and to the rack to keep the whole thing from tipping over if you decide to try hanging from the open dryer door.

The newer style heater, which is much smaller in length gets much hotter than the older dryers heater where they actually used a 5600 watt 240 volt element and ran it on 120 volts, even though both types put out the exactly same 1400 watts when run on 120 volts.

John L.


Post# 742950 , Reply# 213   3/18/2014 at 11:50 (1,287 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks Gan!

 

John, any reason why the element doesn't get so hot, so quickly now that I reinstalled the drum? Check out the videos and you'll see what I mean. Without the drum, red hot super fast, with the drum, slow and dim. Did I reinstall something wrong?

 

And thanks! Looking forward to seeing you and Jeff this Saturday!


Post# 742987 , Reply# 214   3/18/2014 at 13:41 (1,287 days old) by hippiedoll (tucson, arizona u.s.a.)        
you did an amazing job!!!

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there louie!!!
WOW!!!!

and i KNEW it was just a matter of time before we see the pictures of the washer, dryer & rack all set up!!! i was actually hoping to see it soon!!! LOL.....

that little set up looks really snazzy!!!

you know, you really do an "OUTTA SIGHT" job with getting the portable dryers all spiffied up!!! i can't even imagine the great sense of accomplishment you must feel when you get done with each dryer. they look brand new!!!

thanks for sharing your progress louie.

:o)

and that is strange....
why did the heating elements get so hot & bright without the drum on??? but when you had everything assembled, the heating element didn't look as bright & hot as it did.


Post# 742993 , Reply# 215   3/18/2014 at 14:08 (1,287 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
element

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With the dis-assembled dryer for test purposes, you arent getting much, if any, airflow over the element, so it can get real hot real quick. When fully assembled with the drum installed, even if you have the door open for pictures while it's running, the blower will pull a decent amount of air over the coils, properly pulling the heat into the drum instead of letting it build up and get cherry red glowing. Then, with the door closed, you've got approx 100% of the airflow pulling air over the element. That way it may glow a bit, but not much, and the correct overall airflow from intake over the element, into the drum, thru the clothes, out the back right perf area, down to the blower and out of the cabinet will all work as designed.

It's wise to test elements and such while re-assembling, but not for long. The airflow and safety issues are wrong for more than a quick test.


Post# 743013 , Reply# 216   3/18/2014 at 15:11 (1,287 days old) by hippiedoll (tucson, arizona u.s.a.)        
that makes sense....

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thank you for the detailed explanation akronman. i can actually see it happening, the way you explained & described it. and it totally makes sense to me. thank you for making it very easy to understand. cuz i was like, "huh, how come???".

thanks again akronman.

;o)


Post# 743089 , Reply# 217   3/18/2014 at 20:14 (1,286 days old) by ultramatic (New York City)        

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Hey thanks Christina. I just love that rack. Going to make a big difference when I finally build my laundry closet.

 

You're right Mark. Makes total sense why the heating element was heating up so quickly. Thanks!

 

 


Post# 940468 , Reply# 218   5/27/2017 at 00:16 by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Well, the mid-80's Whirlpool dryer has died. According to it current owner it does nothing when switched on. It's seen heavy use without fail since it left my hands some years ago. Could it be the power switch went bad?


Post# 940480 , Reply# 219   5/27/2017 at 04:32 by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Thermal fuse.


Post# 941054 , Reply# 220   5/30/2017 at 19:17 by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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OK guys, where can I find this thermal fuse? From what I have seen online, nothing looks like to what I see. Thanks in advance.


Post# 941081 , Reply# 221   5/30/2017 at 22:50 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Dead 24" 80s WP Dryer

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If this is what we are talking about there is no TF in it. Do check the door switch however, other than that it could be a bad timer, motor, PTS Switch or broken or burnt wire.


Post# 941084 , Reply# 222   5/30/2017 at 23:45 by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks John, I will check.


Post# 945794 , Reply# 223   6/28/2017 at 22:31 by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Update. It was a broken element wire. It snapped right where it gets crimped for the exterior spade plugs. I can easily slip the wire at the other end of the crimp tab. My question is, will crimping be enough, or should I solder just as an extra precaution?


Post# 945826 , Reply# 224   6/29/2017 at 06:30 by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Fixing A Heating Element Terminal

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Hi Louie, so the dryer was running and not heating I gather from what you found wrong.

 

You can fix the element if it has the old flat steel terminals by drilling a hole through the terminal and using a small steel nut and bolt and a few steel washers, crimping probably will not work for long.

 

A picture would be really helpful as WP has used three different style terminals systems on these dryers over the years and there are different ways to fix them.

 

John L.


Post# 946698 , Reply# 225   7/4/2017 at 15:21 by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Hey John, thanks for the advice. The element snapped right at the terminal that is buried inside the ceramic insulator. There is not enough material protruding from the insulator to drill. Just enough to crimp. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

 

John, can you mail the knobs for the other dryer that I need? I can't drive down for now. Be happy to pay for the mailing. Thanks!





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