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Washer/Dryer for RV Motorhome - SQ?
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Post# 675347   4/25/2013 at 00:10 (3,990 days old) by nowayout ()        

I am looking for a decent washer/dryer set to put in a Class A Motorhome. Motorhomes typically have the horrible combo units by Splendide(washer dryer in one unit). No one likes them,

A few units have individual washer and dryers and they stack them. The majority seem to also be Splendide.

The space is all ready, the previous owners took the set out and converted it to storage. It is just over 27" wide. It is made for a stackable unit, but I could easily put in a sturdy shelf and install separates.

I would love to put in a Speed Queen set. They do make the ATE50F stacked model which could work. I would have to rewire it the make the dryer 120v. Any concerns doing that other than the obvious lack of heat and increased time to dry? Does Speen Queen make similar models that are separates and less than 27"?

Any other options that are worth considering?

Thanks for any thoughts or info.







Post# 675393 , Reply# 1   4/25/2013 at 08:24 (3,990 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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first thing you have to consider is door opening, to get these units in and out....most are a slim 25 to 27, give or take....

we had a fifth wheel, and I used a stacked GE portable pair, and they just fit thru the front door...

you may want to consider the compact whirlpool FLers...at 24inches wide and deep, may fit your needs...and the matching dryer would stack on top....just a thought...

I wonder if the dryer could be converted to LP, and hooked in with the stove/oven and heating....depending on your hookups


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Post# 675453 , Reply# 2   4/25/2013 at 15:54 (3,989 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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LG makes a nice 24 inch set OR an all in one ventless washer dryer combo.I do not at all recomend ANY front loading washer for any RV or boat. Due to the entire interior being in suspension AND there are shipping bolts to keep it from being damaged during shipment which is done on ships,trains and trucks .When I worked in the headquarters for Equator, I had to speak to customers with RVs that had the front loaders installed. The main ,,most comon problem was caused by the suspension failing from the severe vibrations of the RV or boat they were in. Because of them not being locked using the shippng bolts, the movement of the vehicles going over bumps,curb,hills and steep climbs,caused permenent damage to the machines.If you hang a five pound weight on a string and suspend it from the ceiling inside your RV and watch how it sways as you drive,you'll get a better picture of my theory. I wrote numerous RV manufacturers to make them aware of this problem and they agreed it ws a serious issue and they aren't using the front loaders as much as they did before.

 

Bottom line, if front loading washers are shipped using four evenly distributed bolts to protect them from damage, how the hell are they going to be able to operate out of suspension without getting damage? they can't


Post# 675460 , Reply# 3   4/25/2013 at 16:07 (3,989 days old) by nowayout ()        

Interesting perspective on the front load issue in an RV. I understand completely what you are saying. The problem though is that doesn't leave me much choice, especially if I need to stay at 24" wide.

Splendide is the brand that you see in the vast majority of motorhomes.

www.splendide.com/splendide_stack...

That may end up being my best choice. I wonder if they have done anything special for the front load issue?





Post# 675467 , Reply# 4   4/25/2013 at 16:10 (3,989 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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There are significant differences between an appliance being shipped on a skid and driving it down the road in an RV. The acceleration G forces placed on the appliance while affixed into the RV are generally going to be pretty tame (unless there is an accident). With the suspension and the inherent mass of the vehicle I'd wager the appliance would do just fine.

When the appliance is on a skid alone, there is no surrounding mass and suspension to prevent major shocks. The instantaneous vertical G forces of just dropping the appliance a few inches is far greater then what it would see in transit in the RV. The shipping bolts are there to protect from that kind of damage. Watch a few warehouse forklift drivers do their thing and you will see what could happen!

I'd bet that under normal transit in the RV the tub wouldn't deflect nearly as much as it does when there is an off balance load spinning in it...


Post# 675493 , Reply# 5   4/25/2013 at 17:42 (3,989 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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yeah, I would have to agree with Phil, with the suspension on a RV, you barely feel any movement while riding along the road, and the add the suspension of the machine as well....I don't see there being much damage done....the most that would have to be done is a device or clamp to keep the whole machine in place during movement so it won't slide or tilt over, just like the fridge, stove, TV, etc...

if there was that much of a concern, they wouldn't install them from the factory...

my in-laws have a ventless combo in theirs.....never an issue....I think it's the coolest thing ever.....


Post# 675497 , Reply# 6   4/25/2013 at 17:45 (3,989 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Would you be able to use one of the 24" WP all in one units with the agitator washer or even a front loading washer with the WP-made 24" dryer which is a far better built and quieter running dryer than most of the small imports. If you get the one that's made for 120 volt operation, the heating element is close to 1400 watts so it would be about as fast a 120 volt dryer as you could get and with better airflow than with most of the imports, also. If there was a lot of laundry and the motorhome was in an RV park, the laundered loads to be dried could be carried to the wash house for quick drying.

Post# 675498 , Reply# 7   4/25/2013 at 17:46 (3,989 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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If you're concerned about it, just stuff your frontloader with blankets, that will keep the suspension from being damaged.

Post# 675499 , Reply# 8   4/25/2013 at 17:46 (3,989 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Would you be able to use one of the 24" WP all in one units with the agitator washer or even a front loading washer with the WP-made 24" dryer which is a far better built and quieter running dryer than most of the small imports. If you get the one that's made for 120 volt operation, the heating element is close to 1400 watts so it would be about as fast a 120 volt dryer as you could get and with better airflow than with most of the imports, also. If there was a lot of laundry and the motorhome was in an RV park, the laundered loads to be dried could be carried to the wash house for quick drying.

Post# 675542 , Reply# 9   4/25/2013 at 21:36 (3,989 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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There are a lot of variables here so it is hard to make a perfect recommendation for you without more information. Factors to consider would be the weight of the appliances, the amount of water and HOT water they will use as well as several other important considerations.

 

I do agree that no automatic washer I have ever seen would likely be damaged by having it riding around in a motor home without the shipping braces in place.

 

If it were my choice I would get a one piece 24" WP TT with the gas dryer and use it with propane. If you want something that is more water efficient I would get a 24" FL WP washer and pair it with a separate 24" WP gas dryer installed above.


Post# 675560 , Reply# 10   4/26/2013 at 02:03 (3,989 days old) by mikeklondon (London)        
Pictures

If anyone has the time I would love to see some pictures of the RV's showing the washer / dryers. We just don't have RV's that size in the UK.

Post# 675562 , Reply# 11   4/26/2013 at 03:56 (3,989 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Equator has aquired Splendide's combos and are connected with everyone but Haire and LG. They are horrible machines and not at all reliable.The seprate dryer that Equator had was nothing but the works of their combo without the water works.So,instead of a sturdy,durable firm drum ,it had the washer dryer tub in suspension. The drums would get off the track and scrape making a loud grinding noise. Atul,the company's owner and president,would have the "tech" go out and spray the scraping area with a highly flamable WD40!!!! 

 

Equator's biggest mess up was not paying the companies they had contracts with for their parts or service. They also neglected paying Fagor for the Equator dishwashers that Fagor used to make for Atul.So,those who own the Equator dishwashers are SOL Why? Because,unless you have a true Fagor dishwasher,Fagor refuses any PARTS OR SERVICE on it. The many state by state companies that were original contractors with Atul at Equator have decided to halt any and all service on them. That includes the hundreds of RV dealerships nationwide. Here in Hawaii,NOBODY will have a thing to do with them. They owe so many companies,including those that made parts for their appliances,so much money that now most of the parts they need to ship out for repair are no longer available until they pay out the money owed to the manufacturers.Most of the parts in stock are off of scrapped faulty returned models.

 


Post# 675569 , Reply# 12   4/26/2013 at 05:33 (3,989 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I do believe one thing you would want to avoid in a motor home is a combo with a water cooled condensing system. It will overload your gray water tank quickly.

Post# 675697 , Reply# 13   4/26/2013 at 19:42 (3,988 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Would you actually run your machines while your driving down the road?....


that would be one heck of a long cord....


Post# 675993 , Reply# 14   4/28/2013 at 05:28 (3,987 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Mike

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Click on the link and eat your heart out. ;-)

www.google.nl/searchQUEST...



Post# 675994 , Reply# 15   4/28/2013 at 05:37 (3,987 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Most of those are available in the UK

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and if you searched UK ebay I bet you could pick one up for a good price, problem is getting it to the USA lol

Austin


Post# 675995 , Reply# 16   4/28/2013 at 05:40 (3,987 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Tom I wholeheartedly agree the water use would

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be quite more than you expect and I may well be wrong but I don't think you can get a washer/dryer combo that has not got water condensing, shame there is no way of getting hold of the old Hoover electron version that has a hose that blows out the back no water cooling required.

Austin


Post# 675996 , Reply# 17   4/28/2013 at 05:43 (3,987 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Austin

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Siemens and Bosch make a washer/dryer that doesn't use water to cool in the drying cycle. See this thread:

www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T...


Post# 675999 , Reply# 18   4/28/2013 at 05:57 (3,987 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
I stand corrected ...

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I was not aware of those excuse my ignorance.

Austin


Post# 676025 , Reply# 19   4/28/2013 at 09:03 (3,987 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)        

Splendide makes a vented one also


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