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Post# 104023   1/16/2006 at 06:49 (6,667 days old) by jenks318 ()        

We have been looking at the Kenmore HE 2 46472. The salesman gave the impression it is made by Whirlpool, but I have seen some information on the web that it is made by either Electrolux or Frigidaire. I am a little leary of it if they are made by Electolux or Frigidaire. I would appreciate any information about the manufacturer, as well as the importance of having an onboard water heater.




Post# 104032 , Reply# 1   1/16/2006 at 09:28 (6,666 days old) by agiflow ()        

These are Whirlpool made machines from posts i have read. These are the new 3.3 machines which are made in Mexico i believe. I don't think these machines have on-board heaters.

The Frigidaire made machines are the 3.5 capacity models. Hope that helps.


Post# 104074 , Reply# 2   1/16/2006 at 14:18 (6,666 days old) by jenks318 ()        

Thanks for the reply. I went and obtained the manufacturer's number and it begins with 110. That does make it a Whirlpool.

Post# 104101 , Reply# 3   1/16/2006 at 17:12 (6,666 days old) by knitwits1975 ()        
Not Mexico.

The Kenmore He and Whirlpool duets are made in Germany. Their matching dryers are made in the USA.

Post# 104103 , Reply# 4   1/16/2006 at 17:25 (6,666 days old) by agiflow ()        

Yes the duets and Hetties are German made, but i believe the smaller 3.3 capacity units are Mexican made.

Post# 104115 , Reply# 5   1/16/2006 at 19:06 (6,666 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Agiflow is correct about mfg locatoin.

Post# 104243 , Reply# 6   1/17/2006 at 14:00 (6,665 days old) by deeptub (Carbondale, IL)        

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We got an HE2 pair over the weekend. We went to the Sears outlet to look at the Electrolux-made 3.5 cu ft machines and, while the price was right, they just seemed a little chintzy. We were going to walk around the mall and think about it when we saw the HE2 pair in the display window. They were the only HE2s there and they seemed so much more sturdy than the Electrolux-made machines, we bought them on the spot. The washer had a scratch on the door, so it was $628 instead of $899, and the dryer is also flawed cosmetically, but I haven't found a mark on it. It was 450 instead of $799. They're stacked in a closet, so it doesn't really matter!

I'd love to be doing my wash in vintage machines, but the house in question only has room for a stack. The older maytag stack was at least vintage tech, but it was SMALL. After we house/dog sat at a friend's recently who has the biggest KM toploader, and I did what would have been 8 loads of wash in 4, I really got a wild hair for a big new machine. The HE2 seemed to be the answer, as the HE3/HE4/duet size machines are really too big for the closet.

Don't have too much experience with them yet, but the washer is exceptionally quiet. The noisiest thing it does is fill, second noisiest is drain. Spinning is third noisiest, and washing is very quiet--no motor noise, and a distant splashy plop sound as the clothes tumble.

Watching the clothes wash is better than cable!
T.


Post# 104245 , Reply# 7   1/17/2006 at 14:12 (6,665 days old) by deeptub (Carbondale, IL)        

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P.S., the washer's model plate says "Made in Mexico", the dryer's "guts" seem to be ordinary "front-lint-filter" WP/KM. I did a load yesterday that consisted of 4 pairs jeans, 3 cotton sweaters, 2 towels, and 1 sweatshirt. That seemed to be a max load--washer tumber filled but not packed. All came out well.

Post# 104282 , Reply# 8   1/17/2006 at 18:31 (6,665 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        
HE2

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These are made for Sears by Whirlpool.I saw Whirlpool's virsion of them this past weekend at the builder's convention here in Orlando,Fl.They hold the equivilent of any super capacity top loading washer and from what I saw of them,they looked as though they wood do a more than sattisfactory job.

Post# 104291 , Reply# 9   1/17/2006 at 19:05 (6,665 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Tom, welcome to your subscription of the laundry channel!! lol.

Post# 104369 , Reply# 10   1/18/2006 at 02:12 (6,665 days old) by tgodel ()        

Laundromat,

Having seen the Whirlpool version of the He2 at last weekend's builders convention in Orland, can you comment on any modifications in packaging or functionality you might have seen versus the Kenmore version?

Thanks!
--Trip


Post# 104395 , Reply# 11   1/18/2006 at 10:15 (6,664 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Yes.The Whirlpools have the clear see through windows and their controls are more universal as well as user friendly.The Kenmores have the smoked glass windows and you can't realy see through them w/out being right in front of the glass.The Whirlpools can be raised with either a 10" or a 15.5"pedestal.However,the 10" pedestal has no drawer.The dryers are now abel to be vented 4 ways.The washer's max.spin speed is 1,050 on the WFW8300 or 1,100 on the WFW8500.the capacity is 3.3 cu.ft in the WFW8300 and 3.6 cu.ft in the WFW8500.The dimensions are 36"H X 27"W X 30"D.

Post# 104457 , Reply# 12   1/18/2006 at 16:10 (6,664 days old) by tgodel ()        

This is exciting! I like the He2s; they will fit in my space, and their price is right, but I'm not happy with the feature set. I'm glad to hear there are more variants brewing.

Thanks!
--T


Post# 104484 , Reply# 13   1/18/2006 at 18:27 (6,664 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Chuck, does the WFW8500 have a supplemental heater?

Post# 105055 , Reply# 14   1/22/2006 at 14:57 (6,660 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Previous versions of this washer were rebaged Servis models made in Italy, IIRC. One huge drawback to those units was the fact water temp was chosen not by the user, but by cycle. Even worse, though the washer did have a heater, the manual gave no indication of when it came on or what it was supposed to do, (heat, boost wash water, both or maintain).

Do not know if the Mexican versions of the H2 series have altered this user unfriendly method.

What is very strange is soon as Whirlpool launched their Mexican version of the HE2 series, Sears dropped some of the models of their Electrolux built front loaders. Word on the street is they are being replaced by the Whirlpool models. Sears already carries the H2 washers, it will be interesting to see if Kenmore branded variants pop up. IIRC Whirlpool already builds some dishwashers and laundry appliances for Sears, so the relationship is there already.

L.


Post# 105158 , Reply# 15   1/23/2006 at 08:48 (6,659 days old) by deeptub (Carbondale, IL)        
HE2 temps

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The HE2 we bought, which seems to be the only model Sears sells at present, has no heater. The cycles DO have preselected temperatures, but can be manually overridden, as can the preselected spin speeds. It also has auto temp control, which is very nice given that our cold water is lake-cold in winter.

I'm not surprised to hear that Sears is phasing out the Electrolux-made FLs...the HE2 seemed much better built and made of sturdier materials than the 3.5 cu ft Electrolux. They may both turn out to be PsOS, or they might both be terrifc--time will tell. But sitting side-by-side to each other, picking the HE2 was a REALLY easy decision.

T.


Post# 105181 , Reply# 16   1/23/2006 at 11:09 (6,659 days old) by varenovator ()        
Sears model offerings

Sears does seem to be a bit squirrelly about how they choose what models to put on the floor. My sense is that they had it pretty good a few years ago, when they basically had Kenmores and Maytags, with a few FriGeMore's thrown in there. The Maytags provided a high price ceiling to sell their high-margin Kenmores under, and if they sold a Maytag, so much the better. Now, they're under assault from Lowes & HD with the LG's, Samsungs, and Whirlpool-branded machines. After the WP-Maytag merger, I'd expect the Maytags to disappear from Sears, to be replaced by ???? The good old days of Kenmores leading the sales charts appear to be numbered.


Post# 105232 , Reply# 17   1/23/2006 at 15:47 (6,659 days old) by tgodel ()        

Deeptub,

When you make a change to the temperature or spin speed of a cycle on your He2, does the unit remember those changes the next time you select that same cycle?

Thanks!
--T


Post# 105256 , Reply# 18   1/23/2006 at 18:16 (6,659 days old) by deeptub (Carbondale, IL)        

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tgodel--I honestly haven't paid attention. I'm washing a load tonight and will report back.
T.


Post# 105263 , Reply# 19   1/23/2006 at 19:04 (6,659 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Tgodel, if it's like all other machines like this, the answer is no. The only way it will "remember" is if you use the same cycle again sequentially.

Post# 105402 , Reply# 20   1/24/2006 at 13:41 (6,658 days old) by tgodel ()        

Deeptub,

Thanks for checking! Please let us know what you find out.

--Trip


Post# 105432 , Reply# 21   1/24/2006 at 17:05 (6,658 days old) by nurdlinger (Tucson AZ)        
if it's like all other machines like this

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How broad do you intend this to be? My 3.5cft FrigMore does exactly what tgodel asked: remembers the settings for temperature and final spin speed, plus any asserted options, for each programmed cycle, until changed at some future time.

Post# 106987 , Reply# 22   1/31/2006 at 09:28 (6,651 days old) by deeptub (Carbondale, IL)        

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Sorry for the delay. I didn't get to the laundry as quickly as I thought. No, the HE2 does not remember the settings you change, apart from cycle signal on/off.
Also, I note that the HE2 was a CR Best Buy in this month's Consumer Reports.
T.


Post# 107052 , Reply# 23   1/31/2006 at 18:14 (6,651 days old) by tgodel ()        

Wow... I'm surprised to hear that the He2 remembers nothing. That is a big miss compared to the Fridgimores, and doubly so considering that there is no custom cycle choice!

Who wants to hit the water temperature button (or other similar) 100 times in the next 5 years to get the wash you want?

*GRIN*

--Trip


Post# 107155 , Reply# 24   2/1/2006 at 09:16 (6,650 days old) by deeptub (Carbondale, IL)        

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It works ok for me, because I tend to be scatterbrained and if I wanted 2nd Rinse for one load, I would probably then have 2nd rinse for every washload for a year before I realized that was still selected. The preset settings are for the most part what I use anyway, so I seldom have to change them. For example, Normal/Casual temp is Warm/Cold and Heavy Duty temp is Hot/Cold.

As I said, I tend to be scattered--maybe DISTRACTED is a better word--so I'm thrilled to have a washer that makes sound decisions for me when I'm not paying attention. I'm ashamed to say that with the old washer, many times I'd realize that I'd washed the whites on Cold or the darks on Hot or stuffed it and had the water level set on Small. I guess the ideal situation would be if the washer had a way to set it to EITHER provide default settings OR use your last settings. I'm really not normally such an idiot, but with the washer and dryer in the kitchen, laundry always seems to coincide with fixing dinner, loading the dishwasher, yelling at the dog, etc.

Anyway, the model we got was the only one available but it sounds like there are more HE2 models on the way. Once there IS a "line", I think ours would very definitely be middle-of-the-line. There will HAVE to be fancier machines than ours.

T.



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