Thread Number: 46733
I had no idea HE washers worked this terribly... |
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Post# 681000 , Reply# 2   5/25/2013 at 18:34 (3,960 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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The true teast is to take a shirt or t=shirt out of one of these washers when it is done and plunge and agitate in a bath tub full of fresh clean warm water. How many suds do you see? That's the effectiveness of the rinsing. And for people with skin allergies like me, that would put me over the cliff. |
Post# 681005 , Reply# 3   5/25/2013 at 19:16 (3,960 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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the first ones were not the best, they worked, but needed a little kick......changes are being made and updated to combat these issues....
I have the Cabrio version like this....adding 3 gallons of water makes all the difference in the world..... for the most part, in the newer machines, more water is being added, a big plus, in both TL and FL HE machines is the addition of the "sprinkler" that makes sure the load is saturated thru-out..... I would buy this machine again, as long as it has the sprinking option.....Samsung and LG, Whirlpool and others have started to add more water, and a powerwash sprinkler.......much like the often hated Calypso, a constant waterfall, which works like a dream... CLICK HERE TO GO TO Yogitunes's LINK |
Post# 681006 , Reply# 4   5/25/2013 at 19:29 (3,960 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 681008 , Reply# 5   5/25/2013 at 19:39 (3,960 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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heres a video by our own Gansky, demonstrating his on the sheets cycle......look to be enough water for good results.....
your mileage may vary..... I know the Bulky cycle adds water almost to the top...... CLICK HERE TO GO TO Yogitunes's LINK |
Post# 681009 , Reply# 6   5/25/2013 at 19:41 (3,960 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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this one is evern better......showing the recirc spray.....using a combination of the two is offering better cleaning and rinsing.....
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Yogitunes's LINK |
Post# 681014 , Reply# 7   5/25/2013 at 20:33 (3,959 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Just as show, one identifies and uses the cycles which use the most water. for my whirlpool front loader I use bulky Items, Allergan, and Jeans. Normal is the cycle used to determine the energy star rating and thus the most stingy in wash water and wash time. I won't use that for my laundry. You have to educate yourself. Not be ignorant.
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Post# 681017 , Reply# 8   5/25/2013 at 20:53 (3,959 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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when I worked at PC Richard & Son - we had a lot of returns on these whirlpool maytag. I always advised my customers if they didn't want a FL HE to buy Samsung or LG TL. More water is always better. Also I don't understand how whirlpool says it washes gently - it is obvious the clothes are getting beaten. I now work at home depot and I still encourage people to stay away from these HE TL whirltags. I think recirculating the water helps a lot!
Peter |
Post# 681020 , Reply# 10   5/25/2013 at 21:02 (3,959 days old) by norgechef (Saint George New Brunswick )   |   | |
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Would be a Samsung or an LG turbo-drum (only top load models) |
Post# 681026 , Reply# 11   5/25/2013 at 22:30 (3,959 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Post# 681065 , Reply# 12   5/26/2013 at 03:58 (3,959 days old) by qualin (Canada)   |   | |
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You would almost think that HE top loaders were designed to get people to switch over to using front loaders.... |
Post# 681074 , Reply# 13   5/26/2013 at 07:53 (3,959 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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I personally prefer the FL over these HE TL. But their are many folks that don't want FL. I personally prefer the FL. I like the Samsung's and LG's the best. I don't care for the whirlpool. I think this tumble fresh option that can tumble for 12 hours after the cycle is complete is stupid. If they can do this they can make combos with these machines. I have even discussed this with the wp service rep a few times and he said he took it back to his higher ups and got no intelligent answer. It is sad with all this technology most of these FL should have a dry option. As it is the $ amount is outrageous for all these units. The dryers are even more expensive than the washers. If I was buying a set I would never pay that amount for a dryer. Unless I needed to stack it. They would sell a lot of combos today especially with the space restraints people have. I think they should make them in 110v as well as 220v - so many people do not remove their wash right after it is done - so being they leave clothes in the washer - the clothes can be dry when they come back. It would just have to be explained to customers that they could only wash / dry 1/2 to 2/3 of a load to accomplish this. Being so many folks don't remove clothes immediately and do smaller loads a lot this would work great. Also most of these washers have heaters in them anyway so it would not be hard to make them combos. They can be made with a choice of vented or non vented.
This is just my rant! Peter |
Post# 681075 , Reply# 14   5/26/2013 at 08:02 (3,959 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 681080 , Reply# 15   5/26/2013 at 08:34 (3,959 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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AMEN!..DADoES......
not quite vintage yet, but if your gonna have a TL HE washer that truely is "efficient", and "effective"!....Calypso is the only one!..... Catalyst Soak and Waterfall saturation, true gentle bouncing wash motion, 3-4 rinses, a seperate bleach rinse, spin spray rinsing and a 800 rpm spin, not the highest, but sufficient... some argue of issues from the first gen Calypso's....its your choice not to purchase one, but that just leaves more for me, and for others who have discovered their true benefits.....that's why I have a set, and a spare!...and parts machine! |
Post# 681123 , Reply# 17   5/26/2013 at 13:49 (3,959 days old) by jmm63 (Denville, NJ)   |   | |
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Post# 681134 , Reply# 18   5/26/2013 at 15:48 (3,959 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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do you learn nothing that I teach you Jim.....SIZE MATTERS!....everyone wants to see a huge drum, not only deep, but width too....and they get the impression of stuffing a king size comforter inside, not that it actually can wash or handle it effectively, but that it fits inside....
and then you get everyone jamming several baskets into one load......but odd enough, no matter how huge, we come back to the large capacity capability of yesteryear....the most you can fit is an 18lb load, and that's even pushing it! |
Post# 681212 , Reply# 22   5/27/2013 at 10:46 (3,958 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 681213 , Reply# 23   5/27/2013 at 11:11 (3,958 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)   |   | |
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IMHO I really wish Whirlpool would have stayed with the Calypso design and worked all the bugs out. From a purely operational standpoint, I really think they were onto something. |
Post# 681231 , Reply# 24   5/27/2013 at 15:23 (3,958 days old) by imperial70 (MA USA)   |   | |
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I second that humble opinion Rinso. From what I've read on here there are users that have enjoyed their Calypso's. Speaking of that... wondering how Haier is doing with Maytag's Neptune TL design? |
Post# 681250 , Reply# 25   5/27/2013 at 17:24 (3,958 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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too little too late....but not really.....after many complaints, Whirlpool as well as others are changing things around, improvements are on the way, as with anything new on the market, never buy the prototype, give them a few years to work the bugs out, and then purchase the better model...
as I stated before, many TL and FL are adding the sprinkler/waterfalls......it's a definate improvement in washing and rinsing.....wishing mine had this....as for now, the Calypso does a really nice job, if you haven't got a chance to play with one, all I ask is you try it once, it may change your mind... this video link is courtesy of our own DADoES....which shows the Calypso in action thru a whole cycle....don't be fooled, those clothes are circulating and rolling over, Glen should have thrown in a black sock just to show its movement...but pay attention to how much water is really used, the clothes get saturated, and the fill continues for any size load, until the waterfall is established....usually about 3 gallons...talk about efficient and effective!......not to mention spin sprays.... CLICK HERE TO GO TO Yogitunes's LINK |