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Post# 681973   6/1/2013 at 17:00 (3,975 days old) by Imperial70 (MA USA)        

The link below is for the Right-height version in White.
There are also 4.5 CF versions without the built in pedestal and other features omitted. Looks promising (IMHO) Just can't help thinking they are LG's being built here. Not that I've formed an opinion either way.


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Post# 681976 , Reply# 1   6/1/2013 at 17:07 (3,975 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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me if i have to buy tommorow morning a washer as a daily driver i would buy a washer in function of the cycles i use and for me what better suite my need is a good old fashion topload washer

Post# 682015 , Reply# 2   6/1/2013 at 20:33 (3,974 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

At least they are touting "Max" rinsing cycles. That's a step in the right direction.

Post# 682017 , Reply# 3   6/1/2013 at 20:45 (3,974 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Capacity is interesting though

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The constant 'size' debate always intrigues me, particularly when I see a machine rated like this one.

So here we have a 4.5 cu ft machine which has a recommended normal linen load of:

2 Flat Queen-Sized Sheets
2 Fitted Queen-Sized Sheets
4 Pillowcases

I wash that in my existing 6.5kg machine (approx 2.3 cu ft) without even giving it consideration....

What on earth is going on here? I would expect to be able to put virtually double that load in a machine with that 'capacity'.


Post# 682018 , Reply# 4   6/1/2013 at 20:46 (3,974 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I wonder if MAX

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is just "another" rinse instead of a deeper rinse?

Post# 682020 , Reply# 5   6/1/2013 at 21:09 (3,974 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Normal Rinse = two rinses

Extra Rinse = three rinses

Max Rinse = four rinses

 

 


Post# 682024 , Reply# 6   6/1/2013 at 21:40 (3,974 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

I wonder if the elimination of the pedestal and drawer elimates some of the hassle of a poor installation? I would think it would make it sturdier? alr

Post# 682039 , Reply# 7   6/1/2013 at 22:58 (3,974 days old) by aptone1 ()        

The machines are built on the assembly line with the riser. I think you would have to remove the tub (or dryer drum) or use a magic screw driver (really short) to get them apart. The units with the riser had to go through ship testing so they have to be able to be dropped from 6inches with no damage. The machine was designed and is built in Louisville Ky. To my knowledge it shares no parts with any LG machine.

Note: Posted by a GE employee who works in laundry.


Post# 682069 , Reply# 8   6/2/2013 at 05:06 (3,974 days old) by Imperial70 (MA USA)        

aptone1,
Thanks for the information and good news!


Post# 682074 , Reply# 9   6/2/2013 at 05:45 (3,974 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Rinsing!

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According to the specs the MAX rinse is a 3rd rinse! I hope This is wrong. From what this is saying you only get one rinse without any extras! (sux)
Peter



Post# 682076 , Reply# 10   6/2/2013 at 05:58 (3,974 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Confused

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If you look at the control panel above the rinse button, it has: Extra or Max - so would that mean that extra is a second rinse and max is a third? Odd since my duet has two by default and extra is a third. I was hoping that max wasn't just an additional rinse, but a DEEP rinse. It just seems IMFREAKINGPOSSILE for one of these manufacturers to give that option. It's not like it wouldn't still meet gov't regulations. I don't get it.

Post# 682082 , Reply# 11   6/2/2013 at 08:12 (3,974 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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so many manufacturer's claim "king size" capacity, yet can only handle a queen size comforter at best, as noted in their manuals, at least the ones I have read....

not recalling the exact size of my Neptunes, I think its around 3.3cuft.....but when they came out, they claimed and showed that it could wash, not a few, or a set, but 10 king size sheets in one load....and do it effectively....which it does very well....granted it does one wash and 3 rinses, a fourth rinse is available...

only the 5500series and up, do a higher rpm during the last rinse, one, to really do a thorough rinse, and two, make sure water is flushing out the entire outter drum area of residue....there is no "clean washer" cycle, none ever needed!


Post# 682129 , Reply# 12   6/2/2013 at 15:25 (3,974 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)        

Maybe the web site is incorrect but it says:

"Max Rinse - Enjoy the maximum level of rinsing action with the industry's only third fresh water rinse and spin". Of course this doesn't mean it is a deep rinse because they are using the term "rinsing action."

Third fresh water rinse and spin. Umm I just did that today on all loads using my washer I bought in 2003. My front loader in the 1980's rinsed three times on all loads, and there was no way to turn it off so.... Maybe it is a different industry they are talking about.

Anyway is the advantage of these supposed to be that the pedestals and machine and put together at the factory?


Post# 682134 , Reply# 13   6/2/2013 at 15:51 (3,974 days old) by aptone1 ()        

I don't know about the cycle programming and definitions. So I can't say anything about the rinse but it does seem silly to believe there is anything really new regarding the number of rinses available. Although the statement made into the literature so I am betting there is some technicality in how it works that has never been done before. As for the risers there are two versions of the machines that differ only by the riser. I think the riser on the machines adds about 100 versus a pedestal for 200+. Pedestals I think are usually taller and without checking I would bet they are about the same height with riser as a TL machine with backsplash. This might be taller than other units but if you were replacing a unit the biggest concern would be the width, 28 inches versus the usual 27. I would guess that taking the riser off would be very difficult and therefore costly if you called a service person to do the job.

Note: Posted by a GE employee who works in laundry.


Post# 682157 , Reply# 14   6/2/2013 at 19:59 (3,973 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Well I do know in the past

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that I think the Duet front load US models from a couple or three years ago had a MAX rinse option along with extra rinse and that Max rinse did use MORE water than just an extra rinse. The description said it used higher water levels for thorough rinsing.....Of course, the later models that came out NO LONGER have that unless it's called something else hidden deep in the cycle modification options. How much more water did it use I do not know.

Post# 682240 , Reply# 15   6/3/2013 at 09:33 (3,973 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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The manual for my washers says that the Skin Care rinse adds more water for best rinsing results. When selecting this option, more water means another rinse (and spin) - so up to four in total. The rinse level ranges from covering the perforated area of the drum to several inches up the door glass. This is, of course, on a German Duet with European programming. More rinses with fresh water and spins in between actually give better results than just more water.

 

Regarding the GE: traditionally, the Extra Rinse function gives a "second rinse" although it adds up to three rinses in total. So the GE, following this tradition, will do up to four rinses. The TOL Maytag with the screen also has an Ultra Rinse setting that adds another two rinses. Some LGs, too. I even saw a Kenmore by LG that would let you select five rinses via the Exrta Rinse button. That was 1.5 years ago, though.

 

Alex


Post# 682241 , Reply# 16   6/3/2013 at 09:36 (3,973 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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This is the rinse level on Delicates with a bunch of absorbant blanket. It's a high as it'll go.


Post# 682279 , Reply# 17   6/3/2013 at 14:15 (3,973 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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When reading the manual last week, the mention of the industry exclusive 3 fresh rinses had me wondering too.

Power rinse is mentioned, but not clarified. GE has trademarked "Power Rinse," and has used it to describe a deep-rinse feature of top-load washers as well (for use when adding fabric softener). Perhaps the default is a spray rinse and a deep rinse? The manual states "On models with Power Rinse, the basket light will illuminate at the beginning of each rinse cycle." If power rinse is a spray rinse, perhaps turning the light on will signify that this is a rinse? Just a guess.

I am not too impressed with the 1250RPM top spin speed.



Post# 682312 , Reply# 18   6/3/2013 at 18:53 (3,972 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Sneaky wording Logixx -

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Skincare rinse on your machine only uses MORE WATER because it's "another" rinse, instead of using MORE water in the actual rinse.

I remember going over the Duet and the He3t's skincare rinse back in the day on another forum, and people were wondering if it was more water or just another rinse, and from what we were told my He3t owners was that Skincare rinse did use MORE water in the actual rinse and not just an additional rinse


Post# 682559 , Reply# 19   6/5/2013 at 09:42 (3,971 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I have to hand a small prize to Speed Queen. I do not use the extra rinse button on my machine. I let it go through the regular two rinse program and then the high speed final spin which extracts a LOT more water than the pulse spins. Then I reset the program knob for Rinse and Spin. It does a great job in that last rinse. After the fill is complete, I turn the selector to OFF and then back to Rinse & Spin to give a longer tumbling time in the last rinse. Since I am down there for that, I practice a bit of "force feeding" with a hose inserted into the dispenser to bring the water a couple of inches up on the glass but, while there are bubbles, the water is not sudsy in the third rinse. It was not as free of suds if I used the Extra Rinse with the less effective pulse spins. It probably helps that I use half Persil and half STPP so there is less sudsing even in the wash. It's good to have at least one "beast" that is built on a commercial platform that can handle pretty much anything without stopping repeatedly to redistribute the load.

Post# 682589 , Reply# 20   6/5/2013 at 15:27 (3,971 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)        

Does what you are saying mean that the Speed Queen FLs do not do complete spins between each rinse..reading that right?

Post# 682706 , Reply# 21   6/6/2013 at 07:01 (3,970 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
You read that right

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the only reason I know is a forum member (Malcolm I think) had a SQ FL washer and made videos of it and posted them here a few years ago, and they do pulse spins between the wash and rinses, not full ON spins...until the end of course.

Post# 682715 , Reply# 22   6/6/2013 at 08:22 (3,970 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Pulse Spins

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I found that the PULSE spins on the SQ machine was more than effective in extracting sudsy water while minimizing suds locking the machine.

Malcolm


Post# 682809 , Reply# 23   6/6/2013 at 19:23 (3,969 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Yogi, I think one reason the Neptune was able to make the claim of effectively washing such a large load is that the Neptune's staggered paddles move the load side to side in addition to up and over.


Post# 682814 , Reply# 24   6/6/2013 at 20:02 (3,969 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Those paddles

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on that Neptune put the paddles I see in front load washers now to shame. They are SO small.

Post# 794841 , Reply# 25   11/19/2014 at 01:11 (3,439 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
GE rightHeight washer and dryer

I was wondering if you could post videos of this new laundry pair. Thanks.

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