Thread Number: 46886
Is Whirlpool making COMMERCIAL belt drive washers? |
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Post# 682665 , Reply# 2   6/5/2013 at 23:52 (3,949 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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If the "new" BD WP's aren't holding up in residental situations-how does WP expect it to hold up under commercial use?Did they beef up the commercial versions?If so,these would sure be nice to get for a heavy household user. |
Post# 682710 , Reply# 3   6/6/2013 at 07:38 (3,949 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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In my Expert opinion I think it is far too early in the game to pronounce that the new line of WP BD TL washers are going to be excessively troublesome or short lived. WP has already sold MILLIONS of these machines over the last 3 plus years and yes those of us working on and selling new appliances have seen a few problems which does not seem unusual for any washer sold in such LARGE NUMBERS, and I have yet to see one trashed either by us or the huge appliance distributor near us [ I get to look over the hundred or so machines they pull out of homes every week to see if there is anything there we want ].
I think it is a good sign that WP is moving this machine into the Commercial lineup, many mainly residential machines never got this far. I remember going to many Maytag sales meetings and the MT reps telling us how good the Norgetags were and I would always say if they are so good why is there no Commercial Version ?, MT of coerce stuck with the DC Helical drive machines for commercial applications to the end. |
Post# 682735 , Reply# 4   6/6/2013 at 10:32 (3,949 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)   |   | |
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I work for Whirlpool Corporation, and this is my personal opinion.
I'm excited about these machines! They are already posted on the Home Depot website. We'll see how the Agi-Peller pans out! CLICK HERE TO GO TO Pulsator's LINK |
Post# 682763 , Reply# 6   6/6/2013 at 13:55 (3,948 days old) by mixfinder ()   |   | |
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Jaime can you tell us more about an Agi-Peller since the description says its not an impeller. |
Post# 682767 , Reply# 7   6/6/2013 at 14:19 (3,948 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 682775 , Reply# 8   6/6/2013 at 15:36 (3,948 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 682806 , Reply# 10   6/6/2013 at 19:15 (3,948 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 682816 , Reply# 11   6/6/2013 at 20:21 (3,948 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 682826 , Reply# 12   6/6/2013 at 21:47 (3,948 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Looks kinda similar to GE's HydroWave system with the raised center on the impeller to hold fabric softener. I assume the pole in the center of this unit avoids loading issues - like people dumping everything in at once instead of layering items around the impeller with its center remaining visible. The pole automatically keeps items away from the middle of the impeller. Also, the agi does look a little like in a deep-fill washer. Looks old-school but it ain't. Some (many?) people would likely be put off using a washer with an obvious wash plate in it. The center pole helps in that regard, too.
BTW, read a GE commercial washer manual today and it said that the softener must be added towards the end of the main wash as it won't dispense during the spray rinsing. *eww* |
Post# 682882 , Reply# 13   6/7/2013 at 07:06 (3,948 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 682889 , Reply# 14   6/7/2013 at 07:31 (3,948 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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That is the wonderful thing about new electronically controlled washers, They will protect them selves, the motors do a great job of detecting strain and overload and react accordingly, the load just won't get washed and maybe the user can take the detergent covered stuff out and put it in the dryer, LOL. |
Post# 682915 , Reply# 15   6/7/2013 at 10:15 (3,948 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 682920 , Reply# 16   6/7/2013 at 10:46 (3,947 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)   |   | |
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I agree with what Alexander and Malcolm said. I imagine the extended wash plate will force a user to properly load the washer, as they won't know to drop the clothes around the wash plate, avoiding covering the center. But from what I have seen in Laundromats, people often overload the machines.
Don't HE top-load washers take a long time to complete a cycle? It seems to me performance will suffer as long wash cycles are not compatible with a typical Laundromat. Although, in a Laundromat setting, perhaps the machines can dispense with time consuming load sensing, assuming that every load is a full load. |
Post# 682973 , Reply# 17   6/7/2013 at 18:40 (3,947 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 683000 , Reply# 19   6/7/2013 at 22:01 (3,947 days old) by WP-Dude22 (Trinidad and Tobago )   |   | |
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pix wonders if the agipeller will make it to the next round of whirlpool top loaders for residential use could not find the agipeller pics |
Post# 683001 , Reply# 20   6/7/2013 at 22:01 (3,947 days old) by WP-Dude22 (Trinidad and Tobago )   |   | |
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Post# 683029 , Reply# 21   6/8/2013 at 07:45 (3,947 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 683035 , Reply# 22   6/8/2013 at 08:45 (3,947 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 683036 , Reply# 23   6/8/2013 at 08:53 (3,947 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 683037 , Reply# 24   6/8/2013 at 08:55 (3,947 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Manufacturers can justifiability use the term Commercial Quality on the control panels of residential machines if they are using basically the same machines in commercial applications.
Whirlpool is going to STOP building DD washers and they SHOULD, the design is now over 30 YEARS OLD and while it is probably one of the best TL washers designs ever it just does not spin fast enough, uses too many raw materials to build and the newer design is much easier to repair and will likely be MORE RELIABLE in the normal life of a washer 12-30 years. |
Post# 683038 , Reply# 25   6/8/2013 at 09:00 (3,947 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 683042 , Reply# 26   6/8/2013 at 09:41 (3,947 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 683079 , Reply# 28   6/8/2013 at 15:09 (3,946 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 683360 , Reply# 33   6/10/2013 at 11:30 (3,944 days old) by WP-Dude22 (Trinidad and Tobago )   |   | |
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wonders if this washer works liek the regular agitator models with 90 ans 180 degree arcs or 360 arch wash action i would buy a agipella and test in my wtw4850 o see if it works there as that wash is auto water level as well |
Post# 683362 , Reply# 34   6/10/2013 at 11:39 (3,944 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 683976 , Reply# 37   6/15/2013 at 11:17 (3,939 days old) by camMURRAY22 (Savannah,Georgia)   |   | |
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From my point of view, they should have rebuilt them by using the demestic belt-drive design from the early 80s. |
Post# 683977 , Reply# 38   6/15/2013 at 11:31 (3,939 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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Maybe a petition to bring back the old direct drives and belt drives? no wait only the old belt drives. |
Post# 684396 , Reply# 39   6/18/2013 at 09:34 (3,937 days old) by WP-Dude22 (Trinidad and Tobago )   |   | |
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agipeller |
Post# 684398 , Reply# 40   6/18/2013 at 09:40 (3,937 days old) by WP-Dude22 (Trinidad and Tobago )   |   | |
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credit for the pic mickeyd his thread www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T... |
Post# 685949 , Reply# 43   6/27/2013 at 05:58 (3,928 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 795241 , Reply# 44   11/21/2014 at 10:36 (3,415 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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That AgiPeller looks like my FlexCare one piece that I put in my HydoWave. Interesting.
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