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New Generation Servis Hydrodrive, June 2013.... |
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Post# 682896   6/7/2013 at 08:09 (3,969 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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The latest models in the Servis Hydrodrive washing machine and washer dryer range have just been released, looking very smart...
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Post# 682898 , Reply# 1   6/7/2013 at 08:23 (3,969 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Damn! if I had waited I could have had one of them instead of that bloomin Indesit! grrr lol :) Tom |
Post# 682911 , Reply# 3   6/7/2013 at 09:55 (3,969 days old) by dj-gabriele ()   |   | |
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Don't you notice that those machines are simply Vestel crap in disguise?! Give me any machine of any European manufacturer, thanks! (Turkey isn't and never will be Europe, regardless of what economists want!) |
Post# 682918 , Reply# 4   6/7/2013 at 10:38 (3,969 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 683053 , Reply# 6   6/8/2013 at 12:46 (3,967 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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You're skating on thin ice here, Gabriele, I suggest you be quiet.
The 2 main Italian brands are Indesit and Candy. And quite frankly, I wouldn't be paid to own one. This has nothing to do with the Hoover/Hotpoint takeovers and everything to do with the fact that they're unreliable and poor performing. My brother's 18 month old Hotpoint Ultima has been repaired 6 times so far due to various faults and the Indesit he owned before it for less than a year was totally written off. Beko, a Turkish brand, are proving themselves to be incredibly high performing and reliable and going from strength to strength. I'd sooner own one of those than anything churned out by Indesit or Candy. |
Post# 683058 , Reply# 7   6/8/2013 at 13:11 (3,967 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 683059 , Reply# 8   6/8/2013 at 13:11 (3,967 days old) by dave886 (united kingdom)   |   | |
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@aquacycle I 100% TOTALLY AGREE WITH U, I COULDN'T OF SAID IT ANY BETTER |
Post# 683088 , Reply# 10   6/8/2013 at 16:18 (3,967 days old) by nrones ()   |   | |
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getting back to the subject... Yogitunes, as far as I've read, HydroDrive are 2 water jets spraying the laundry from the top of the drum, making machine use less water and therefore energy when washing ;) Dex |
Post# 683091 , Reply# 11   6/8/2013 at 16:36 (3,967 days old) by zodawash (Lincolnshire,United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Post# 683092 , Reply# 12   6/8/2013 at 16:47 (3,967 days old) by zodawash (Lincolnshire,United Kingdom)   |   | |
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The New Servis is also using the same design as the new Amica machine just launched ,both Vestel machines
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Post# 683099 , Reply# 14   6/8/2013 at 17:31 (3,967 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 683100 , Reply# 15   6/8/2013 at 17:46 (3,967 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 683102 , Reply# 16   6/8/2013 at 18:09 (3,967 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)   |   | |
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Apologies in advance for referring back to those few embittering comments made by some of the folks above but I feel I need to put my 2 pence in here: maybe because I love both countries in question and it hurts me seeing this kind of contrasting thoughts being fuelled in such a way, notwithstanding I see some truths emerging from both parties.
Maybe I would be biased myself in going against one of those two main Italian brands, Indesit in my experience, hence supporting the low reliability theory... however, one needs to take into account the fact that Indesit/Hotpoint is the number one appliance seller in the UK, so you're bound to find a higher number of customer complaints and faults than you normally would with other less sold brands. As for Hoover(Candy), my 2000, 2003 and 2004 machines had shown me nothing but reliability and performance despite the endless stream of negativity I received from some biased UK friends and acquaintances (no anybody... only those with a passion about appliances like the rest of us here) about this brand who never had any experience with it, but felt the need to stress that 'Hoover' has gone downhill since the 'Candy' takeover and their products are only good for a couple of years (this is been going on for over a decade and I'm still waiting for my appliances to break down). I've had several confrontations with these small circle over the years as I kept growing fonder of my Candy products. I believe this manufacturer mass-produces these machines, so I eliminated the possibility that they produced just a few reliable pieces destined to my address. If some you know different... I'm all ears... well eyes B-) |
Post# 683108 , Reply# 17   6/8/2013 at 18:36 (3,967 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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My best friends Beko will be 5 this year. Used constantly in a house with 2 small children and its never missed a beat. Same goes with my sisters machine, which is just under 3 years old. Or how about my friends Mum's Beko EcoCare, still going strong after 9 years. Again, never missed a beat. My Aunty Lynne has just replaced her 18 month old Candy that was written off with bearing failure with a Beko and has instantly noticed the increase in performance. My brother had an Indesit which was totally written off after just 7 months use and now has a Hotpoint Ultima that's been repaired 6 times in under 2 years.
Sorry, but, explain to me again how Indesit and Candy are better? Going back to Gabriele's comment for a moment, I really don't agree that there is any bad feelings towards the companies with regards to the takeovers. The problem I have is that Hoover and Hotpoint were always respected, reputable, high performing appliances. Indesit and Candy made machines just did not live up to that. The new Hotpoint range I was actually very impressed with and I liked the first Candy made Hoover's (Performa series). Will the new Hotpoints be more reliable? Lets hope so. I also don't think it's fair to slag these new Servis machines off as "Vestel crap" without having used one. For all you know, they could be fantastic machines. |
Post# 683154 , Reply# 19   6/9/2013 at 05:56 (3,967 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Hotpoint have never been a low end brand. They had their lower end models, but were mostly mid-high end in the UK, alongside Hoover and Servis. Servis only became a budget brand after the 1990 Merloni take over. Indesit have always been the budget brand here, although a lot of their older machines were much more reliable and high performing than the newer ranges.
The high end brands were Bosch, AEG, Zanussi and Miele. As I said, the newest Hotpoint range has proven to be a really decent performer and Indesit appear to be improving. Only time will tell with the reliability issues. But this just backs up the argument that a lower end manufacturer can offer a good machine. Compare the current Indesits with the diabolical Evolution range - the new machines are better in just about everyway. Without trying them, what's to say Vestel haven't got it spot on with these new Servis machines? I'm not saying they have, but I think it's important to remain open minded about it |
Post# 683162 , Reply# 21   6/9/2013 at 06:42 (3,967 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)   |   | |
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Post# 683187 , Reply# 23   6/9/2013 at 08:10 (3,967 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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You pay your money and take your choice...!!!
Lets face it no matter who makes what or whatever the name is it is only that JUST A NAME !! I am sure there are lots of machines of all makes that are running after a number of years without failure. How many of us have bought a tol model all singing and dancing only to find out it was the last one made on the friday before a national holiday ??? If you take into consideration the amount of washing machines in use today its only a handful that you hear of failing. Austin |
Post# 683196 , Reply# 25   6/9/2013 at 09:30 (3,967 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 683217 , Reply# 26   6/9/2013 at 13:21 (3,966 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)   |   | |
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Aqua Cycle, Do you know if all Beko machines have static fills? Thanks. |
Post# 683359 , Reply# 27   6/10/2013 at 11:27 (3,966 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Well, I think it depends on the model. My best friend has a 5 year old model (1200rpm, 5kg, variable spin) and that does static fills, whereas my Aunty Lynne's brand new model is higher up in the range. The first fill is static, but as it tops up the water after the first few tumbles, it continues to tumble as it fills.
The older models (or at least, the lower end models) all used to have timed fills rather than sensored fills, but from what I've seen the new ranges seem to use a proper sensor. |
Post# 683397 , Reply# 29   6/10/2013 at 14:55 (3,965 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)   |   | |
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I might've got the description wrong... but I knew what AquaCycle meant... the model featured in the picture he posted was a nightmare... I remember my aunt had 1 of them and with an average of 2-3 washes a week it only lasted 5 years... but the worst thing was the dodgy performance... she was always complaining! Mind you... I wasn't there to see how she did the wash :-P
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Post# 683398 , Reply# 30   6/10/2013 at 15:03 (3,965 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)   |   | |
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Yes Hi to you to, how you doing? Doesn't look very good from the Picture either at least it wasn't affected by them exploding though, or was it?? I think Servis are coming on well though. |
Post# 683413 , Reply# 31   6/10/2013 at 16:34 (3,965 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)   |   | |
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Maybe those Indesit weren't exploding... not to my knowledge anyway. The one my aunt had stopped working because of a PCB failure and the engineer wrote it off (she's got an Ariston now but she doesn't know they're the same company LOL).
As for the Servis... they sure look smart... but it's still too early to express a judgement... the same way I feel about my recent Hoovers. Maybe we should just sit back and observe... I mean... watch :D Laters... |
Post# 683480 , Reply# 32   6/11/2013 at 04:41 (3,965 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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The main problem I remember with that Indesit series was the timer would advance through the whole cycle in about 10 minutes and the machine would stop mid-wash. It also had an issue where the machine would stop and timer would just continually advance round over and over again until you turned the machine off. The high end machines had digital timers and this was less of an issue, but the lower end machines with the mechanical timers were forever failing. There were numerous other issues - premature bearing and brush failure was also noted. Add that to the poor wash performance overall and the machine was hopeless.
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Post# 683496 , Reply# 34   6/11/2013 at 08:28 (3,965 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)   |   | |
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Why was the wash so poor? Was it lack of agitation? Low water levels? I had a problem with stain removal on the 2011 Zanussi Flexi Dose but luckily not on the Jetsystem model. I know the Indesits of today wash well. |
Post# 830893 , Reply# 36   7/5/2015 at 18:58 (3,210 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)   |   | |
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Post# 830898 , Reply# 37   7/5/2015 at 19:13 (3,210 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)   |   | |
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Post# 830902 , Reply# 38   7/5/2015 at 19:25 (3,210 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)   |   | |
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Post# 830907 , Reply# 39   7/5/2015 at 19:58 (3,210 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)   |   | |
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Post# 831275 , Reply# 40   7/7/2015 at 18:39 (3,208 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)   |   | |
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