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Post# 684310   6/17/2013 at 20:40 (3,958 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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Was at a local independent, dealer today, and this glossy poster caught my eye, Immediate delight to see so-called normal people having TWO washing machines. The poster also recalled Frigilux's iconic photo of three Frigidaires in his Laundry, two washers one dryer, just like these Speed Queens, (Eugene's are not stacked.) The bleach spots are sunlight rays reflecting off the gloss. When we see three washers in a promo, then for sure, we'll know we have arrived.




Post# 684312 , Reply# 1   6/17/2013 at 20:49 (3,958 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Also new to me ~

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was this Hotpoint labeled GE. If they've been around, I haven't noticed.

Post# 684313 , Reply# 2   6/17/2013 at 20:51 (3,958 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
But this Coin Operated Whirlpool ~

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Was the real kicker.

Post# 684315 , Reply# 3   6/17/2013 at 20:56 (3,958 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
When I opened her up

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I thought, Oh God, Girl, you won't be able to clean anything. Look at how diminutive those fins are! What kind of turn over? How undramatic the action, blah, blah blah.

Post# 684317 , Reply# 4   6/17/2013 at 21:01 (3,958 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
But then I remembered

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The really tiny bottom fins on the Blackstone, with no loss of drama there. Would love to see the new agitator in motion. Is on any other machines? Have any of you seen it in operation?

Post# 684319 , Reply# 5   6/17/2013 at 21:10 (3,958 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
And Lake Erie was liquid rippling silver at sunset ~

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And I wanted you to see it. I missed perfect natural lighting which really highlighted the silver by a only a minute; the camera phone was way down in the kitchen.
DOI says Homer. The silver was just nuts. Next time.


Post# 684322 , Reply# 6   6/17/2013 at 21:21 (3,958 days old) by aladude ()        

The speed queen in the picture is actually a dryer/dryer stack. Good pics though.

Post# 684324 , Reply# 7   6/17/2013 at 22:00 (3,958 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Why, thank you, Dwag

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Then we're not hatching at all ! As the late great Emily Litella would say, regarding the Presidential Erection, "Never Mind!" LOL

Ya know, somewhere deep down, I couldn't quite believe we were taking over the world. That's why the poster was so startling.

" Our day will come, la da da da, da-da." ~ the song.

"Our day will come, and we will have everything." ( soft sultry smokey voice)


Post# 684326 , Reply# 8   6/17/2013 at 22:08 (3,958 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I would have a SQ washer/dryer stack next to a (different) top loader if all I had was space for two machines. The top loader would have to change now and then.


The agitator in the WP looks like their impeller with a barrel. I love that the Maytag commercial selector knob is still in use. Just a kiss of history on what I'd bet is otherwise a horrifying commercial washer.

Beautiful lake picture, as always!


Post# 684327 , Reply# 9   6/17/2013 at 22:18 (3,958 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Was so captivated by the silver water that

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I didn't apprehend the beauty of the clouds till the pic was blown up.

Thanls, Greg. So it 'tis a stacked washer and dryer.

Does this mean that Emily was right about the Presidential Erection?


Post# 684329 , Reply# 10   6/17/2013 at 22:38 (3,957 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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No, sorry, the picture of the poster you saw has two stacked dryers. "I" would have two washers instead.

Post# 684332 , Reply# 11   6/17/2013 at 22:53 (3,957 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Mickeyd, beautiful pictures especially the sunset.  I wondered if the commercial Whirlpool had the same little plastic lock as the the new home use machines? The black coin op agitator made me think of Norge.   Our local Sears had the Hotpoint the sales lady said it was the only one she had that filled full of water for the rinse.  Thanks for sharing the photos with us.  arthur


Post# 684336 , Reply# 12   6/17/2013 at 23:45 (3,957 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Thank You, Art ~

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I remember the saying on the machine about locking, so maybe it's the same, ( I'll check next time); and yes, both the GE and HP fill all the way up on the rinse if you click the fabric softener dial. And they fill honestly to the actual level selected for the wash cycle. We have the GE with the big SS tub in our family, and like it very much, a symphony of new and cool sounds.

Post# 684377 , Reply# 13   6/18/2013 at 07:40 (3,957 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Thanks for all the photos, mickeyd! My ultimate laundry room would have two front-load washer/dryer stacks. A mini laundromat for the single man. I could pick up another TOL Frigidaire front-loading pair for a mere $2,000 (ha-ha-ha) and make it happen. But first I need to sow my wild oats and date a few impeller-based top-loaders. Then I'll be ready to settle down, LOL.

I'll bet the mini fins on the coin-op Whirlpool agitator are due to lower water levels. Larger fins would probably tear through a lot of fabrics. It looks like what WP is calling their Agi-Peller.


Post# 684395 , Reply# 14   6/18/2013 at 09:25 (3,957 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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the double stack dryer is a nice option......but I am game for the floor space available, just get two complete stacked washer/dryers....

Post# 684405 , Reply# 15   6/18/2013 at 10:28 (3,957 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Agi-Peller

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I think I will hold my opinion until I see it is action. If it whips back and forth like the agitator in an F&P machine, it might be worth something. Who knows.

Malcolm


Post# 684425 , Reply# 16   6/18/2013 at 12:39 (3,957 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
You're welcome, Frigilux

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Interesting. Like Malcolm, I was wondering if maybe it does the 360, and has multiple moves and arc sweeps. You know some day, we'll be marveling at these new fangled alien creatures, an AGI-PELLER. It's so funny.

Eugene, you must be right about the low water levels. The machine has no water level selector and one of the lights is "Load Sensing."
Worse, there's no switch for a fabric softener-- aka, a REAL -- rinse. I can't remember if there was a softener dispenser. All of this is exciting new territory to be explored.

I enjoyed your enthusiasm for the LG Wave Force. I've heard the new ones do not do that over-the-top maneuver where the water flushes up, over, and in like Niagara Falls.
Hurry up and get that date with LG WF so we can find out. LOL


Post# 684454 , Reply# 17   6/18/2013 at 14:35 (3,957 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I looked at the instruction card for the Whirlpool coin-op and there is no mention of the use of fabric softener. It also says the lid locks 30 seconds after pressing 'start' and remains locked until the end of the cycle. In other words: No fabric softener option with this machine. And I think you're right---the Agi-Peller will move like an impeller rather than having a traditional agitation stroke.

I'm so tempted to order one of those new LG top-loaders. There must be a reason it scores 41 points higher than the Immersion Care in Consumer Reports' tests. The Immersion Care is fun, but it is not a true impeller machine. I'd miss the ability to choose the water level....but I'd bet the LG is a much better washer overall. If I can save enough nickels and dimes over the summer I just might go for one. In the meantime, I'll have to avert my eyes from the LG dealer's window display. If I see one I probably won't be able to resist. And I get my hair cut in the adjoining building, which definitely puts me in the danger zone, LOL!


Post# 684501 , Reply# 18   6/18/2013 at 18:41 (3,957 days old) by WP-Dude22 (Trinidad and Tobago )        

i would like to see the agi-peller in action videos ppl

Post# 684732 , Reply# 19   6/20/2013 at 12:59 (3,955 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
It's only a matter of time:

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Brandon, before we see have movies of the Agi-peller; and

Eugene, before you buy the LG Wave Force. Remember the long waltz you did with the Immersion Care. I can't wait for the intense study you'll give the WF. I so hope it does that amazing thing with water currents.

It being summer, I pray your hair grows like the lawn requiring really high frequency cutting; and thus, the sooner the buy. LOL


Post# 684741 , Reply# 20   6/20/2013 at 15:00 (3,955 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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This person's got a similar LG:

CLICK HERE TO GO TO logixx's LINK


Post# 684776 , Reply# 21   6/20/2013 at 19:42 (3,955 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        
Finally got one!

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I am a Whirlpool employee and this is my personal opinion.

 

Courtesy of Whirlpool, I got an Agi-Peller, which does work more similarly to an impeller than an agitator from my understanding. The machine is supposed to use up to 18 gallons of water per cycle less than standard top load washers (I think those are usually around 40?) So it might do a full rinse and just require a Downy Ball, I'll have to ask at some point.

 

This Agi-Peller is used and was graciously given to me by one of the lab managers at Whirlpool. It's a little scratched up (mostly just the cap) but I look forward to putting it in one of my BD Whirlpool agitator washers to see what it does. I know the stroke and programming is different, but given that the water level is controlled manually and the machines share every other component aside from programming, it should give me an idea of what to expect should I ever decided to get the OPL version of this machine! I think the reason it has the center post is that most people wouldn't notice that the fins are shaped oddly and in theory, it should help reduce tangling in the tall, narrow tub.


Post# 684781 , Reply# 22   6/20/2013 at 20:22 (3,955 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Whoa, Jamie. It's SO Whirlpool!

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In the appliance store, I tried pulling the Agi-peller up off the drive shaft, but the salesmen were eyeing me suspiciously, (funny!)--and it wasn't yielding.

Will it pull straight up and off or is there a screw under the unsuspecting cap?

Its stark beauty harkens back to the original black Surgilator in a cool consistency of design and maybe a smidgen of brand pride as well.

Would love to see it pelling about, when you're free to film. The "OPL version" is new to me. What does it stand for? Thank You.


Post# 684782 , Reply# 23   6/20/2013 at 20:29 (3,955 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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There is a screw under the cap just like any other Whirlpool agitator!

 

OPL means "on-premises laundry." It's a term for non coin-operated commercial machines, like what you'd find at a gym, hospital, salon, etc. This version is usually more flexible.


Post# 684789 , Reply# 24   6/20/2013 at 21:02 (3,955 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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Thought the original Chrome tops turn by hand, no driver needed, no? The WP Convertible Agi has a thin wafer top hiding the screw which is what looks to be the case with the Agi-peller.

Post# 684791 , Reply# 25   6/20/2013 at 21:27 (3,955 days old) by repair-man (Pittsburgh PA)        

Whirlpool may just be on to something here. A impeller with a post in a machine with a more reasonable amount of water may solve some of the problems associated with very little water plain impeller AND low water agitator designs. That is to say IF it can achieve reasonable turnover because of the post it would be easier on the clothes than a regular agitator. Although I am only speculating how it would work.

Post# 684793 , Reply# 26   6/20/2013 at 22:31 (3,955 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Agi-Peller!

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This looks somewhat interesting. I work at home depot in appliances and wonder if I will see them use them in their TL BOL models.

Post# 684829 , Reply# 27   6/21/2013 at 08:28 (3,954 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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I am a Whirlpool employee and this is my personal opinion.

It seems that the Maytag version of this machine has showed up on Maytag's commercial laundry website. This machine is also available in a touch pad version. Wash time and an extra rinse can be added. According to the manual, the Normal cycle does do a bath style rinse but the Powerwash (Heavy Duty) and Delicate cycles do spray rinses.

I think I need one...


CLICK HERE TO GO TO Pulsator's LINK


Post# 684885 , Reply# 28   6/21/2013 at 12:41 (3,954 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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Jamie ~ Any machine that conducts the rinse through spraying is one after my heart. I once passed up the Resource Saver Whirlpool that spray rinsed using recirculated water which was spun off and refreshed several times. Wondering if this is a page out of their old playbook. Great of you can find out working in the heart of the matter as you do.
It must be amazing.

Pete ~ I'll be peeking inside as many WP's as I can find on my weekend bike-rides.

Edward ~ Remember when we were warned of dire consequences to clothing if we had too big a load and too little water ? You gave me another thought: People are used to seeing an Agitator in a TL, so this is part of the persuasion campaign for lower water usage.

Jamie's link shows the new Whirl-Tag with a 20 gallon total water intake and a 700 RPM spin, not too shabby for either!


Post# 685067 , Reply# 29   6/22/2013 at 12:39 (3,953 days old) by washerdude (Canada )        
When I Thought

Should The Agipeller be in direct drive washers insted? direct drive washers have more powerfull agitation then the belt drives


but wait, the agepeller looks a bit fimiliar.


Post# 685199 , Reply# 30   6/23/2013 at 11:18 (3,952 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Love the biggees!

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I saw a video of the new belt drive and it's the long slow stroke of yore; in fact, the current pattern looked and sounded like a Maytag Gyrator! The guy never added laundry so it was harder to judge actual roll-over.

Post# 685204 , Reply# 31   6/23/2013 at 11:31 (3,952 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Gotta love Whirlpool

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They had to satisfy the water police on the regular cycle usage, but they are listening to their customers: if you select the fabric softener rinse and the super wash,
you C A N get F U L L fills for the whole load. Y A Y ! Imagine that we have to stand up and hoot for this. It's all so crazy, we can only laugh.


Post# 686262 , Reply# 32   6/29/2013 at 08:22 (3,946 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)        
@mickeyd

Looks like Whirlpool is working both sides to keep the peace, I do wonder about the longevity of these latest top loaders ?

Post# 686310 , Reply# 33   6/29/2013 at 13:58 (3,946 days old) by Aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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And laughed I did Mike which was in my other thread ..great thread .
They said it might fill all the way up if it senses full load or heavier I imagine.


Post# 686312 , Reply# 34   6/29/2013 at 14:06 (3,946 days old) by Aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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The Agi-Peller does have a older look very Whirlpool .
Almost looks like the classic Surgelator without the vanes.
Im VERY HAPPY FOR YOU Jamie !
Wishing you the best in that environment , wish I was next to you.
Classic Surgelator.


Post# 686315 , Reply# 35   6/29/2013 at 14:13 (3,946 days old) by Aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Augmented by a new app for cameras.
My take on a low profile Surgelator.
Mike seeing the impeller with a shaft is going to be interesting
with low water and reverse rollover.


Post# 686749 , Reply# 36   7/1/2013 at 22:57 (3,943 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Happy, happy, happy Darren

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What a great pic. Also love the one of the "squinched" and scrunched down Surgilator. It looks amazing.

Maybe Jamie can take this pic to the head honchos and have it maufactured.

Yes, Roscoe, now both the Whirlpool and the Maytag have allowed real fills again, out-smarting the water nazis. It's like Hogan's Heroes.

But how long before Colonel Klink finds out? LOL


Post# 687420 , Reply# 37   7/5/2013 at 07:57 (3,940 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
And now GE

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is going to have to address this Deep Water Wash in their top loaders!! Its a water race to see who can get to the top of the tub!!



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