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| Post# 690597 , Reply# 1 7/19/2013 at 21:14 (3,926 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
Robert | ||
| Post# 690659 , Reply# 2 7/20/2013 at 05:31 (3,926 days old) by servisslimline (England, Brighton & Hove) | ||
Miele rinsing | ||
| Post# 690756 , Reply# 7 7/20/2013 at 16:08 (3,925 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland) | ||
Miele rinsing
I just don't get why people are saying the rinse performance is bad. Here in Edinburgh we have very soft water, I tend to use unit dosed detergent which can get very sudsy but my machine copes well with rinsing. I have had problems in the past with Bold powder/gels sending my machine into sudslock and making the machine add extra rinses (5 in total) however I stopped using Bold as the cleaning power was not great.
Most modern Miele machines have the capability to do five rinses on a cotton wash if you select water plus (extra rinse), a temp less than 60 deg and a spin speed below 700rpm however, I feel this is a waste of time as you get very good rinsing when leaving the machine at factory settings. I am siding with Matt here but add if your Miele is not rinsing properly check the pump filter, if that fails change your detergent. | ||
| Post# 690763 , Reply# 8 7/20/2013 at 16:40 (3,925 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK) | ||
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Rinsing I never said rinsing was bad. It's just not as good as my older machines. I'm not using different detergent in my older machines either. Neither are my filters blocked! Tom | ||
Post# 690849 , Reply# 9 7/21/2013 at 03:51 (3,925 days old) by foraloysius  (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Are you using the same amount of detergent in your Miele as in your Tricity Bendix? You might try using less detergent because the Miele probably uses less water in the main wash than the TB. With less detergent you might get a equal strong solution. Less detergent means better rinse results in that case.
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| Post# 690953 , Reply# 10 7/21/2013 at 14:27 (3,924 days old) by SamsungFl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
Miele Rinsing...
Nice thread guys!
Been a while since I've posted on here so thought I'd have my say on this one :-) With regards to Miele's and rinsing I cant say I've had any issues with ours, I find it quite effective with the long spins in between to be honest. I must say though that extra water defiantly doesn't contribute to a better rinse on the whole, something I didn't really believe until a few years ago. On the contrary to this though, I do have my Miele set to its Maximum water level and have done now for the last 3 years, but that is just purely my preference, visually I just find a deep rinse nicer to watch, before I had this option selected the water level would vary depending on what was sensed, and even with low water levels rinsing was never a problem. I believe that as long as there is enough water for the clothes to tumble around in like during the main wash, then that's enough for a good rinse without taking the other variables into consideration like the length of spins in between etc. I've also found other machines to be good at rinsing too with low water levels, such as a few Beko machines I have used, and again they spend a fair bit of time spinning after the main wash and subsequent rinses. But to tell you all the truth, I'm just a big water hog I think LOL! Hope this helps Rich :) 
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| Post# 690966 , Reply# 12 7/21/2013 at 15:56 (3,924 days old) by servisslimline (England, Brighton & Hove) | ||
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Rinsing
I use around the same amount of powder as i did in the tb give or take 40 ml because of the bigger drum, but if i use any less i get poor results. I wash the same way as i did in the tb yet the tb gives better results. Ive been told its the powders im using but i used the same ones in the tb, bold, easy and daz and the tb would clean everything 1st time all the time, yet the miele seems to struggle. Its meant to be one of the best machines going, yet its clearly not as good.
Phil | ||
| Post# 691063 , Reply# 13 7/21/2013 at 22:53 (3,924 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania) | ||
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WOW Live in the USA.....and buy any current machine......then you will know what having a little water in a rinse is about! | ||
| Post# 691334 , Reply# 15 7/23/2013 at 06:36 (3,923 days old) by Hoover1100 (U.K.) | ||
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Hi Tom How would the max rinse be selected then. I tried what you said and after pressing start 4 times the anti-crease/finish light came on but not much else! Matt | ||
| Post# 691378 , Reply# 17 7/23/2013 at 11:40 (3,922 days old) by w5872 () | ||
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Another load off my mind... Going to do the next wash with a half load and auto load detect switched off. I'll post again in 3 hours or so and let y'all know my findings. | ||
| Post# 691417 , Reply# 20 7/23/2013 at 15:22 (3,922 days old) by w5872 () | ||
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Auto load detection So it's switched off and the wash proceeded as if a full load. No other differences to note. Clothes got a great rinsing, it's amazing how much fresher well rinsed clothes feel. Bouncier. | ||
| Post# 691561 , Reply# 21 7/24/2013 at 07:51 (3,921 days old) by servisslimline (England, Brighton & Hove) | ||
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Tricity bendix
Yea i did mean tricity bendix, mines been reliable from day 1 never broke down and has done upto 12 loads a week, yes i agree the drum is quite small but other than that ive found it to be the best machine ive ever used performance wise, theres no issues with thr belt. If anything my zanussi fla1002 is the bad one, that gives bad results and yes the belt disintegrated after only 8 years. I like th programming of the tb over the zanussi as it dosent waste time like the zanussi does with antisuds tumbles or whatever they are. Also the tb is much quieter than the zanussi and alot quicker
Phil | ||
| Post# 691627 , Reply# 22 7/24/2013 at 15:40 (3,921 days old) by servisslimline (England, Brighton & Hove) | ||
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Miele fault
Another thing. Not sure if its happened to anyone else's but i know its happened to a friend of mines machine, not on here but on youtube, the problem is that the machine will freeze mid cycle, still washes away but the time dosent count down, its happened on the main wash and rinses so far, was just wondering why it does it as everytime it happens i have to cancel the programme to make it work properly again
Phil | ||
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Post# 691688 , Reply# 23 7/24/2013 at 17:17 (3,921 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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| Post# 691696 , Reply# 25 7/24/2013 at 17:35 (3,921 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
I'm noticing a pattern here with threads about machines turning into threads about detergent.
Of course the guy from Halo will say that. He's in competition with P&G and unilever, so he'll say anything he can to make the Halo product look better. That's marketing for you. I've never used Halo, so can't say anything, but Persil and Ariel haven't got 50+ years of glowing reputation (Persil power aside) for nothing. Now, back to the Miele? | ||
| Post# 691700 , Reply# 26 7/24/2013 at 17:40 (3,921 days old) by liberatordeluxe (UK) | ||
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What would you like say about Mr Miele then dear? | ||
| Post# 691701 , Reply# 27 7/24/2013 at 17:41 (3,921 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland) | ||
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Chris | ||
| Post# 691704 , Reply# 29 7/24/2013 at 17:43 (3,921 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 691705 , Reply# 30 7/24/2013 at 17:46 (3,921 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 691706 , Reply# 31 7/24/2013 at 17:46 (3,921 days old) by liberatordeluxe (UK) | ||
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Can get Ecover Oxygen bleach for that. My guess is Allergy would use high water levels or double rinsing as they call it?? Or a bit like 'Medic Rinse' on a LG where the water reaches 40C. | ||
| Post# 691709 , Reply# 33 7/24/2013 at 17:50 (3,921 days old) by w5872 () | ||
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Re:Miele medic Rinse But Miele has "MAX WATER LEVEL"..So there would hardly be two options for the same thing? | ||
| Post# 691710 , Reply# 34 7/24/2013 at 17:51 (3,921 days old) by w5872 () | ||
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Aquacycle Aquacycle, had an ould nosey round your profile there. You had a Bendix between 07 and 09? ...Tell me more darling. | ||
| Post# 691714 , Reply# 36 7/24/2013 at 17:56 (3,921 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Well, Robert sweetie....
Firstly, call me Chris. Secondly, here is the Bendix we had. It replaced a Zanussi FJ1295 in 2006. My Mum left it in her old house when she moved in 2010. It was a great machine, although the cycles were long. It had the old style Zanussi drum with the stainless steel, moulded paddles and not the later plastic paddles 
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| Post# 691723 , Reply# 38 7/24/2013 at 18:07 (3,921 days old) by liberatordeluxe (UK) | ||
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Sexy Chris :-) | ||
| Post# 691725 , Reply# 39 7/24/2013 at 18:09 (3,921 days old) by w5872 () | ||
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liberator deluxe hands off bud! :P | ||
| Post# 691726 , Reply# 40 7/24/2013 at 18:11 (3,921 days old) by liberatordeluxe (UK) | ||
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lol | ||
| Post# 691730 , Reply# 41 7/24/2013 at 18:14 (3,921 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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I assure you, I know who I'd rather have.
Anyway, back to the Bendix.... I believe ours was a Euronics exclusive and probably the last of this style. This style originally had mechanical timers but these were upgraded to electronic controls about half way through the run. I also believe this style was the more basic range, running alongside the Zanussi XC's, but actually ended up lasting longer than they did. | ||
| Post# 691731 , Reply# 42 7/24/2013 at 18:18 (3,921 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Post# 691748 , Reply# 43 7/24/2013 at 19:10 (3,921 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 691884 , Reply# 45 7/25/2013 at 10:50 (3,920 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Our W3241 and W961 both froze some times. Mostly in the end-phase of the wash, as the temperature wasn't reached yet. And if it did not reach the temperature within 40min, it mostly frooze.... I know that short does 5 min, normal 15 min and Hygiene 30 min wash at least after the temperature is reached the first time and the whole time, the temp is holden and ensured. | ||
| Post# 692012 , Reply# 47 7/26/2013 at 03:54 (3,920 days old) by w5872 () | ||
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| Post# 692017 , Reply# 48 7/26/2013 at 05:09 (3,920 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Hi Robert,
Friendly tip - watch your language on the forum. Believe me, I swear like a trouper and I love how utterly vile the C word is, but some people might not love swearing that much and the mods might have to step in. Just a heads up :). Here is a pic of my Mum's 2010 Zanussi jetsystem 1600. I have to say, it's a fab machine. Unlike the jet on the one pictured about, it does have the more cylindrical spray - looks a bit like it's weeing. It's also incredibly well balanced and quiet. My only dislike on it is the ridiculously long cottons cycles. 2 and half hours for a cottons 40 is utterly ridiculous. Chris 
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| Post# 692034 , Reply# 49 7/26/2013 at 07:29 (3,919 days old) by w5872 () | ||
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oh would ya stop! I love to swear but APOLOGIES MODS! 2.5 hours is nothing. This one took THREE! | ||
| Post# 692040 , Reply# 50 7/26/2013 at 07:57 (3,919 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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I love to swear
Me too. As any of the guys on here who have met me will tell you, I drop the C, F and S bombs regularly into daily conversation.
I'm sure that Fred and Robert are not remotely phased by swearing in "real life", but on here as there are so many of us of different ages and different backgrounds of life, it's better to bite your tongue and keep everyone happy. | ||
| Post# 692114 , Reply# 51 7/26/2013 at 16:48 (3,919 days old) by w5872 () | ||
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Cool So I'll re-post the pic without swearing at the big CBox :) I'm not sure if you can see the blue spray jet? 
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| Post# 692225 , Reply# 52 7/27/2013 at 10:54 (3,918 days old) by liberatordeluxe (UK) | ||
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2.5 hours is how long it takes on most modern machines today thanks to the silly EU energy ratings. | ||
| Post# 692233 , Reply# 53 7/27/2013 at 11:51 (3,918 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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@liberatordeluxe.... | ||
| Post# 692235 , Reply# 54 7/27/2013 at 11:56 (3,918 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland) | ||
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I can do an average 60deg wash in around an hour too, even with 12 bath towels my machine will do a 60 deg wash in 90mins.
Mind you I know someone with an 8kg Hotpoint Futura and the wash times on that are stupidly long, 3hrs 49 for a 40 deg cotton wash, it will knock time off if it detects less than a full load and if you select time saver the wash takes 1hr49. | ||
| Post# 692256 , Reply# 57 7/27/2013 at 13:18 (3,918 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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Post# 692278 , Reply# 58 7/27/2013 at 14:41 (3,918 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Panasonic does a full 40° with 3 rinses in 2:01, 60° in 2:40 and 90° in 2:40, too. All time cut down to the half with speed except 90° which takes 1:45 then. But you never get that 70L drum full enough to sense a full load without any cheating... So add Panasonic to the list :D | ||
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Post# 692314 , Reply# 60 7/27/2013 at 18:39 (3,918 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Like that Zanussi with the blu jet. Whats the different between Jetsytem+ and normal cycles??? | ||
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Post# 692504 , Reply# 62 7/28/2013 at 13:41 (3,917 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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WTF??? Reusing the spun out wter for rinsing??? That means no rinsing at all, doesn't it? | ||
| Post# 692673 , Reply# 63 7/28/2013 at 17:02 (3,917 days old) by w5872 () | ||
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Oh yes Hence it being absoloutely useless at rinsing! | ||
| Post# 692674 , Reply# 64 7/28/2013 at 17:03 (3,917 days old) by w5872 () | ||
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And the best part... It lists it's rinsing system as "total exchange" | ||
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