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Raytheon/Goodman Amana |
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Post# 692471   7/28/2013 at 12:41 (3,922 days old) by bwoods ()   |   | |
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This is a Raytheon built Amana, correct? This is what I understand from reading the AW postings. It has the smaller opening. This post was last edited 07/28/2013 at 13:00 |
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Post# 692473 , Reply# 1   7/28/2013 at 12:43 (3,922 days old) by bwoods ()   |   | |
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This is the same machine in appearance except for the larger opening. Is this still Raytheon, or was enlarging the opening the initial change the Goodman made when purchasing Amana? |
Post# 692575 , Reply# 4   7/28/2013 at 15:07 (3,922 days old) by imperial70 (MA USA)   |   | |
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Post# 692578 , Reply# 5   7/28/2013 at 15:08 (3,922 days old) by imperial70 (MA USA)   |   | |
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thread #16603 in the deluxe forum has a posting by Laundress that explains the Goodman/Amana/SpeedQueen history very nicely (IMHO). paul CLICK HERE TO GO TO imperial70's LINK |
Post# 692580 , Reply# 6   7/28/2013 at 15:10 (3,922 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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the only true way to know about these older machines is to check their model number label, and see if its made my Raytheon or Alliance....
first pic is Raytheon, fill flume issues, belt chewing issues, and tub seal issues second and third pic, most likely Ratheon, fill flume relocation corrected, still had seal issues, not sure when, but the pump became direct drive off the motor, not a two belt unit... now these units in the pic are Alliance built.....hard to tell sometimes, but as always, best bet, read the label.... |
Post# 692800 , Reply# 8   7/29/2013 at 06:55 (3,921 days old) by bwoods ()   |   | |
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This is a control panel that I have not seen before, it looks like Raytheon was using some crossovers designs for the escutcheons on their Amana and Speed Queen machines. |
Post# 692816 , Reply# 10   7/29/2013 at 07:42 (3,921 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Raytheon owned both SQ, Modern Maid, Coloric and Amana for many years, when Raytheon wanted to get out of the appliance business they sold it to Goodman [ the air-conditioning company ] I don't think that Goodman ever had any serious intention of staying in the home appliance business.
They quickly began selling off parts of of the companies they bought and the commercial part of SQ never was part of Goodman and it became its own company and used the name Alliance Laundry Systems, ALSs agreed not to compete in the residential laundry market for about 10 years after this all this reshuffling.
Goodman continued selling off assets and closing down factories and selling appliances mainly under the Amana name. Just before GM took control of Amana, Amana had introduced a line of built-in refrigerators to compete with Sub-Zero and while nice looking they were plagued with problems.
GM sold the line to Viking who immediately started selling built-ins and they are still a total POS. One of the venders we deal with is exchanging and scrapping as many as a dozen Viking Professional BIRs every month. When Goodman got done gutting pillaging SQ, Amana, MM, and Coloric they sold what was left to Maytag.
While the GM built and SAV MT versions of the SQ washer design did have more seal and main bearing failures than earlier SQs it should be remembered that the SQ perforated basket washers from their introduction around 1980 were never great washers and always had plenty of early [ less than 6 years ] seal and bearing failures, water pump problems, they were belt eaters and generally noisy average performing machines at best. They actually got better under GM and MT in capacity, spin speed and overall performance.
We our currently selling a lot of SQ TL washers and while they have greatly improved the seal design that lead to so many early main bearing failures they still [ like every washer ever built ] still have faults. Current TL SQs are very difficult to repair and most will be junked when they eventually develop seal, bearing or transmission problems. They really need a dual-action style agitator and they need to go to a neutral drain like they do on the machines they sell in Australia.
I always hate hulling away a 20 YO WP or KM DD washer and installing a new SQ knowing that I am hulling away a better performing washer than the new one I am installing. John. |
Post# 692826 , Reply# 11   7/29/2013 at 08:50 (3,921 days old) by bwoods ()   |   | |
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Speed Queen was a McGraw-Edison company, as was Modern Maid, at the time Raytheon purchased them. Of course Modern Main originally was D&M before McGraw-Edison (Toastmaster) took them over. |
Post# 692837 , Reply# 13   7/29/2013 at 10:10 (3,921 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 692918 , Reply# 14   7/29/2013 at 13:56 (3,921 days old) by bwoods ()   |   | |
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Modern Maid dishwashers were still made by D&M after McGraw-Edison bought MM and Speed Queen. |
Post# 692982 , Reply# 15   7/29/2013 at 18:24 (3,921 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Had no official ties when it came to ownership of each other, as I mentioned earlier D&M made DWs for nearly 30 different brand names and D&M was not tied to a single one of these names. And wisely they never tried to market a D&M DW on its own merits which would have made the Yugo Automobile [ in the US ] look successful, LOL. |
Post# 692990 , Reply# 16   7/29/2013 at 18:34 (3,921 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Hi John,
You'll be interested to hear that the SQ's now on sale in Australia have gone back to a spin-drain, according to literature i was recently sent from the local distributor. My model, the AWN552 is no longer on sale, they've gone to the version with electro-mechanical controls: AWNA62. My guess is its probably expensive for the Australian distributors to have electric pumps and different timers fitted for our market only. Cheers Leon |
Post# 693005 , Reply# 17   7/29/2013 at 19:05 (3,920 days old) by bwoods ()   |   | |
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McGraw-Edison decided to continue with the contract, with D&M, to produce dishwashers as was the case prior to the acquisition of Modern Maid. |