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Post# 696888   8/16/2013 at 15:16 (3,898 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)        

www.maytag.com/-[MVWC300BW]-11071...

Love the look of this new MAYTAG washer!!




Post# 696897 , Reply# 1   8/16/2013 at 16:05 (3,898 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Notice in the specs that it does NOT have "Auto Load Size Sensing Technology."

Also notice that the hoses are not included. That way if the hoses ever cause a leak or a flood which causes damage, Whirlpool is not responsible.



Post# 696908 , Reply# 2   8/16/2013 at 17:18 (3,898 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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I caught the "hoses not included" bit the other night at the Home Depot. I thought it was either the manufacturer getting cheap (think printers with no cable) or they were giving the accessory sale to HD. I didn't consider liability, although somehow I'd think there is a disclaimer somewhere in the fine print, no?

Post# 696920 , Reply# 3   8/16/2013 at 17:56 (3,898 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Phil, They do that with the dishwashers also. Installers have to buy the adapter for a hose to connect it so that no part of the water connection is covered by WP.

Post# 696949 , Reply# 4   8/16/2013 at 19:37 (3,898 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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These have been out for some time. WhirlTag changed the design of the control knobs - Whirlpool has all-black knobs now. Some (of the wash plate) top loaders also come with a dedicated Deep Water Wash cycle that is no longer part of the Heavy Duty cycle.

Pictures are up on Whirlpool's Digital Library.

Post# 696978 , Reply# 5   8/16/2013 at 21:25 (3,898 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Well...

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After looking through the website, I am not really impressed. Looks like a minor cosmetic change. Nothing special. Am I missing something?

Malcolm

Post# 696980 , Reply# 6   8/16/2013 at 21:42 (3,898 days old) by thefixer ()        

"Notice in the specs that it does NOT have "Auto Load Size Sensing Technology"

Yet, in the operator manual it states: "Sensing This washer will perform a series of spins to check for load balance. During this time, a series of clicks
and a whirring noise signal that sensing technology is determining if there is an off-balance load."

This is just another Whirlpool belt drive VMW piece of junk

Post# 696983 , Reply# 7   8/16/2013 at 21:55 (3,898 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)        

It has a manual water level adjustment knob on the machine, pan and zoom, and you can see it! Speed Queen is the ONLY brand of top loader that comes with inlet hoses now.
This Maytag control panel has new knobs as previously mentioned, but a few different cycles as well, and different rinse selections, it is new to the US market. Can't someone just like the way a washer looks??? LOL
Mike

Post# 696984 , Reply# 8   8/16/2013 at 22:01 (3,898 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)        
plus...............

 it has a soil selection knob to adjust wash time.......Sorry forgot to put that in my last post.

Post# 697015 , Reply# 9   8/17/2013 at 00:19 (3,898 days old) by norgechef (Saint George New Brunswick )        
Argggghhh

 I have always been mad that they market Maytag appliances like they are actually made by Maytag but now I see they are also using Maytag advertising from back before they closed and they are also taking pictures of those crappy suspension rods to try and make it look like the washer is a classic dependable Maytag...HAHAHA!

The DependableClean wash system was used in advertising for Maytag washers back when I bought my Maytag Performa and I see they are still advertising that as if it even exists, you wont see that advertised on that particular washer but on the more basic models its there.

Also the ''wrinkle control'' cycle was invented by Maytag so more people would use that cycle since most people never used the permanent press cycle on top load washers which is what the Wrinkle Free cycle is.

The LoadFlex agitator advertising was yet another name invented by Maytag for the agitators in the Atlantis/Performa/Legacy series washers. Instead, this is actually a triple roll action agitator by Whirlpool in the Centennial washers, I think they should AT LEAST design a different agitator for Maytag washers.

I mean for god sake's Whirlpool is probably one of the most wealthy appliance company's out there don't you think they could create a bit of a different design for washers that are supposedly more dependable instead of using ALL Whirlpool designed washers full of parts that could be found in ALL of Whirlpool, Kenmore, Amana, Inglis, Roper, Estate and Crosley washers! Come on Whirlpool, Maytag is supposed to be better than the rest not a Fancy silver/stainless steel control panel with the Maytag emblem stuck on it.

I expected ALLOT more and allot better from you Whirlpool! Ever since they took over Maytag the only good thing they ever did was use a stainless steel tub in a direct drive washer with the Maytag name on it.

At first I was sad when I heard the news on Whirlpool buying out Maytag but I thought it might of been for the better, I thought they might come up with some more dependable washer designs that had there own parts...not complete Whirlpool washer designs with the Maytag logo stuck on it, talk about a disappointment!

Post# 697018 , Reply# 10   8/17/2013 at 00:29 (3,898 days old) by norgechef (Saint George New Brunswick )        
Oh

 And the soil selection knob was yet another feature created by the real Maytag, personally I don't think its fair they get to take Maytag's advertising... if they wanna use a crappy washer design with all Whirlpool parts they should come up with their own advertising instead of just being lazy and using the same old same old. This is a screenshot from a manual for the MAV5920EWW washer, a washer made from Maytag before they closed...as you can see it has the fake soil selection knob that just changed the speeds, wonder what it does on the new Whirlpool/Maytag version?

Post# 697051 , Reply# 11   8/17/2013 at 07:46 (3,898 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I believe that load size sensing is something entirely different from load balance sensing. The first determines the water level and the second determines if the load is balanced enough to go into spin speed.

Why should WP be expected to create something different for Maytag? Maytag did not create something different for decades. True, they adopted the dual action agitator that WP created as soon as the patents allowed and they increased the size of the tub opening to make it look larger, but they did nothing like invent a Design 2000 Direct Drive washer like WP did. To be able to have a truly large capacity washer, Maytag went and bought Norge and did nothing to improve that line. The Maytag top loader machines had nothing to offer that was modern or highly efficient. WP was the company that did the research and started evolving top loaders with the Collapso, Resource Saver and similar technologies. WP had the technologies to offer to Maytag. Maytag had a name coupled with a steadily diminishing reputation and market share. Why, in an increasingly tight market for toploaders, should WP go back and attempt to reinvent the wheel? Top loaders are not the future of laundry appliances given the increasingly tight water restrictions, even if ever-growing parts of the world are going to be under water as the glaciers melt and sea levels rise.

Post# 697073 , Reply# 12   8/17/2013 at 09:47 (3,898 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)        
Soil level settings........................

 adjust the amount of wash time...ie. Heavy Soil = 14 minute wash, Normal Soil = 10 minute wash. The machine you showed was not built by Maytag per say, but a NORGE designed washer which was the downfall of the MAYTAG Corp. The Soil selector knob aon the washer you showed also adjusts wash time not speeds, as you can see on the cycle selector knob, the speeds are already predetermined by your cycle selection. I think this machine is going to appeal to alot of consumers. I know that the 3.6 cu ft wash tub can only effectively was the same load as a 3.0, but I think this is how manufacturers are getting around water restrictions...larger tub uses less water, when it actually is the same tub produced all along, washing the same size loads all along! Sear Kenmore 3.0 wash 16 bath towels in one load!! Remember that advertising.
Mike



Post# 697087 , Reply# 13   8/17/2013 at 10:54 (3,898 days old) by JeffG ()        

Looks great imo, until you pop the hood. The corkscrew shredder agitator is a deal breaker for me. Yes I know everyone uses them now (except SQ).

Post# 697099 , Reply# 14   8/17/2013 at 12:08 (3,897 days old) by norgechef (Saint George New Brunswick )        
Well,

 I thought they bought Maytag to improve the product line, not to slap a name on a Direct Drive washer, sure they were dependable but they were not anything more than a Direct Drive washer, a washer that is seen in 1 out of 2-3 homes in america!

I just think they should make some kind of washer that is just for Maytag...whether it be top load, front load or HE Top Load, just something to actually make the products worth the money.

I know Maytag's products were not very good quality when they closed but with a little improvements I think they could have kept many of Maytag's line of appliances on the market.

Like the Maytag Neptune and Neptune TL for example, sure they didn't always last a long time but with a little improvements from Whirlpool I think they would have been an ok design, after all at least they were not a Whirlpool design like almost every appliance on the market in the us. Why would a person buy a Maytag when they could just buy a Whirlpool...

Post# 697107 , Reply# 15   8/17/2013 at 13:23 (3,897 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Why would a person buy a Maytag when they could just buy a Whirlpool...
Because the typical consumer doesn't understand about the mechanicals ... i.e. that the mechanisms are now the same for both brands (and currently or in the past -- Admiral, Amana, Inglis, Estate, Roper, Kenmore, KitchenAid, Kirkland).

A friend has/had an early 2000s Kenmore pair.  The dryer originally had the skid-type idler.  A problem developed with it, he called for service.  The assigned service tech replaced the idler and belt or whatever was involved, explained to him about the skid idler and subsequent revision back to pulley-idler.  He was "outraged" and swore he'd never buy another Kenmore appliance.  Well, he hasn't.  When the washer went down three years ago (I don't know the details of what was the problem with it), he bought a ... ta da! ... Maytag.  He didn't recognize that the mechanicals are the same as his previous Kenmore, didn't quite know what to say when I brought that to his attention last year, LOL.  He still has the dryer far as I know.

Post# 697109 , Reply# 16   8/17/2013 at 13:53 (3,897 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Is it me, or does the control panel of the Maytag MAV5920EWW look a lot like the new Whirlpool belt drive control panel. I wonder where Whirlpool got the idea from?

Post# 697123 , Reply# 17   8/17/2013 at 15:52 (3,897 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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This is the lowest featureed WP I could find

(c) access.whirlpool.com/wdl/
Post# 697124 , Reply# 18   8/17/2013 at 15:53 (3,897 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Slightly changed pattern in the drum for MOL to TOL

 

(c) access.whirlpool.com/wdl/
Post# 697125 , Reply# 19   8/17/2013 at 15:55 (3,897 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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The TOL models remain unchanged, besides the differnet knob, and the Sanitary with Oxi cycle now is remaned into Sanitary with Oxi and Steam.

 

No changes for the front loaders. The WFW98 (?) got a Smart Grid button.


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Post# 697127 , Reply# 20   8/17/2013 at 16:30 (3,897 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Smart Grid Bottom

 Is that like what you get when you sit in a wicker chair in a bathing suit?

Post# 697133 , Reply# 21   8/17/2013 at 16:41 (3,897 days old) by Aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Interesting nice new hole pattern in the wash basket.
I just don't like the wash plate belt drives..
models, the duel agitator belt drives are fine.

They say that Maytag models offer more heft to the package.
In the top of the line models are they still using TRUE
F & P Magnectic Direct Drive motors ..

The lock out feature really bothers me but
seems like UL got them on that issue..
Why not a 3 to 5 min open delay so you can
Check while its on button behind the control panel..
Lock out for normal consumers is making washday worse
for average people who do laundry.

Belt drive wash plates Gezzz.

Post# 697201 , Reply# 22   8/17/2013 at 22:50 (3,897 days old) by WP-Dude22 (Trinidad and Tobago )        

like the new drum on the wash plate models hate the new WP control panel looks better on the maytag ....
and honestly ... yall expected WP to do better i find that stainless steel drums should be standard now even on lower end washers ....

for me the lid should lock just before spin on models with manual water level control since there is no need to sense balance (no sensing spins) as the washer will redistribute during agitation

on models with auto load sense locking during sensing spins is essential as the washer uses the sensing spins to sense balance and load weight to estimate the load size before it goes into sensing stroke agitation to accurately sense the load

as for the agitators whirlpool could have did sum thing new and i hope water flow into the machine has been rectified i mean that water restriction sucks

motherboard should have new coding and the lock mechanism should have less issues / better design by now and i mean whirlpool could have also raised the spin speed on all base models to 900 RPMS instead of just cosmetic changes. i suspect that they also changed agitation profiles a bit (i think the washer should do more 90 degree wash strokes @ a higher speed in between the 180 degree long strokes heck maybe a 360 stroke in the mix). also hoped the quiet down the drain pumps and ship a longer drain hose.

Post# 697242 , Reply# 23   8/18/2013 at 06:36 (3,897 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Control Panel Knobs

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I felt the control panel knobs on a current WP range offering and they are absolutely the flimsiest plastic EVER.  I instantly ruled out WP/MT as a possible replacement for my kitchen renovation.  Making GE the front runner at this point.

 

Malcolm
Post# 697273 , Reply# 24   8/18/2013 at 10:47 (3,897 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
when looking at the control panel

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when i look at the control panel it looks like they are using the bravo control panel design

Post# 697324 , Reply# 25   8/18/2013 at 18:25 (3,896 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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The top-loading Frigidaire Immersion Care is also belt drive. Guess it's more common than I thought. I figured all the impeller/wash plate machines would be direct drive. Wrong!

Post# 697331 , Reply# 26   8/18/2013 at 19:33 (3,896 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Whirlpool's belt drive

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Machines are too noisy. At least the HE models are. They should have stuck with the F&P design.

Malcolm

Post# 697499 , Reply# 27   8/19/2013 at 12:50 (3,895 days old) by washerdude (Canada )        

i like the way the new maytag looks. but it does have some ups and downs now....

Post# 697659 , Reply# 28   8/20/2013 at 02:50 (3,895 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Too heck with these new WP-Maytag things-I'll just buy a washer at the SWAP SHOP-the older ones!They have agitators--and fill up with WATER!These new machines are just crusher bait!!The hungry crushers are just out there waiting for 'em!

Post# 698330 , Reply# 29   8/23/2013 at 04:29 (3,892 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Basic model

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I found this picture on the acces.whirlpool site. It's a model with only water level switch and temperature control. Just like in the old days. I bet though the rinse is a spray rinse (?).



Post# 698351 , Reply# 30   8/23/2013 at 08:06 (3,892 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
seeing these new washer i can say that i would go huebsch

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seeing these new whirlpool maytag agitator washer even do i use the inglis whirlpool brand since i was a child i would go with the canadien speed queen huebsch top load model zwn 432 or buy a vintage refurbish wsher dryer set like this set if i had to make a choice

Post# 698572 , Reply# 31   8/24/2013 at 11:18 (3,891 days old) by Lightedcontrols ()        

I replace the boards in these machines continually. These machines are plagued with problems. I usually am called to service them at about 1 year and a month old. Just out of warranty. More Whirlpool junk


Post# 744581 , Reply# 32   3/23/2014 at 19:22 (3,679 days old) by washerdude (Canada )        

What model is this? I really think they should make that unit.


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