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Post# 699257   8/27/2013 at 14:05 (3,865 days old) by lancethecook (Driffield England)        

I have never seen one of these and it's listed under top loading washer.
I have a feeling that the agitator might be missing.
Whoever buys it , can I come and look at it when you get it home?
Hope the link works.


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Post# 699258 , Reply# 1   8/27/2013 at 14:08 (3,865 days old) by lancethecook (Driffield England)        
Sorry

I put this here by mistake , it should have been in shoppers square and I don't know how to move it.
Sorry.


Post# 699260 , Reply# 2   8/27/2013 at 14:15 (3,865 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Where is it...

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Ebay, Gumtree or other?

Link shows house for sale!!


Post# 699264 , Reply# 3   8/27/2013 at 14:18 (3,865 days old) by lancethecook (Driffield England)        
Sorry again

I just can't get the hang of this damn iPad.
Go to eBay and search top loading washing machine.
It's there.
Let me know what you think.


Post# 699265 , Reply# 4   8/27/2013 at 14:19 (3,865 days old) by lancethecook (Driffield England)        
New link

Hopefully I have managed it this time.

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Post# 699268 , Reply# 5   8/27/2013 at 14:28 (3,865 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Parnall SpinWasher

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Wow, the 1960`s Parnall Spinwasher with heater....


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Post# 699269 , Reply# 6   8/27/2013 at 14:32 (3,865 days old) by lancethecook (Driffield England)        
I should have put this in shoppers square

Sorry about that Mr Moderator, perhaps you would be kind enough to move the post for me.
Thank you


Post# 699273 , Reply# 7   8/27/2013 at 14:39 (3,865 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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VERY neat machine!   A 3KW heater, WOW!    

 

BUT missing the most important part - - the agitator!

 

It's kinda useless without it.

 

Kevin 


Post# 699276 , Reply# 8   8/27/2013 at 14:51 (3,865 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Crumbs they are all coming out of the wood work at the moment !!
But as Kevin says the agitator is the most important part, and they are rare machines..I have the Spin Washer delux but the agi doesn't come out.
The machine looks like the pump lever has been changed at some point as well.
Best of luck all
Keith


Post# 699277 , Reply# 9   8/27/2013 at 14:52 (3,865 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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...."Washday in a nutshell"

Post# 699278 , Reply# 10   8/27/2013 at 14:56 (3,865 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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....dont you just luv ebayers !!
Question asked "Do you have a buy-it-now" price..it's an auction site, why cant people just bid !! sorry rant over, just makes it unfair for others..lol
K


Post# 699281 , Reply# 11   8/27/2013 at 15:08 (3,865 days old) by lancethecook (Driffield England)        
Automatics are not my thing

But I will bid if no one else wants to have a go.
But please do say if you want it,I certainly don't want to bid against another member.
Has anyone asked if they have the agitator ?
Shall I send them a message and ask?


Post# 699282 , Reply# 12   8/27/2013 at 15:11 (3,865 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
out of the woodwork

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here is another Parnell Washer

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Post# 699284 , Reply# 13   8/27/2013 at 15:16 (3,865 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hey Lance,
I wont be going for it, but i think others will...
The agi in the EW50 (single tub) wont fit in this machine, they were a different style. The first spin washer i had i tried to get the agi out and broke it.
K


Post# 699291 , Reply# 14   8/27/2013 at 15:33 (3,865 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
OMG

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Thats my Aunts machine from the 60's in birmingham I have never seen one since till now !!!

Austin


Post# 699414 , Reply# 15   8/28/2013 at 03:00 (3,865 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
OMG as well

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Always liked the look of these, and having seen Keith's later version I have been smitten ever since.

And the new BF lives in Nottingham .......

Al


Post# 699417 , Reply# 16   8/28/2013 at 03:04 (3,865 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
So who wants it bad enough to pay a

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fortune and is then willing to share with us all ????

So Al a long distance one is it working and does he share our love of anything washer related?? How are you doing?

Austin


Post# 699428 , Reply# 17   8/28/2013 at 05:19 (3,865 days old) by lancethecook (Driffield England)        
I realise that

An auction is (usually) a fair way to buy an item for what you are prepared to pay but in the spirit of friendship amongst us collectors perhaps we could agree that only one of us , that are known to each other that is, will bid.
Hence hopefully it will come at a sensible price and it will go to a collector who will look after it and hopefully share with the rest of us.
I have asked the seller about the agitator , I am waiting for a reply .


Post# 699431 , Reply# 18   8/28/2013 at 05:49 (3,865 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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....Hi Al, hope you are well :)

They are great machines and in all my years of collecting, i have never seen a MK1 before. I have had 2 MK2's as by the time Parnall launched the MK2 i think the Semi-auto principal had been accepted, so the manufacturing levels were higher.

It will be a bummer, for whoever gets it will not to be able to fully use it with no agi !! I would be warey of the machine as well, if it hasn't been used for a long time, there could be many problems the major one for me is the large internal upside down cone, which connects the lower sudz saving chamber to the drive higher up, this could be perished etc, plus there was a lot hose work in these machines which would quite tricky to re-make if disintergrated.

Cheers K



Post# 699433 , Reply# 19   8/28/2013 at 05:59 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Keith do you have a picture of the MK2 agi or similar, I have a black agi that is most unlike anything else I`ve ever seen or searched for and has about the same number of ridges as the block on this....

Al, seems like it could be a collection item for your car, if its the "one in one out rule" I`ll borrow the A3062 ha ha !!


Post# 699437 , Reply# 20   8/28/2013 at 06:11 (3,864 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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It looks pretty! Too bad if it miss the agitator....  I would go for it immediately   considering I'dhave paying shipping to italy (350£  at max budget for shipping), no matter  also the cost of the  possible long repair labor, but if t miss the agitator, well...you will not find a spare easily though.... it looks well taken though so I don't think it would need any major repair! I'd risk..... Would be very nice to see it in action also.....
Do some of you guys have a video or a pic of how agitators in these looked like???
I think that agitators in these would maybe be similar  in not identical to the wringer Parnall machines....




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Post# 699440 , Reply# 21   8/28/2013 at 06:17 (3,864 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Mike..
I know the MK2 had a totaly different styled agi to the MK1 - on the top of the MK2 agi which i have, it has a light blue retaining disc, quite funky for the time.
The pics that i have and the machine spec indicates the agi is quite shorty & dumpy. Does your agi have a cap/nut to retain it ?
K


Post# 699443 , Reply# 22   8/28/2013 at 06:31 (3,864 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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That drive block looks a bit iffy to me, together with the corrosion. It looks like the original Agi broke to me.

Post# 699451 , Reply# 23   8/28/2013 at 07:48 (3,864 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
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This machine (or one similar) was included in the Which 1960 washing machine report which places it at 50 or so years old so I suspect that the missing agitator would be the least of the problems. But still .....

At the time they commented that under the body it was very similar to the Thor Automagic on which it was, apparently, based. And there are a couple of them still working .........

I also wonder if the agitator from a wringer washer might fit.

I agree 100% with Lance's attitude that co-operation rather than competition is the best way for us all to share our machines and collective knowledge.

Austin - Early days but no, he does not share our interest, not yet anyway. Just give the subliminal messaging time to take effect LOLOLOL

Mike - I am already at the "one in/one out" stage, especially while I am "fostering" a HP 9605. So the EE Dryer is being given much thought at the moment and a certain Colston dishwasher will be making its way to the Derby Home for Old and Bewildered (and incontinent - like as not) Household Appliances soon. And the A3062 is certainly under consideration too - used it on Monday, worked like a charm

Al


Post# 699464 , Reply# 24   8/28/2013 at 08:50 (3,864 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Al, from what I can gather Parnall-Radiation Ltd launched this machine in 1960, and was very revolutionary for the time, but saying that it renders it useless if you haven't got the agitator ?
The principal was the same as the Thor, but the workings were somewhat different. From looking at my Spin Washer I somehow dont think the agi would fit from a wringer washer. The spline/drive cone was totally different.
Whilst I do agree with you & Lance about the attitude on bidding, this invariably goes out the window.
I think this is going to be an interesting one to watch !!
Keith


Post# 699511 , Reply# 25   8/28/2013 at 13:51 (3,864 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        

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My Nan had a Parnall spin washer too, her's was a Mk2 I think as it had a rear control panel.

I do hope someone manages to save this machine.


Post# 699558 , Reply# 26   8/28/2013 at 17:07 (3,864 days old) by Kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)        

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So Al a long distance one is it working and does he share our love of anything washer related?? How are you doing?

Austin
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Austin - Early days but no, he does not share our interest, not yet anyway. Just give the subliminal messaging time to take effect LOLOLOL


Post# 699645 , Reply# 27   8/29/2013 at 01:20 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Hi Keith, I see it has a perforated tub - How does that work with the heater and Sudz Save? Does your MK2 have a solid tub?

yes the agi is short and dumpy with a screw top, heres a pic


Post# 699717 , Reply# 28   8/29/2013 at 07:49 (3,863 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Mike,
The perforated tub was linned behind and the open holes were at the top, (if that makes and sense) lol - hence you had to "Spin to save" to get the water down the to the lower chamber to heat it up..
That agi doesn't look like a Parnall one, more like Burco, Goblin or Ada or maybe Easiclene..all these machines had dumpy agitators.
Cheers K


Post# 699791 , Reply# 29   8/29/2013 at 15:01 (3,863 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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That is a small agitator, looks like a toy! Super cute machine though, hope someone gets it.

Post# 699802 , Reply# 30   8/29/2013 at 15:17 (3,863 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Wowzer!
There are certainly some classics coming out of the woodwork at the moment.

With other people offering to take on the challenge, I will gladly stand aside and let others attempt to preserve it.
Even without an agitator it certainly deserves a secure future and I really hope that it finds one.

Would be really good to see it all cleaned up and sat alongside a Parnall TD59 Autodry.

Have everything crossed for someone to have success!
Paul
p.s With the Parnall automatics and dryer being the basis of the Creda Laundrair toploader, yet again it seems that the preserved history of early Creda automatics is to be via another an alternative brand. Where are all the Creda's? :-)


Post# 699803 , Reply# 31   8/29/2013 at 15:18 (3,863 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the Parnall TD59...

Post# 699804 , Reply# 32   8/29/2013 at 15:20 (3,863 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the development of the ebay machine - the EW60 Spinwasher De Luxe...

Post# 699915 , Reply# 33   8/30/2013 at 06:55 (3,862 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Keith, that makes sense now, just couldnt figure out how you could heat the water and pump it back up or Sudz Drain etc....
actually when I first saw the EW60 when I was 8 I had always imagined it to have a little square tank under the washtub to which the Sudz Save water was pumped to and from...

Paul, had forgotten about the Creda twins, yes where are those?

Hey Greg - Toy !! well really...ha ha, thats about the size in most small wringer washers and our compact bijou ranges!!


Post# 699921 , Reply# 34   8/30/2013 at 07:53 (3,862 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Mike,
When I first heard and saw pictures of the machine in the late 80's I also wondered if there was a seperate tank to where the re-using water was pumped too..but later discovered there is just one big outer cyclinder/tank just like the Thor principle.
I think some of the smallest agi's are the Easiclene & Ada machines, but they only held 3/4 lbs of washing lol


Post# 700458 , Reply# 35   9/1/2013 at 15:46 (3,860 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Well you get dragged away on holiday

and look what turns up.

Just to say I won't be going for at, as I can neither collect it or find anywhere to put it.

But despite knowing its not a plug and play machine, some one in the group should get it. I like lance would love to see the machine and it's internal workings one day, it may need a bit of restoration, but without any others in existance I know of, it's surely worth the effort.

The other thing i've been thinking about is the advertising of both the parnall and the creda versions, is how carefull they are with the words used, they make it seem automatic, but actually without claiming it is. And saying things like `it rinses as long as you wish' means that your standing by the sink turning the tap on and watching the drain hose for suds.
Yes your hands don't get wet, but you can see how a decent twin tub would have been a better option for families, with more washing done in the same time with not much extra effort.

All the best to whoever bids, and to whoever wins, get the truss ready for collection day, if the dryers are anything to go by.

Mathew


Post# 700644 , Reply# 36   9/2/2013 at 14:37 (3,859 days old) by lancethecook (Driffield England)        
So

Was it one of us who won it for twenty quid?
I did ask the vendor about the agitator and he wasn't sure what an agitator was so I sent him a photo of one but never got a reply.
Whoever won it , we'll done.
Hope you have lots of fun with it.


Post# 701922 , Reply# 37   9/8/2013 at 06:36 (3,853 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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.....So guyz who got the Hotpoint Twin Six & Parnall mk1 ?

Be good to see some pics :)
Keith


Post# 701923 , Reply# 38   9/8/2013 at 06:38 (3,853 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Its...

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Gonna cost ya..!!

Video of your Parnall MK2 and we`re done....


Post# 701951 , Reply# 39   9/8/2013 at 09:30 (3,853 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
parnall spin washer MK1

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Well can you believe it ! The washer of your dreams and only £20. Not sure why it was so cheap and little to know interest. Collected the washer on friday last week and had a little mess about with it that day. Did a water test on saturday and all ok and fully functioning . There is a tiny water leak on the water valve which operates the suds return but got the valve in bits today and needs 2 new O rings . It was not too bad but left a puddle on the floor during the wash. It looks as if the washer had been really well maintained , well lubricated and really easy to dismantle. It will need new hoses as most are dry and don't think they will last too long. When we moved the washer and put it on it's side there was still water in the sump of the machine which as you can imagine was not too pleasant !! Last used in 2006 .Not too sure if a visit to the paint shop is needed . The man who i bought it off thought i was a total loon when i started to explain the functions this unique machine performed !!!! Really love the machine and will post a few pictures. This is machine filling


Post# 701953 , Reply# 40   9/8/2013 at 09:33 (3,853 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
parnall

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spin to save

Post# 701954 , Reply# 41   9/8/2013 at 09:36 (3,853 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
parnall

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suds return

Post# 701955 , Reply# 42   9/8/2013 at 09:38 (3,853 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
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spin to empty

Post# 701957 , Reply# 43   9/8/2013 at 09:40 (3,853 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
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Spin to empty

Post# 701963 , Reply# 44   9/8/2013 at 10:25 (3,853 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
What A Result!

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Absolutely brilliant, not only for the price but it works and you have an agitator, Top Marks all the way for you, and of course being an experienced restorer it couldn't have gone to a better type of person *hands you bouquet and places the crown on your head* :-)

Thanks for the shots of this lovely machine, oh and the Hoover shake out bag ;-)

Gary


Post# 701993 , Reply# 45   9/8/2013 at 12:02 (3,853 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Was the agi included in the sale?

Absolutely brilliant , glad it went to a great home!!!



Post# 701994 , Reply# 46   9/8/2013 at 12:05 (3,853 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
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AMAZING pictures!!!! As I've said before my Nan had the mkII version but I remember very little about it. I never saw it in operation and unfortunately she did not take it with her when she moved to a smaller property. Well done on saving this amazing washer.

Post# 701996 , Reply# 47   9/8/2013 at 12:06 (3,853 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Well done indeed

Fantastic you were able to locate an adjitator and wonderfull you found it in working order, though it wouldn't be right not to have a few dribbles and perished hoses. Thanks for sharing the photos so soon and so glad it went to someone so able to restore it to perfection, as I know you will.

All the best

Mathew


Post# 702019 , Reply# 48   9/8/2013 at 13:30 (3,853 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hey Mike...I must try to get my video uploaded, but it was flimed on an old style camcorder, and not sure how to get it converted to dvd or pc file..I flimed it in 2007, so its well overdue for a showing..lol

Hi Darren, congrats on getting the machine !! it looks fab...the small leak from the diverter valve is common i think, it is a small 3 way valve and handling vast amount of water something it bound to wear over time. If the "spin to save" is holding without any leaks you are home n dry.

Happy Parnall-ing !!
Keith



Post# 702030 , Reply# 49   9/8/2013 at 14:30 (3,853 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
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The agitator was a very fortunate find. Spin to save seems to be holding water at the moment. I will give the heater a go when i get the valve repaired. Will try and get a little film made when i get time.
Darren


Post# 702229 , Reply# 50   9/9/2013 at 07:38 (3,852 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
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I am absolutely delighted to see that the machine has gone to a good home where it will be appreciated. And it make complete sense to go to you if you had a suitable agitator for it.

I don't think there was any lack of interest in the machine, it was just that most of us are up to the limit in space and projects in hand. I was going to bid myself but heavy traffic kept me just too late. Anyway, better that you got it for the starting price. I look forward to seeing a video :)

Keith
You know where I live so come on over, I have the technology :) be good to see you again

Al


Post# 702244 , Reply# 51   9/9/2013 at 08:47 (3,852 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Congratulations Darren on getting your dream washer, and the chances of anyone having the agi must mean it was meant to be...looking forward to seeing it in action.

Didnt expect to see the Sudz Return Valve pumping back at the front, so is the left hand pipe the empty pipe which you stick in for sudz return?

And is the rhs fill just for cold water?,

Keith does that go for the MK2 model? funny I always thought they where for hot and cold water intake and that the sudz return operated with a diverter valve arrangement inside.



Post# 702282 , Reply# 52   9/9/2013 at 14:02 (3,852 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
let the restoration begin

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I noticed that there was a small water leak on the water valve. I have stripped some of the machine down and the water was coming out of the spindle on the valve. Once stripped down it appears that the O rings have dried out and slack. The hoses have been removed and will try and match replacements. The old ones were ok but not totally reliable. I have done a few more photos to show folks what the machine looks like with it's clothes off !. Thanks for everyones enthusiasm towards the machine . Darren

Post# 702284 , Reply# 53   9/9/2013 at 14:04 (3,852 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
restoration

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suds return spout

Post# 702285 , Reply# 54   9/9/2013 at 14:07 (3,852 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
restoration

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Rear view motor and condenser.

Post# 702286 , Reply# 55   9/9/2013 at 14:11 (3,852 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
restoration

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THE BIBLE !!!

Post# 702292 , Reply# 56   9/9/2013 at 14:40 (3,852 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Al,

Thank for the conversion offer, i will drop you a line and pop round and see you sometime :) Thanks

Hi Mike, The way the MK2 works is the left hand hose socket (red) at the back of the machine is for emptying the machine only and the right hand socket is for filing, either hot or cold. There is a diverter inside, which when "Spin to save" is selected and the water is being returned to the tub the diverter blocks off the Spin to empty port and opens the port to the hose which directs suds back to the tub (the below brochure shows the reverse to what iam saying..weird)

I have to say that on my machine the water entry is at the back of the top of the tub along with the suds return entry.

Darren, its great to see the machine in the naked state, i never had the balls to take mine apart that much, but the mk2 is a bit more complex with the Selctromat controls etc..

Cheers
Keith


Post# 702413 , Reply# 57   9/10/2013 at 05:48 (3,852 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Restoration..

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Well that didnt take you long..ha ha, it looks quite solid and substantial without its cover, looks almost like a simplex spin dryer...looks difficult to get to the gearbox etc from the motor area or do you have to take the tub and everything out to get to it?

Keith, now got it, the lhs empty port is rather like the Hoovermatic 3301 twinny with the snap in hose? lets hope no one forgets to put it in!!

Darren, whats the purpose of the chrome tube on the lhs if the "Sudz Return" comes from the diverter pump and entry pipe at 7 o`clock showing at the front?

And does the diverter pipe run up the inside of the tub to the tub entry port?


Post# 702468 , Reply# 58   9/10/2013 at 12:22 (3,851 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
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Hi Mike there are two water flumes directing to the tub.The one at 1 o'clock fills the tub via the grey port at the back of the machine. The suds return at 7 o'clock is linked to the water valve . The chrome arm at 11 0'clock forms the lid switch link which i have bypassed so we can get the photos. !!!
When i get the new hoses i will take more photos to explain the process. It's all to exciting for me . I think the cabinet is going to the spray shop ...........It deserves the best treatment ......... Not thats it's my favourite machine or anything !!!. Darren


Post# 703339 , Reply# 59   9/15/2013 at 05:10 (3,847 days old) by parnall_doug ()        

Wow! Lovely to see that spin washer!
That's the first time I've seen close-up pics of one.
It's the matching machine to my Parnall Auto Dry TD59 dryer, which dates from 1960.
I'm glad that machine has been saved. Good job I hadn't seen it listed, or I'm sure I'd have been bidding on it!

Doug


Post# 703362 , Reply# 60   9/15/2013 at 09:08 (3,846 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Phew!

Thank goodness this machine has found a good home! Congratulations Darren on the new old acquisition.

Definitely deserving of preservation and, with you having the servicing and spare parts bumpfff, assured a great future. Excellent too that you have an agitator for it as well.

Keep us updated with its repair/servicing/rebuild.
Regards
Paul


Post# 703364 , Reply# 61   9/15/2013 at 09:19 (3,846 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Its 1963...

and Mrs Jeanes likes her Parnall spinwasher....

Post# 703512 , Reply# 62   9/16/2013 at 05:12 (3,846 days old) by parnall_doug ()        

This 1962 magazine advert is on currently on Ebay.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO parnall_doug's LINK on eBay


Post# 707263 , Reply# 63   10/4/2013 at 18:57 (3,827 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
Paint job advise

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I'm having a holiday at the moment and spoke to the paint sprayer about the casement on the spin washer. The top of the machine is stove enamelled and not really in the best of condition. It's not chipped but I think when the case is re painted the top will stand out like a sore thumb. The sprayer said he would give it a go but was not sure how the finish would appear. Not sure if I should just leave it or give it a go. What are folks experiences of spraying stove enamel ??? I don't want to mess it up in anyway. Also struggling to get some grey ribbed rubber hoses for the fill and drain. They need to be longer that the standard type of Hoover twin tub filler hose. I wanted to get the machine back to as original as possible with it being a bit of a rarity . Would really appreciate some advise. Thanks Darren

Post# 707392 , Reply# 64   10/5/2013 at 14:51 (3,826 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Nice machine Darren

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Looks very solid construction too. I think the restoration is half the fun. Love the name Parnall !!


Post# 708421 , Reply# 65   10/10/2013 at 15:45 (3,821 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
Clutch problems

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Before i went on holiday i did a test overflow rinse even though the cabinet had been removed. With the tub full of water the machine the wash function would not work the motor was trying to start but there was lots of clicking and humming from the motor. When the machine was put on spin there was no problem and the water drained away. After a while i realised that the brake drum rotates on a clutch helix and clears the brake cone and allows the machine to spin.
When it stops the brake drum drops to come in contact with the brake shoes. If i wedged the brake drum off the cone the washer would work fine.
So managed to work out there was a problem with the brake and shoes so OFF WITH CLUTCH !!!

Two of the four brake shoes were missing and the two remaining came off with the clutch. Managed to make 4 new brake shoe from a twin tub brake and bonded them into the housing.

This has cured the problem as there is sufficient clearance to enable the machine to wash and spin normally

What a relief as I've been told that the clutch is always a weakness of these machines

I have now sent off cabinet to be sprayed so hopefully get the washer back together.

Hopefully i can see an end in sight. Darren



Post# 708423 , Reply# 66   10/10/2013 at 15:49 (3,821 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
clutch and drive shaft

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From the underside.

Post# 708426 , Reply# 67   10/10/2013 at 15:53 (3,821 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
Control panel

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New parts and old ready for the resprayed cabinet (sorry about the saw !!)

Post# 708427 , Reply# 68   10/10/2013 at 15:58 (3,821 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
Spin to save

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Nearly washed the conservatory !!! But it works .

Post# 708429 , Reply# 69   10/10/2013 at 16:02 (3,821 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
Suds return

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Filled the wash tub up from the saver tank under the wash tub

Post# 708430 , Reply# 70   10/10/2013 at 16:05 (3,821 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
off to the spray shop

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Hopefully won't be too long before the machine is back together.

Post# 708432 , Reply# 71   10/10/2013 at 16:09 (3,821 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
New hoses

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Forgot this one ....... new hoses to the diverter valve

Post# 708438 , Reply# 72   10/10/2013 at 16:57 (3,821 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
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Enjoying this Darren.

This is a truly fascinating Machine. Lovin all the step by step pics & work info, it really is taking shape.


Post# 728722 , Reply# 73   1/19/2014 at 10:06 (3,720 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
back to Life

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Well after months in the spray shop i finally got the call to collect the cabinet.
Took a bit of time to get it all back together …….. when a restoration goes over so many months it's hard to remember how it all went back together. Anyway got the machine in the laundry room and gave it a go .




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Post# 728723 , Reply# 74   1/19/2014 at 10:08 (3,720 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
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Filling up with hot water

Post# 728724 , Reply# 75   1/19/2014 at 10:09 (3,720 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
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washing in the tub

Post# 728725 , Reply# 76   1/19/2014 at 10:10 (3,720 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
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set the dials

Post# 728727 , Reply# 77   1/19/2014 at 10:11 (3,720 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
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spin to save

Post# 728728 , Reply# 78   1/19/2014 at 10:14 (3,720 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
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suds return …….. in with the next load

Post# 728731 , Reply# 79   1/19/2014 at 10:15 (3,720 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
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rinsing …… how many gallons of water do we use !!!!!

Post# 728732 , Reply# 80   1/19/2014 at 10:23 (3,720 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
back to life

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spinning to empty after the over flow rinse. All the processes are manual on this machine filling ….. washing… spinning etc. If you want to heat the water up you have to fill the wash basket first and then spin to save the water into the tub below where the heater is located…… when the water reaches the set temperature you have to set the machine to wash and turn the lever to let the suds return and hey presto the hot water returns to the basket for you to add the washing to . Fantastic little machine very simple to use and once have sorted out the camera will do a movie to demonstrate properly. The only thing i don't like are the black hoses which i have had to use as the grey ribbed hoses were almost impossible to find.

Post# 728861 , Reply# 81   1/19/2014 at 18:40 (3,720 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Wonderful

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Completely wonderful!

Post# 728986 , Reply# 82   1/20/2014 at 06:20 (3,719 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Parnall SpinWasher

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Congrats Darren on the complete restoration, your washer looks just FAB, you make it look so easy but knowing how you systematically tackled it gives us all hope for future renovations!!

I can see now how the clutch and helix work given the bedtime doctrine reading you sent as well, come the spring will bring over my newly found model and start the task as well with your help!!

Dont give up on finding grey hoses, havnt visited that pneumatic hose factory yet, as an aside I do like the black hoses...

Now for the videos...


Post# 729006 , Reply# 83   1/20/2014 at 07:34 (3,719 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Afternoon Darren,

I have to say it is looking fantastic !! A credit to you, you have done a grand job!!

I need to get the cabinet sprayed on mine at some time. Grey hoses would finish it off nicely.

Mike, have you found a Spinwasher ?? I collected the two Thor Automagic's last weekend and are currently sitting in mum's shed, one sounds like the clutch has gone but the other sounds ok, a good clean and they will be perfect, they are really mint condition body wise.

I will probably break one down so quite a few spares will be available if anyone is interested.

Cheers guys
Keith


Post# 729034 , Reply# 84   1/20/2014 at 10:27 (3,719 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        

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What an amazing job you have done Darren, well done!!! Wonderful machine, looking forward to the videos.

Post# 729065 , Reply# 85   1/20/2014 at 14:02 (3,719 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Fantastic transformation Darren - bet you are really pleased. Look forward to seeing this in action in your videos.

The black hoses don't look bad and I quite like the red one you used on your test run - makes it unique to you. What is the spin speed of this machine? Is it quite stable as I can't see any suspension unless I'm missing something?


Post# 729100 , Reply# 86   1/20/2014 at 15:43 (3,719 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
SpinWasher

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Hi Keith, I think it was more that the spin washer found me!!, yes have a cream version but needs the clutch sorting and a re-spray so its heading up to Lincoln with me soon for a Parnall workshop....Congrats on getting the two Thors, I have a request please, dont break one up for spares, Darren in Lincoln needs one and then he can break his up for spares for us when / if required as its in a worse state than the 2nd one of yours!!

Paul, will do a second thread about the Spinwasher so as not to hog this one, and thanks for being patient, had seen your request on FB...


Post# 729180 , Reply# 87   1/20/2014 at 20:52 (3,719 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
Thanks Mike

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Looking forward to the restoration pics :-). Apologies for being impatient.

Post# 729344 , Reply# 88   1/21/2014 at 12:13 (3,718 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Darren.
The machine looks superb! Congratulations on a grand restoration.

Are you pleased with the quality of the respray and what shade of white did you ask for? Looks a good shade and useful to know, just in case I decide to go down the respray road with any of our machines.

As with everyone else - looking forward to the tutorial videos, in how to operate your new Parnall spinwasher :-)

Paul


Post# 733068 , Reply# 89   2/5/2014 at 13:44 (3,703 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Parnall Spinwasher EW60H.......

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Here`s the video of Darrens Parnall Spinwasher, he sent me a disc of clips and asked could I put up a vid, was eager to oblige and see it in action....
just listen to those gurgles clunks and whirrs!!






CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK


Post# 733074 , Reply# 90   2/5/2014 at 14:00 (3,703 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        
Brilliant

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Great to see this machine up and running and in action. Imagine the suds mountain on the suds return if you'd used the traditional non automatic washing powder!!

Seems really stable and that spin seems to be around the hotpoint top loader speed. How water tight are the spigot connections? I can imagine the mess you'd get if that drain hose popped out lol

A fab restoration - well done


Post# 733094 , Reply# 91   2/5/2014 at 14:56 (3,703 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
During the filming

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When i was filming the washer we had a little trouble with the agitator drive block . In the centre of the the block there should be a bolt to hold the block onto the drive shaft. This became loose and eventually lifted off. A few days later it was re-taped with a new bolt and washer.
I will put a picture on of what the finished job looks like but this it what happened !!!!


Post# 733095 , Reply# 92   2/5/2014 at 14:59 (3,703 days old) by slowspin66 (lincoln uk)        
Drive shaft

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The drive shaft looks a little narrow !

Post# 891396 , Reply# 93   7/28/2016 at 11:34 (2,799 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        
Parnall Design review

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I came across this interesting article on Darren's Machine in a design magazine so thought I'd add them on here rather than a new thread. Hope its interesting. I've uploaded the scans the old way to make sure they can be read

S


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There were also 3 pages relating to other machines

Post# 891408 , Reply# 104   7/28/2016 at 11:43 (2,799 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Post# 891414 , Reply# 106   7/28/2016 at 12:17 (2,799 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
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Steve

What a cracking article, thank you for loading it - I will enjoy have a close read of it later. Just a couple of points from a quick scan:

1. Reference is made to the Thor Automagic - from the Which 1960 report this machine is a successor to the later versions of the Thor and, apparently, shared a lot of the design characteristics although it looks completely different.

2. Some of the issues raised are covered in the somewhat more complex and later Spinwasher Deluxe with the raised panel on the back.

Note however that this machine is marginally cheaper than the Hoovermatic although it is very much more sophisticated and actually more labour saving - its a great shame they were not more popular

What this article cannot tell you is what beautiful machines these are - Darren's spinwasher is nothing short of stunning and the Deluxe he got a few weeks ago will be the same once he has completed the restoration.

Al


Post# 891422 , Reply# 107   7/28/2016 at 13:38 (2,799 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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That is great reading material! Thank you very much for sharing this.

Post# 891426 , Reply# 108   7/28/2016 at 14:09 (2,799 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Parnall Spinwwasher De-Luxe EWH601H

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Great documentation on the Parnall Spinwasher, many thanks for publishing Steve, what design mag was it because the pics look similar to an Ideal Home report from the 60`s....

They are great machines and as Al says you need to see them in person to appreciate Darrens restorations and great washers, any housewife with one of these after a wringer washer would have thought she had won the lottery !!..

Cheers, Mike


Post# 891518 , Reply# 109   7/29/2016 at 09:50 (2,798 days old) by Sesteve (London, UK)        

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Glad it's of interest. I got it from a magazine called Design from July 1961 - it's the journal of the Design Council. The major kitchen appliances section has fridges and cookers in it too - I'll scan those on Monday too and add if anyone is interested.

Seems brave for the manufacturer to allow such scrutiny although I guess it helps with the evolution process. Funnily enough, the Nothampton College of Technology is now City University London where I used to work. I don't recall seeing any washing machines in bits in the engineering department so perhaps this exercise was a one off.

S


Post# 891519 , Reply# 110   7/29/2016 at 10:01 (2,798 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Oh yes please. More interesting stuff!

Post# 891577 , Reply# 111   7/29/2016 at 17:40 (2,798 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)        

Me too, more stuff! Fun reading. It reminds me of how Consumer Rpts. used to be.

Post# 891969 , Reply# 112   8/1/2016 at 11:07 (2,795 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        
Major kitchen appliances

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As requested here are the other bits of that article

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That previous post must be before the advice to put raw meat at the bottom!

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Post# 892004 , Reply# 122   8/1/2016 at 12:08 (2,795 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
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Steve

THANK YOU so much for scanning and posting these pages - so much useful information and lots of good reading here.

Al


Post# 892008 , Reply# 123   8/1/2016 at 12:23 (2,795 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Thank you Steve! Much appreciated, that is interesting stuff!

Post# 892175 , Reply# 124   8/2/2016 at 08:01 (2,794 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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.....Fantastic artical, great information very though and informative, whilst reference is given to the predecessor "Thor Automagic" the styling of the Spinwasher is so different and very modern for 1960. The machine went through 2 further refinements in 1963 & 1967.

The styling of the Thor Automagic's remained virtually the same for over 24 years, (1946 - 1960)well apart from the controls.

Cheers
Keith


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Post# 892177 , Reply# 125   8/2/2016 at 08:42 (2,794 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Some great reading there Steve, great to see the classics and how they came to be, you can see a direct link between the first written instructions and how the colour picture guides of the later spinwashers fell out of reports and design tests like the above..

Thanks for scanning !!



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