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Post# 699524   8/28/2013 at 15:10 (3,865 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Well not content with clocking up loads of miles between London, Cambridge and Wiltshire over the weekend, I managed to pick up this Spinarinse from Northampton on Monday. I've been after one of these for a while after our next door neighbour used to use one - she had to wrap a cloth round the outlet spout as it used to leak. Unfortunately it's not working although I've not done the basic check of making sure the fuse is ok!




Post# 699527 , Reply# 1   8/28/2013 at 15:12 (3,865 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Her one had a blue lid so I think was older than this

Post# 699530 , Reply# 2   8/28/2013 at 15:15 (3,865 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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The outlet spout

Post# 699533 , Reply# 3   8/28/2013 at 15:20 (3,865 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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The workings. You will see that the rubber outlet pipe is totally perished so will need replacing. Also there is a tell tale ring marking the interior of the casing which probably indicates a leak on the pump. There is a lot of old mouse poo inside the casing so I think it's been a home to a couple at some point!

Has anyone got any service information for this that they would be willing to share? I think I know what to do but it makes all the difference having a guide to go by

Steve :)


Post# 699553 , Reply# 4   8/28/2013 at 16:49 (3,865 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
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I would welcome service information too as I have one identical to this which works but does not pump out. These are built like TANKS!

Al


Post# 699684 , Reply# 5   8/29/2013 at 05:15 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Well done Steve on saving another classic, as Al says built like a tank, a little restricted to get to as the base has a very good chassis, but once released and swung to the side its easy to work on!! The grey model was the one my nan had, it was called the "Hoover 55" as it was on special offer from "Critchleys Hoover Centre" at the price of - you guessed it £55 guineas...


Post# 699685 , Reply# 6   8/29/2013 at 05:18 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Post# 699686 , Reply# 7   8/29/2013 at 05:19 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Post# 699687 , Reply# 8   8/29/2013 at 05:20 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover Spin a Rinse Servicing

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Post# 699688 , Reply# 9   8/29/2013 at 05:21 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Post# 699689 , Reply# 10   8/29/2013 at 05:22 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Post# 699690 , Reply# 11   8/29/2013 at 05:24 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover Spin a Rinse Servicing

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Post# 699691 , Reply# 12   8/29/2013 at 05:24 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Post# 699692 , Reply# 13   8/29/2013 at 05:25 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Post# 699693 , Reply# 14   8/29/2013 at 05:26 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover Spin a Rinse Servicing

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Post# 699694 , Reply# 15   8/29/2013 at 05:26 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Post# 699695 , Reply# 16   8/29/2013 at 05:27 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Post# 699696 , Reply# 17   8/29/2013 at 05:28 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Post# 699697 , Reply# 18   8/29/2013 at 05:30 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Post# 699698 , Reply# 19   8/29/2013 at 05:33 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Post# 699699 , Reply# 20   8/29/2013 at 05:35 (3,864 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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There you go, that should get you started!!


Post# 699749 , Reply# 21   8/29/2013 at 11:41 (3,864 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Reply 19

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Thanks for posting this Mike, someday I might get around to having a look at mine, that big chassis is very intimidating though.

I wonder what that curious hose arrangement in reply 19 is for? I have never seen one of those before.

The other thing is that the bridge shown for model 0319 is common enough (this is a piece of plastic which clips on to the RH side of the spinner and LH side of wash tub which, in theory, allows you to transfer wet washing from tub to spinner without all the water running down in between. In theory .......

However, unless I am getting my numbers wrong, surely the 307 is the original single tub with wringer. I did not even think it was the same height as the spinarinse never mind being bridged to it

Al


Post# 699752 , Reply# 22   8/29/2013 at 11:50 (3,864 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Bridge in place

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This is how it looks with the two units linked.

I might add that although the spinner does not pump out it does actually run, but the single tub goes like a champ and does get used reasonably often


Al


Post# 699764 , Reply# 23   8/29/2013 at 14:07 (3,864 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Wow thanks Mike. Will help loads so might have a go at it this weekend.

I have to say I haven't seen that hose arrangement either and can only assume it was to allow you to mix the temperature when you were filling the tub but that's just my guess. I've got a length of rubber outlet hose which I think was for the hotpoint top loaders where you used plastic elbows to make the hose suit your plumbing so I'm hoping that will work. Will keep you posted

Cheers Steve :)


Post# 699788 , Reply# 24   8/29/2013 at 14:59 (3,864 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Steve.

Congratulations on your newly acquired 3004A. Looks in great external fettle too and, with the pages supplied by Mike, will be in fine internal fettle as well!

I haven't the brochure for the 3004A, but do have ones containing the earlier 3004 with the earlier blue enamel lid and dating from 1963.

Enjoy!
Paul


Post# 699789 , Reply# 25   8/29/2013 at 15:00 (3,864 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

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A lovely brochure.
Paul


Post# 699837 , Reply# 32   8/29/2013 at 16:54 (3,864 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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A lovely brochure indeed. Thanks for posting Paul.

Interesting that the badge on the 3004 is on what would be the side of mine and I did love the blue lids. Not sure if you can pin a date on this via the serial number below


Post# 699839 , Reply# 33   8/29/2013 at 16:56 (3,864 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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I think from a peek in the brochure that the can rim should be white but this one is far from it at the moment!!

S


Post# 699841 , Reply# 34   8/29/2013 at 17:24 (3,864 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
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Christ do i love my Spinarinse. Not as old as the one in question but it sure comes in handy in the winter time when i do a lot more tumble drying.

Post# 700908 , Reply# 35   9/3/2013 at 15:46 (3,859 days old) by slimstar ()        
SpinaRinse no more

Reading through this thread, i could kick myself. Last summer my other half was putting the pressure on to clear a bit of space in the kitchen, so i gave in and sold mine. I think it found its way to another members collection, so at least i know its gone to a good home.
I have a question which kind of ties in with this thread, here goes.....

Having sold the spinarinse we soon after moved from our flat to a house with a garden, and i cheekily pestered my fella into us getting a twin tub for me to work on as a little project. I managed to get hold of a Hoovermatic 3334, which is just lovely. However the pump valve on the washdeck is not doing its thing so whichever position it is in it fills the spinner!
Ive seen an earlier thread related to this, but my problem is the screws that fix it have all corroded and lost their heads. Is there any advice as to how to remove it and does anyone know where to obtain the relevant spare part. If i cant clean it up?
Apologies for this long winded question and thanks in advance for any help.
Alex


Post# 701010 , Reply# 36   9/4/2013 at 01:14 (3,858 days old) by lancethecook (Driffield England)        
When screws loose their heads

Is there no head at all on the screws?
Everyone knows that if there is a bit left then tap the screwdriver with a hammer to give the screwdriver a better grip on the screw but what I didn't know until recently when I was shown , was that it works much better if someone else is tapping the screwdriver with a hammer constantly while the other person removes the screw.
As Austin (Ozzie) and I both found out , it really does work.
That might help to get it off , I'm afraid I can't help with the repair.


Post# 701174 , Reply# 37   9/4/2013 at 15:16 (3,858 days old) by slimstar ()        
Hey Lance

Hi lance,
Thanks for the reply. I'll certainly give that a try. But they seem completely gone. Do you think i could drill them out?
Just out of interest, ive found a company in south africa that stock replacement OCV's. i wondered if you or anyone else has had dealings with them?

Ps lance,
Did you buy a spinarinse from an ebayer in south london?
If so i hope she's holding up well?


Post# 701381 , Reply# 38   9/5/2013 at 13:54 (3,857 days old) by lancethecook (Driffield England)        
My spinarinse

I got about two years ago but I can't remember where it came from as I didn't collect it , it was sent to me.
I do however remember that the guy who sold it to me was called Nick Taylor .
Why?
As for drilling the screws out , I have never tried to do such a thing but I'm sure some other member can help you better than me on that point.


Post# 701401 , Reply# 39   9/5/2013 at 15:57 (3,857 days old) by slimstar ()        
Ebayer

Yep, nick's my other half
Thanks for getting back to me.
Im not sure what else to do. Ill wait and see if any suggestions materialise.
Thanks again mr.


Post# 701413 , Reply# 40   9/5/2013 at 17:30 (3,857 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
drilling out screws

hi Slimstar

I have had some experience of drilling out screws in conjuction with using a screw extractor, though this was on some much larger screws.

I got the screw extractors from screwfix, they are basically an opposite thread screw, you drill a hole in the centre of the screw to be removed, screw in the extractor which screws in anticlockwise and when its tight you start unscrewing the screw your trying to remove. Sounds simple in theory, this method may be worth trying if you can get a small enough screw extractor, and are confident to drill a very small diameter hole in the screw.

Another suggestion if the above is a bit delicate, would be to carfully drill the heads off the screws, but the risks are the drill slipping off centre and damaging the surrounding casting or leaving you with nothing to grip the screws and being unable to get the remaining screws out of the valve body.

One other thought if you have any screwhead left would be to hold a soldering iron in the screwhead, to warm the screw and surrounding aluminium, you may find the different metal expand at different rate and may help.

Well these are only suggestions and I certainly can't promise them to work, but I hope they do. I don't have any complete ocv valves, but have a few of the internal parts and some of the gaskets that seal the valve body and the chrome top part to the tub. i've also got a few pump components if your stuck there.

By the way Steve, nice spinarinse there, if it's not been said earlier the white top surround to the spin can didn't come in until the later model, the one witht the black plastic lid, the one before Craigs above, prior to that they were the same aluminium as the main part of the spin can.

All the best both with these restorations

Mathew


Post# 701482 , Reply# 41   9/5/2013 at 22:49 (3,857 days old) by lancethecook (Driffield England)        
Just to let you know

The spinarinse is doing just fine thanks although I don't use it as often as I should .
Tell Nick it went to a good home and I did buy and read his book.
Cheers
Lance


Post# 723885 , Reply# 42   12/30/2013 at 13:03 (3,741 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        
Was it really that long ago?

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Crikes how time flies. Well seeing as I'd managed to get the Colston fixed I took the Spinarinse out of the shed and got that back on its feet too. It had been home to mice before I'd picked it up and it turned out that there was a nibbled wire that I'd missed last time. All working fantastic and despite being cracked, the rubber hose is holding up well. It's a bit stiff to swivel the outlet but other than that it works great with a very quick stop on the brake.

I've also taken a video of this getting the extra water out of the clothes that were washed in the Colston. Will upload soon too. That's two working Spinarinses and the Colston. Just a shed full of other stuff to go lol :)

Heres a few pics of the repair 1st one is chassis out


Post# 723887 , Reply# 43   12/30/2013 at 13:05 (3,741 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Mouse damage

Post# 723889 , Reply# 44   12/30/2013 at 13:07 (3,741 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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And more

Post# 723893 , Reply# 45   12/30/2013 at 13:10 (3,741 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Insulating tape and connector block repair. I'll make it more permanent one day......

Post# 723895 , Reply# 46   12/30/2013 at 13:16 (3,741 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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ANC here it is next to its younger cousin which needed a new hose and some lubrication. See how the motor is now the same as the Hoovermatic spin motor. Managed to get an original rubber hose for it - in fact they sent me 2!

Special Thanks to Chestermike for the service info. Would have struggled without this.
S :)


Post# 723911 , Reply# 47   12/30/2013 at 14:50 (3,741 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK))        
Hoover single tub emptying

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Hi guys, this is a really interesting thread. I have memories of neighbours having the single tub and spinner side by side. My mum had a hot point twin tub with the same solid arm that pumped from the spinner in to the sink.

How does the single tub empty? I know older models had a gravity drain pipe. In the later models there is that rubber hose along the back of the tub connected at both ends. I assume that is for emptying but how does it work? Is there a continuous water pump running whilst the wash plate in the side of the tub spins?
Cheers
Simon


Post# 723941 , Reply# 48   12/30/2013 at 18:34 (3,741 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Spinarinse & single tub

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Great job there Steve, you can pop round and do mine now LOLOLOL

@ Spinspeed
You got it right, the pump runs constantly while the motor is running, and you just "un-clip" one end to release the water - the hill hose was tapered so it could be inserted in the tube

Al


Post# 723942 , Reply# 49   12/30/2013 at 18:35 (3,741 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Like so

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Post# 723944 , Reply# 50   12/30/2013 at 18:37 (3,741 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Spinarinse Instructions 1

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While i am at it

Post# 723945 , Reply# 51   12/30/2013 at 18:38 (3,741 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Spinarinse Instructions 2

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Post# 724175 , Reply# 52   12/31/2013 at 19:15 (3,740 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK))        

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Thanks for the explanation Al. I was wondering if the pump runs all the time the motor is running, does the water recirculate back in to the tub during washing? I wouldn't think that when the empty pipe is attached at both ends it would be like a dead end. Surly that would not be good for the pump. However, if it did circulate you could just poke the thin end of the fill hose in to the port where the water recirculates back in to the tub. I think the Servce TT worked like that.
Happy New Year to one and all

Simon


Post# 724563 , Reply# 53   1/2/2014 at 16:41 (3,738 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Great brochures Al - thanks for posting and yes happy to help get the pump up and running. The impeller on mine was loose on the shaft so it could be the same issue with yours. I was hoping to get the videos on line but having a few IT issues at the mo with the video. Hopefully should have it sorted at the weekend.

Does anyone know what the speed of these are? I would imagine the newer models would have been the same as the twin tubs as they had the same numbers but not sure about these models.

Hi Simon. The pump on the single tub does run constantly and against a dead end. Not sure why they didn't either fit a lever to disengage the pump or fit a connection back to the tub but there you go. You have to make sure the lid is on when you go to empty as the impeller can really throw the water around and you get an indoor shower!

S :)


Post# 724750 , Reply# 54   1/3/2014 at 14:22 (3,737 days old) by triumphdolomite (Staffs(UK))        
Spin Speeds

Steve
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the 3019 Spinarinse and the 3021 Spin Dryer were only 1800rpm against 2300 of the twinnys. I've always assumed that the spin speeds remained the same throughout the production run. I'd be interested if anyone can confirm this or did I dream it?

Ian.


Post# 724781 , Reply# 55   1/3/2014 at 17:16 (3,737 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        
Video

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Hi Ian

You might be right as it does sound slower. The D3010 I have is rated at 240W and the 3004A is rated at 300W so you would think it might spin faster but perhaps motor technology was less efficient in those days. Be interested to know if anyone has any old literature that lists the speed

anyway, while I'm on a roll here is a link to a short video of it in action spinning the load that has just come out of the Colston.
S


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Post# 725040 , Reply# 56   1/4/2014 at 15:10 (3,736 days old) by jules ()        
Hoover 0321

Hi Steve

Just read your post, thought you might be interested in mine Thread# 50281 Hoover Model 0321   
Free to a good home!

Please let me know

Thanks

Jules


Post# 727361 , Reply# 57   1/13/2014 at 06:25 (3,727 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Spin Speeds

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All looking good there Steve, which model was easier to work on the early spinner or later squarer models?

Spin Speeds from Hoover doctrine..

Spinners
3004 = 2150 / 2400
3007 = 1950
3012 = 1800
3019 = 2100


TwinTubs
3174 = 1700 / 2100
3301 = 1800 / 2100
3314 = 2300

variations depending on voltage


Post# 727459 , Reply# 58   1/13/2014 at 14:42 (3,727 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Thanks Mike

Funny how the speeds slowed down a bit with the newer models. Did they standardise on the twinnies and spin dryers after the 3314L? No match for the hotpoints!

The square machine was easier as the pin holding the brake lever on the 3004a is a real sod to get at and remove and reinsert! Also I was more familiar with the motor on the newer one as it's the same as the Twinnies I have.

S :)



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