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Post# 107442   2/2/2006 at 21:44 (6,649 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Scheduled to arrive in July 2006. 4.5 cu ft *toploading* washer/dryer COMBO CLICK HERE TO GO TO dadoes's LINK |
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Post# 107443 , Reply# 1   2/2/2006 at 21:47 (6,649 days old) by westytoploader ()   |   | |
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All I can say is WOW...I wonder how this will be accomplished? Doesn't say if it's an h-axis machine in the article. Bouncing basket maybe? I heard it was based on the Oasis in another thread. |
Post# 107447 , Reply# 2   2/2/2006 at 21:55 (6,649 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 107449 , Reply# 3   2/2/2006 at 22:02 (6,649 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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I'm suspicious about it being a 'combo' unit. Consider a couple of things: It would have to be a Staber-type machine, right (top loading, but H-axis)? Can you imagine trying to pull clothes out of a tub that deep? You'd need an arm extension! I'll be a balloon-popper and guess that the Cabrio will be a separate washer and dryer, a twin to the Kenmore Oasis. If I'm wrong, you can all point and laugh at me, LOL. Actually, I hope I AM wrong! It would be an interesting unit. |
Post# 107458 , Reply# 4   2/2/2006 at 22:09 (6,649 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 107460 , Reply# 5   2/2/2006 at 22:11 (6,649 days old) by westytoploader ()   |   | |
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It does emphasize on "combination washer-dryer" though, so I wouldn't think it would be a separate unit. But then it could be a stacked set, where the term "Combo" is used the most... |
Post# 107461 , Reply# 6   2/2/2006 at 22:13 (6,649 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 107473 , Reply# 7   2/2/2006 at 23:13 (6,649 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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I read the text again. The term "combo" in the traditional sense apparently is being misued. A separate washer and dryer is mentioned (underlining is mine): ...and is said to significantly reduce dry time through a combination of the washer’s ultra-fast spin speed and the dryer’s AccelerCare(TM) system. |
Post# 107476 , Reply# 8   2/2/2006 at 23:25 (6,649 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Whirlpool does not mean "dryer" as in heated clothes dryer, but as in spin dryer. Someone posted a link in another section to an Appliance Magazine PR release on upcoming Whirlpool appliances. The Cabrio will have a very high final rpm spin speed, thus removing more moisture than most if not all top loaders currently on the American market. Think along the lines of a F&P or vintage Frigidare with their 1140 rpm final spin speeds and you are on the right track. Whirlpool is selling the Cabrio on the fact that it will not only launder a huge amount of laundry at once, but will spin that laundry out so dry it will require less time in the dryer, if any time at all. Think what we are seeing here is American appliance makers trying to design something unique to the American market; washing machines that hold allot of laundry, are top loading (which most Americans still vastly prefer), are gentle on clothing (no central beater) and have fast final spin speeds to remove more water/detergent residue and speed drying times. Fast final spins will help reduce energy use since laundry will take less time in the dryer, this will help offset the amount of energy required for heating water (warm or hot water), again building a washer more suited to the way Americans prefer doing laundry. Launderess |
Post# 107533 , Reply# 9   2/3/2006 at 08:25 (6,649 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 107535 , Reply# 10   2/3/2006 at 08:38 (6,649 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Someone posted a link to a video of the Cabrio on THS. It's better looking than the Oasis IMHO. The window is clear! That is at least an advantage over the Oasis.
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Post# 107537 , Reply# 11   2/3/2006 at 08:43 (6,649 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 107547 , Reply# 12   2/3/2006 at 10:37 (6,649 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 107579 , Reply# 13   2/3/2006 at 13:12 (6,649 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 108197 , Reply# 16   2/6/2006 at 13:46 (6,646 days old) by the7 ()   |   | |
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My son in Hong Kong recently bought a Thomson TX 898 which is a washer/dryer combo, made in France. It washes 6kg and drys 3 kg. Brandt has an identical combo. |
Post# 108666 , Reply# 19   2/9/2006 at 07:01 (6,643 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 108683 , Reply# 20   2/9/2006 at 10:02 (6,643 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Here's a link to a company from Singapore that sells this machine. BTW, the Thomson machines are very similar to the Brandt washers. IÍRC it's the same washer from the same company, just a different label.
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Post# 108688 , Reply# 21   2/9/2006 at 11:07 (6,643 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 108690 , Reply# 22   2/9/2006 at 11:27 (6,643 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 108691 , Reply# 23   2/9/2006 at 11:50 (6,643 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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In 1978 Which Consumer Reports we had two Tl Washer Dryer`s tested. These where the Frigidaire & Miele. The Frigidaire was made by GM in France , Miele obviously Germany. Frigidaire Spec = H 96, W 45, D 62, 5kg Load , Cold Fill, 850 RPM, Price = £300 Miele Spec = H 85, W 44, D 63, 4.3kg load, Cold Fill, 920 RPM, Price = £699 Both machines took over 2hrs to dry 2.5kg load (17 cotton nappies), Both where Condenser Dryers, Water Cooled. |
Post# 108696 , Reply# 24   2/9/2006 at 13:18 (6,643 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 108783 , Reply# 25   2/10/2006 at 02:04 (6,642 days old) by the7 ()   |   | |
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My son in HK says Brandt has an identical model as Thomson TX898 with name only the change of name. |
Post# 108791 , Reply# 26   2/10/2006 at 02:45 (6,642 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 108851 , Reply# 31   2/10/2006 at 11:54 (6,642 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Diomede, Perhaps you should start a separate thread about the H-axis toploaders. I am a fan of those machines too, but apparently the American consumer isn't. It was suggested to me that the average American consumer would find it too inconvenient to open two lids before being able to load or unload the washer. I guess that is the reason the F&P TL dryer has an automatic system to open and close the drum. Has anyone seen the Whirlpool Cabrio yet? Enquiring minds want to know!! |
Post# 108857 , Reply# 32   2/10/2006 at 12:42 (6,642 days old) by the7 ()   |   | |
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I did have an Brandt washer in 198x-199X which had window lid. However what one could see was foam/sud and the rotation of the drum. |
Post# 108865 , Reply# 33   2/10/2006 at 13:07 (6,642 days old) by varenovator ()   |   | |
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IIRC, the Cabrio is WP's version of the Oasis, which they build for Sears. There are pictures posted of the Oasis, including a look inside the basket. It is a vertical axis machine. |
Post# 108909 , Reply# 34   2/10/2006 at 17:49 (6,641 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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IMHO, do not think it is the dual lids of top loading H-Axis washers, but product libility that keeps them out of American markets. All that metal and sharp edges on the inner drum/drum door can if one is not careful cause all sorts of problems. Problems a class action attorney would just love to jump all over.
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