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Post# 710986   10/23/2013 at 05:23 (3,831 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        

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Does anyone have the wiring diagram that goes to a newer model AWN432 speed Queen? You can PM me if its more convenient.

Thanks!





Post# 711060 , Reply# 1   10/23/2013 at 13:19 (3,831 days old) by LLMaytag (Southern California)        
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I have an AWN432, I can look for the documents that came with it and see if there is one. I'll check tonight when I get home.

Post# 711070 , Reply# 2   10/23/2013 at 14:37 (3,831 days old) by JeffG ()        

One diagram was posted a while back in this forum, not sure which model it is. It was in a discussion related to warm vs. cold water rinsing, and modifying the washer to always rinse in warm water. :) (BTW thanks again to whoever provided that gem. No more extra plumbing behind our washer. Yay!)

All SQ residential top loaders of the last 10+ years are virtually identical, they change graphic panels and knobs between series and lower the water levels :(, and that's about it, so the wiring diagram of one model is a basic guide for all of them.


Post# 711075 , Reply# 3   10/23/2013 at 15:47 (3,831 days old) by thefixer ()        

That was me that provided the temp mod. The diagram for the 542 and 432 are different as the 542 has a speed switch (fabric select), the 432 does not. I have photo's only of the diagrams but they are not very high resolution. Maybe LLMaytag can provide a good high res photo of his. The diagram should be folded inside the control panel.

Post# 711108 , Reply# 4   10/23/2013 at 18:41 (3,831 days old) by JeffG ()        

Promise to start my own thread on this if it goes beyond one answer, but could that jumper you described be routed through an external switch to select between cold and warm rinse temps? Our original plan was to replace the 3-position temp switch on our AWS76 with one from immediately prior, AWS75 (4-position). Do you happen to know if the two are socket compatible?

Thanks again for this.


Post# 711115 , Reply# 5   10/23/2013 at 19:13 (3,831 days old) by thefixer ()        

The mod I had provided would make rinse temp the same as whatever you selected for wash, hot-warm-cold. Being able to select different temps for wash and rinse is a whole nother ballgame.

Post# 711141 , Reply# 6   10/24/2013 at 01:53 (3,830 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        

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Thanks for the replies!:D

Diagrams not behind the console as it should be. The machines an early 2013 model but was a scratch and dent return/repair. Works fine however.


I think you guys know me well already, Im trying to figure out how to get the machine to automatically do warm rinses when selected, (ie, hot warm and warm warm like the older vintage machines)without any adapters or Y hoses. On my daily driver(2010 DD Kenmore) from the wiring and cycle diagrams I was able to cut in a selector switch that overrides the ATC for full hot washes and warm rinses when needed, and of course back to normal. The dumbed down hot, cool warm and all cold rinse are just insanity. The speed queen looks a lot simpler, so far no ATC board that I can see and no sensors around the water valves, so far a big plus in my opinion.

Cold water rinses and washes are not really a problem during the summer but around here the city water goes down to 34 degrees during the winter. Water that cold does not rinse Tide or Purex out to well, even the natural real soaps have a hard time getting out of the fabric.


Post# 711162 , Reply# 7   10/24/2013 at 06:13 (3,830 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Adding A Warm Rince Option To A New SQ TL Washer

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It should be quite easy to just install a toggle switch on the rear of the control panel that also turns on the hot valve coil when ever just the cold would be activated.

 

I don't know where you live but we sometimes get water here that comes into the house under 40 degrees F in the winter and I have actually found it rinses detergent and bleach out better that much warmer water and wish I could have colder rinse water all year, it is also much better for fabrics and for reducing wrinkling and keeping any residual bacteria for multiplying in the clothing and washer till the clothing go in the dryer. I do agree if you are actually using real soap a rinse temperature over 70 degrees F would probably work better.


Post# 711165 , Reply# 8   10/24/2013 at 06:46 (3,830 days old) by YoGiTuNeS (New Jersey)        

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don't kid yourself....SQ does dub down the WARM wash....HOT is HOT, COLD is COLD from tap....but the WARM is a 60/40 mix.....unless you drill the valve and correct it for a true WARM wash or rinse

Post# 711170 , Reply# 9   10/24/2013 at 07:52 (3,830 days old) by thefixer ()        

So, here's the wiring diagram showing my mod that allows rinse temp to be same as wash temp. Instead of this, you could just add a toggle switch between timer gray wire and temp switch orange wire to turn on warm rinse.

In the diagram, in wash mode, timer P connects to H, V connects to W. In rinse, P to V and V to R which is not used.



Post# 711175 , Reply# 10   10/24/2013 at 09:01 (3,830 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        

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The water in my area does drop below 40 unfortunately in the dead of winter. I do use real soap with work clothes and sheets which I know does better in warm rinses. I would also say it looks like regular tide performs better in a cool rinse than a cold one. Just my experience. I put the clothes immediately in the dryer, bacteria is not a concern to me.

I was expecting the fill valves to be dumbed down, even in the 90s I was seeing smaller hot orifices. I do have fill valves from the 80s though in case the dumbed down warm gets to be to much of a problem.

My plan is to put something in that will automatically switch hot to warm and warm to warm when selected and back to default when needed.


Post# 711201 , Reply# 11   10/24/2013 at 13:21 (3,830 days old) by JeffG ()        

If time is important I'd recommend drilling out the valve. It cut washer fill times by about 1/3 on our machine.

Post# 711203 , Reply# 12   10/24/2013 at 13:31 (3,830 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
Drilling fill valves

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Thanks!

Ive been thinking about that. However if the water fill rate is to low I have some water valves from a 1984 Belt driven whirlpool I can swap in. Probably will do in the end.


Post# 711204 , Reply# 13   10/24/2013 at 13:32 (3,830 days old) by YoGiTuNeS (New Jersey)        

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you are so right Jeff....the Cabrio and GE both fill a heck of a lot faster without those restrictors or smaller valve inlets..

Post# 711219 , Reply# 14   10/24/2013 at 14:23 (3,830 days old) by JeffG ()        

Since the OP's subject is the same as mine (warm water rinses), another question for thefixer.. The mod I'm talking about is the second one you described (and the one we did on ours). See quote and link:

"If instead of doing the mod I showed, you could tap into terminal R of the timer which is pin 18 of the timer connector (normally not connected to anything) and jump that to pin 3 of the temp switch, you would always have a warm rinse and normal function of the wash temp as per temp switch setting.

In wash cycle, timer terminal P connects to terminal H and V connects to W. In rinse cycle, P connects to V and V connects to R (R not normally used). "

I'm asking what would happen if we routed this jumper through an external switch.


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Post# 711229 , Reply# 15   10/24/2013 at 16:01 (3,830 days old) by thefixer ()        

That would be fine and would allow you to select cold or warm rinse.

Post# 711238 , Reply# 16   10/24/2013 at 17:43 (3,830 days old) by JeffG ()        

Perfect. Killer info, thanks again.



Post# 711448 , Reply# 17   10/26/2013 at 03:45 (3,828 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        

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I found this one line but It doesnt seem to fit the AWN432 Entirely. I will see if I can adapt it to mine though. But just in case, can anyone one take a quick pick of theres?



Post# 711466 , Reply# 18   10/26/2013 at 08:05 (3,828 days old) by thefixer ()        

Why do you say it doesn't fit the AWN432 entirely?

Post# 711480 , Reply# 19   10/26/2013 at 11:17 (3,828 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        

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Mine has 2 wires going to a switch on front "extra rinse", not full blown different, but just a few wires are going to a few different spots on the timer. My concern though is my machine seems to have "extra rinse" after each cycle, which means the timer is a different model which worries me if the water fill contacts are cycled in the same manner as the above chart or if there is a 3rd contact in the timer in series with the extra rinse switch which closes to fill up for a final rinse. (violet wire for the cold goes back into the timer where it might also connect to an internal jumper to the extra rinse switch or the like)

Just don't want to cut the wrong wires and find latter something is not right.

But anyways, thanks for the help! :)


Post# 711637 , Reply# 20   10/27/2013 at 08:23 (3,827 days old) by thefixer ()        

The only thing the extra rinse switch does in these models is allow the timer to continue running til it gets to the fill portion of the extra rinse cycle. It has no function in the actual filling stage.

Post# 711642 , Reply# 21   10/27/2013 at 08:51 (3,827 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
Extra Rinse Switch

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Thanks! I got it now!


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