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Thread Number: 49257
Kitchenaid KDSS-21 Video |
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| Post# 712859 , Reply# 2 11/2/2013 at 20:43 (3,821 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
Way Cool. | ||
Post# 712924 , Reply# 3 11/3/2013 at 07:03 (3,820 days old) by chachp  (North Little Rock, AR) |
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What a gorgeous machine!
Does this model give you an option for an extra rinse? As much as I didn't think it made a big difference I see now that I think it does. I have gone from a KDS-21 as my daily driver to a KDS-20 and the dishes seem shinier or brighter or something. Not sure exactly how to describe it but I think it has a lot to do with that extra rinse. Also the 20 seems to have purges between washes that may make a difference. Or maybe I'm all wrong. Maybe the 20 moves more water. Who knows but I feel like the dishes are cleaner.
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Post# 713509 , Reply# 5 11/6/2013 at 08:03 (3,817 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Yay Chris Glad You Got The KDSS-21 Going I guess you and I are the only two people in the world to have one of these unique machines that still operate properly. Mine is the KDSS-20. I will probably remove mine from daily service sometime in the next year or so and install it as part of the Great Wall Of Dishwashers where I am connecting 21 classic DWs at the museum before something really goes wrong, LOL.
It is inspiring to see younger folks tackling and fixing early electronic appliances, I should try to post a video of mine running. | ||
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Post# 713571 , Reply# 6 11/6/2013 at 17:25 (3,817 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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This is quite interesting. I have used multiple Hobart AM-14 dishwashers that were introduced at roughly the same time as the KDSS-20. They are completely controlled by a PCB microcomputer for tank heat, auto fill, and motor/(booster heater in later revisions with an auxiliary PCB) and cycling These were continued through 2002. The electronic failures in the KDSS machines were never an issue for the AM-14. Millions of these machines continue to work in a multitude of applications today. I wonder what the difference was in Hobart's electronics? WK78 | ||
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Post# 713574 , Reply# 7 11/6/2013 at 17:53 (3,817 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN) |
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what the difference was in Hobart's electronics
I'd venture a guess that is as simple as cost and engineering quality. The Hobart machine is expected to keep running through anything and the buyers aren't afraid to open their wallets.
Properly designed and built I'll take electronics over anything mechanical for long term reliability. Electronics don't wear out. And they can offer the advantage of flexibility and control to boot. Poorly made, cost cut electronics like we see in consumer appliances just aren't ruggedized and can't withstand the rigors the real world puts on them. | ||
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Post# 713602 , Reply# 8 11/6/2013 at 20:36 (3,817 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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Exactly Right Phil! I posted that question to see if anyone would give the right answer, and you DID! The electronics in the AM series were much more robust than the KD series as are the mechanicals. This is for good reason, an AM-14 dishwasher is designed to do hundreds of cycles per day over 20+ years and a KDSS-20/21 is designed for residential use. WK78 | ||
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