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My new Kitchenmore washer.
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Post# 714074   11/9/2013 at 03:35 (3,792 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        

Hey y'all, so I acquired this kenmore 80 series dd washer, and I didn't like the crappy triple action agi in her, so I swapped it out with a KitchenAid turquoise agitator, the big boy, as this kenmore is a 3 speed, I keep the setting on slow agitation, and it's just like having a KitchenAid superba washer.
Here are some pics of the kitchenmore.





Post# 714076 , Reply# 1   11/9/2013 at 03:36 (3,792 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        
Control panel #1

In almond

Post# 714077 , Reply# 2   11/9/2013 at 03:39 (3,792 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        
Control panel #2

Love it

Post# 714078 , Reply# 3   11/9/2013 at 03:41 (3,792 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        
And the money shot

My little kitchenmore

Post# 714113 , Reply# 4   11/9/2013 at 08:27 (3,792 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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these now come in all white....the best thing is that chrome ring.....

try it a few times on high agitation, even if only water only, talk about tidal waves of water....

this puppy will wash a large load effectively.....how high is your top water level?....I raised mine


Post# 714114 , Reply# 5   11/9/2013 at 08:40 (3,792 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)        

the LAST great washing machines made for Sears by Whirlpool!
Mike


Post# 714118 , Reply# 6   11/9/2013 at 08:54 (3,792 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York)        

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Remember not to use high speed agitation with that agitator, it will burnout the motor and cause tranny failure because of extra stress!
I should know, I've done this myself....
Normal/casual speed gives the same performance like a belt drive agitator with the K.A. agitator!


Post# 714153 , Reply# 7   11/9/2013 at 12:51 (3,792 days old) by rustyspaatz ()        

I bought this washer for my Mother in 1999, at the Sears Outlet store. It had a small dent in the side. Also got a new, matching, electric 29" dryer.

They lasted her until 2010 when she innocently replaced with a new MOL Whirlpool top loader set. 2 gallons for the rinse, a water valve and sensor that was constantly causing water hammer in the pipes (on-off, on-off-on).

The agitator looks out of place. You would get very good turn over with the original as well.


Post# 714161 , Reply# 8   11/9/2013 at 13:25 (3,792 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        
The Kitchenmore

Is a great little machine indeed and with this bigger agitator it really turns the load over, even on ex slow speed, I have tried it on fast speed with only water, and as yogi said, a freakin tidal wave, I was like yay!! Lol, sorry had a child moment. I raised the level in mine as well. Video comming soon

Post# 714215 , Reply# 9   11/9/2013 at 17:58 (3,792 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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These were nice machines. I never liked DD that much but they were good performers none the less. Sears did their homework on these machines however, low speed on a DD is equivalent in roughness to normal on most other machines. I guess one can say these had a real Heavy-duty cycle. The extra slow intermittent was another good idea on the side of Sears. ATC was a good feature to only present on Whirlpool machines much higher than this at the time. So you did get your monies worth when buying these.

 

On a side of caution, Im not sure what was different in the transmissions of DD washers but as stated above I have heard of these agitators wearing out transmissions on larger loads. Just another heads up. BTW, why was it these agitators were ok in Kitchen Aids and not other DDs?


Post# 714218 , Reply# 10   11/9/2013 at 18:04 (3,792 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I have use both speeds......but mainly high for all loads.....and never had an issue, but have heard others with failures because of the stress factor...

the only other thing I added was the heavy duty coupler as well.......mine is a 95, bought new, and to think of it, I only had to replace it once so far....

don't worry about being a kid....you only live once, we all can relate, just glad it worked out for you, and your gettting full enjoyment out of it...looking forward to the video


Post# 714222 , Reply# 11   11/9/2013 at 18:25 (3,792 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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BTW, why was it these agitators were ok in Kitchen Aids and not other DDs?
KitchenAid used three-speed motors, and the medium motor speed (equivalent to low on a 2-speeder) was run for high agitation ... thus not as much strain on the mechanism as would be the case if high motor speed was run.  KA also used a slightly more robust motor.


Post# 714227 , Reply# 12   11/9/2013 at 18:53 (3,792 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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a Kitchen Aid exclusive.......

suprised Kenmore didn't claim this one for their own......they always seemed to do one up over Whirlpool....

you would have expected to see this in at least the LadyK or Limited versions...


Post# 714230 , Reply# 13   11/9/2013 at 19:04 (3,792 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Kenmore had the Triple-Action exclusive.


Post# 714265 , Reply# 14   11/9/2013 at 22:09 (3,791 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        

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Kenmore has always had very good cycle combinations along with some clever agitator modifications. I think Sears had some really good consumer appliance experts and designers on board when writing the specs for the Kenmores. There were times when I thought the Kenmore line looked and was set up better than the Whirlpool badged machines.  

 


Post# 714272 , Reply# 15   11/9/2013 at 23:10 (3,791 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        
And that's why I love

My kenmore machines, growing up my whole family had kenmore washers, and indeed their set up was far superior to whirlpool, they just seemed so plain and featureless, even their TOL models, and for this reason I chose to put a kitchenaid agitator in this kenmore I knew she could handle it, so now I have a DD Machine that cleans as gentle as a beloved belt drive. I'm trying to upload a video, but imma have to compress it to fit.

Post# 714276 , Reply# 16   11/9/2013 at 23:56 (3,791 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        
Curious to know

Based on the model number can anyone tell me what year this machine is? Model #110.22894100.
Thanks


Post# 714288 , Reply# 17   11/10/2013 at 03:35 (3,791 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)        

What's the difference between the agitator that was taken out and the one you put in? What makes the agitator triple-action? I'm only use to seeing the dual action units.

Also, in #3, what's the purpose of having the agitator sitting there with fabric softener in it or am I seeing things?


Post# 714296 , Reply# 18   11/10/2013 at 04:59 (3,791 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)        

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I would love to see a video of the high speed agitation with the turquoise agitator and full load of clothes. Yogitunes if you get a chance, would you please make one and post it?

Post# 714306 , Reply# 19   11/10/2013 at 06:09 (3,791 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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As others have mentioned, avoid using the high agitation speed if you're using a KitchenAid agitator, whose fins are larger than the original-issue Kenmore agitator.

I had a circa 1989 KitchenAid, and its fast agitation was 120 ppm, compared to 180 on Kenmore/Whirlpool models.

You mentioned gentle clothes care; you'll get far from that if you use the Kenmore's high agitation speed with that agitator.


Post# 714309 , Reply# 20   11/10/2013 at 06:18 (3,791 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        

The main reason I switched the agitator is that I can use it on the slow speed, and get far better results than I would have with the standard agitator. I used a KitchenAid in FL this summer and I was impressed with the over all turn over, and cleaning ability of this agitator coupled with the slower agitation speed, I do not intend to use it on the high speed, that will shred the clothes to pieces.

Post# 714310 , Reply# 21   11/10/2013 at 06:22 (3,791 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        
@ Washdaddy

This agitator is much better at cleaning on a slower speed, and can turn larger loads over much more effortlessly than the standard can do on high speed much less on low.

And its the glare from the flash, I don't use liquid fabric softener in my machine, its the devil, lol....


Post# 714313 , Reply# 22   11/10/2013 at 06:30 (3,791 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Based on the model number can anyone tell me what year this machine is? Model #110.22894100.
The serial number is more precise, coded with the year and week of manufacture.


Post# 714633 , Reply# 23   11/11/2013 at 16:01 (3,790 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I love the color of that

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My grandma had a Kenmore dual action washer....That thing washed A LOT of clothes and did a great job.......I never remember anything being ripped or destroyed from that agitator.

I like the looks of this one though. I actually like the color and the shape


Post# 714635 , Reply# 24   11/11/2013 at 16:07 (3,790 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

It's too bad the standard WP DA agitator wasn't that color, I would love it!


Post# 714638 , Reply# 25   11/11/2013 at 16:24 (3,790 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Oh....the standard size base comes in that color too!.....tall spiral with dispenser or plain cap as well...from the standard 2 speed models......


heres one in the all white......


CLICK HERE TO GO TO Yogitunes's LINK on eBay


Post# 714694 , Reply# 26   11/11/2013 at 19:00 (3,790 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        
"Kenmore--one up over Whirlpool"

Guess there was a good reason for that; for many years, well over half of Whirlpool's production was for Sears. I don't know the exact percentages, but would think at least 65%. Also, Sears was a major stockholder in Whirlpool Corp.

Post# 714712 , Reply# 27   11/11/2013 at 20:01 (3,789 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA )        
Glad this was posted!

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I wish I saved that agitator from the KA that I junked after it blew up and was going to get one on ebay for my Kenmore series 90. With my luck, It would of blew the transmission up on slow speed!!..so I'll stick with the agitator it stuck with...even thought the KA agitator sure is Purdy!

Post# 714762 , Reply# 28   11/12/2013 at 01:52 (3,789 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        
Just look

At the base on this thing. Sure moves the clothes around.

Post# 714763 , Reply# 29   11/12/2013 at 01:57 (3,789 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        
And

Tall too. And I promise a video is coming. I wanna make it a good one.

Post# 714787 , Reply# 30   11/12/2013 at 04:18 (3,789 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        
Here are some

Videos as promised, here ya go yogi.. Not the best quality bit I will get better ones..

CLICK HERE TO GO TO speed_queen75's LINK


Post# 714788 , Reply# 31   11/12/2013 at 04:19 (3,789 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        
And here

Is part two.. Enjoy

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Post# 714791 , Reply# 32   11/12/2013 at 04:30 (3,789 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Yep -

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Slow speed is PUURFECT for that agitator.....

Yea - the fast agitation - too fast.....

Hope you find out what the squeaking is.



Post# 714817 , Reply# 33   11/12/2013 at 07:49 (3,789 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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the squeeking is most likely from the suspension and snubbers wearing a mark in one location...sometimes hard to correct


that agitator is actually called a "SureScrub"


Post# 715075 , Reply# 34   11/13/2013 at 13:10 (3,788 days old) by DirectDriveDave ()        

Wow, that is indeed some good turnover with that speed.

 

I must keep my standard WP agitator though. High speed is more fun to listen to/look at, so I think. heh

 

 

And, thanks, Martin! I'll probably do some searching for that color with the standard base.


Post# 715118 , Reply# 35   11/13/2013 at 15:44 (3,788 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        
Rumor has it.

That the new belt drive Kenmore washer with the triple action agitator I'm the purty blue has a base as big as this kitchen aid one. I've yet to see one though.

Post# 715204 , Reply# 36   11/13/2013 at 21:44 (3,787 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        
DADoES

The serial number for this machine is CL 4405237

Post# 715265 , Reply# 37   11/14/2013 at 04:51 (3,787 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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44th week of 2001.


Post# 715277 , Reply# 38   11/14/2013 at 06:47 (3,787 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Good heavens, Glenn! What voodoo mathematics did you employ to decode the date of manufacture from the serial number?

Post# 715286 , Reply# 39   11/14/2013 at 08:07 (3,787 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        
Serial Numbers

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LOL.  I have a decoding chart, and the info can also be found online.

First letter is manufacturing facility.  C = Clyde OH.
(There may be an extra leading letter for "foreign"/3rd-party manufacture such as the Duets made in Germany.)

2nd character is year. L = 2001
Prior to 1990 the coding was 0 through 9 per the last digit, i.e. 0 = 1970, 9 = 1979.  Letters were added in 1990 to reduce repetition of the pattern.

3rd & 4th position (numbers) is the week of the designated year.

Remainder of the number is production sequence in that week.

Being that there is repetition in the coding, it's sometimes necessary to get a visual on the machine or also reference the model number to differentiate, for example, 1970 from 1980.


Post# 715317 , Reply# 40   11/14/2013 at 11:59 (3,787 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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Lee,

Is this the one you are talking about?

 


Post# 715336 , Reply# 41   11/14/2013 at 14:06 (3,787 days old) by speed_queen75 ()        
@Joe

Yup that's the one, it looks to be a big as the KitchenAid those fins look like they would move some water, correct me if im wrong..


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