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Post# 714471   11/10/2013 at 20:16 (3,818 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Well, thanks to AW Power, my "new" GE range landed in Waterloo this evening just after 6:00 pm. John (oldskool) fetched her all the way from where Tim (polkanut) found her and brought her to me! Many, many thanks to them both, and to Ben (swestoyz) who dropped by and helped enormously with getting her into the house.
I am thrilled so far, although I won't have a chance to dive into her until this Wednesday. She is a Model J 370002 WH, serial number F N268442 G. If that helps anyone date her, I'd be grateful for the info. I'm thinking '73 or '74. All cosmetic issues I see are addressable; I won't be living with any of those "Oh, that's too bad" issues. The major cosmetic issue at this point is that she needs a new set of knobs; the ones she has have been dishwasher-faded. She has some features I didn't realize she'd have. One is tilt-up Calrods instead of plug-in ones. Another is trim rings with drop-in burner bowls instead of one-piece burner bowls. She is all and I do mean all porcelain, including the sides and even unto the inside of the storage drawer. She has that early P * 7 slide-up oven window shield, which I haven't seen since about 1977. One thing she does not have is the setup we've all seen on ranges for the last twenty years - a wall bracket with dire warnings about the range tipping over if the oven door is opened without the bracket installed. This baby is wayyyyy too heavy for that ever to be a problem! The Sensi-Temp burner is also the multi-size kind, selectable for 4", 6" and 8" burner use. It's also set up to handle a griddle; I'm guessing that turns on the 6" burner behind the Sensi-Temp burner. While the oven selector knob has a "Rotisserie" setting, there is not a rotisserie kit port in the rear wall of the oven, which is actually a relief, because if there was a rotisserie available, I'd want one, and I already know what those puppies fetch on eBay. I have a lot of detail cleaning to do. She's actually quite clean for such an old unit, but there's the usual schmutz in the usual crevices. But she's real and she's here and I could not have done it without this group! In fact, I really didn't do it at all - others were the driving force here. I am grateful, guys. More - much more - later. |
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Post# 714479 , Reply# 2   11/10/2013 at 21:44 (3,818 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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If I'm reading it right, your range was built 3/72. I'm attaching a link to GE's cheat sheet. The corner of my garage where this range had been residing for the last 3 ½ months sure looks empty now. But, I'm glad I was able to help you in some small way acquire a long desired appliance. CLICK HERE TO GO TO polkanut's LINK |
Post# 714481 , Reply# 3   11/10/2013 at 22:08 (3,818 days old) by hydralique (Los Angeles)   |   | |
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That's a handsome example of classic American design, so nice to see it in good hands. |
Post# 714485 , Reply# 4   11/10/2013 at 22:32 (3,818 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)   |   | |
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Sandy, actually the GE ranges that I have used with a "griddle" setting it turns on ONLY the outer (8") ring of the large burner. This emulates the kind of heat pattern that you would get in an electric frying pan or griddle. It keeps the center from getting to hot.
(BTW, is got a glimpse of this beautiful range in the van earlier today, I also owe you an email….) |
Post# 714486 , Reply# 5   11/10/2013 at 22:32 (3,818 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Yay, Sandy, these were great ranges, as Tim mentioned this range is earlier than 73-4, appliance outlets were discontinued by this time. On the 3 size Sensi-Temp burner when you select griddle it turns off the center 4" part of the burner for more even heating with a large pan or griddle [ the griddle setting is also ideal with large skillets ], but does not activate the rear element like GE did on many of their 40" ranges.
The selector Switch should not say rotisserie unless the range has this feature, I would guess that the selector switch knob is not correct for your range ?.
Let us know how you like it once the fall dinner parties get in full swing. John L. |
Post# 714499 , Reply# 6   11/10/2013 at 23:35 (3,818 days old) by retropia ()   |   | |
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Sounds like it is built like a tank, congrats! |
Post# 714505 , Reply# 7   11/11/2013 at 00:51 (3,818 days old) by d-jones (Western Pennsylvania (Pittsburgh Area))   |   | |
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Post# 714506 , Reply# 8   11/11/2013 at 01:01 (3,818 days old) by alr2903 (TN)   |   | |
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Good for you Sandy, your GE is a stunner. I wish you the very best with it. alr |
Post# 714529 , Reply# 9   11/11/2013 at 05:42 (3,818 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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First up, it's nice to see so many congratulatory messages! Thanks, everyone.
I was guessing '73 or so because this range is not shown in the 1971 full-line GE catalog I have (Shameless plug: It's available on Automatic Ephemera). But there is a notice in the '71 catalog that says styling and features would be changing on April 1, 1971, and there is a very similar model in the catalog already, the J 339L; just the backguard/control panel is different. So, Tim, I think your reading of the "cheat sheet" is correct, because it's consistent with the catalog notice. I think I may have found the griddle for this baby - it's a square Teflon-coated unit that fits one burner. And God knows, 1971 was Teflon Heaven if you like the stuff. John, so far as I know, these are the original knobs, but there's always room for doubt. Their styling matches the burner size selector knob, which is unique on the control panel; there aren't any other knobs like that one. I'm hoping to have the range clean and powered up for the first time on Wednesday. My hope at that point is that everything works, because repairs on certain systems of this range will be challenging for me. After she's up and running - on to meat loaf, spattery casseroles, roast chickens and the like. Hell, I'm getting a craving for duck! Again, thanks everybody. |
Post# 714535 , Reply# 10   11/11/2013 at 06:35 (3,818 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Post# 714538 , Reply# 11   11/11/2013 at 07:10 (3,818 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)   |   | |
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Post# 714543 , Reply# 12   11/11/2013 at 07:27 (3,818 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 714545 , Reply# 13   11/11/2013 at 07:30 (3,818 days old) by moparguy (Virginia)   |   | |
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What a beautiful stove, and as you and everyone has commented, how nice to have a dream stove, and one when a stove was a solid, feature-rich, beautiful stove built to cook and to last! Here's to many years of enjoyment! |
Post# 714548 , Reply# 14   11/11/2013 at 07:40 (3,818 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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That is not my actual selector knob; mine's too faded to read, almost. But mine has the same five positions on it - Off, Broil, Clean, Time Bake and Bake.
The "Rotisserie" indication is on the oven TEMP knob, where it indicates "Rotisserie" for the temp settings between 275F and 425F. These are luxury knobs, for sure. They are heavy chromed pot metal, with a plastic shaft center and knob assembly, and evidently silk-screened adhesive-backed sheet metal for the indicia. They are surprisingly heavy in the hand. |
Post# 714555 , Reply# 15   11/11/2013 at 08:26 (3,818 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)   |   | |
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Post# 714596 , Reply# 17   11/11/2013 at 13:46 (3,817 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Post# 714608 , Reply# 18   11/11/2013 at 14:23 (3,817 days old) by rustyspaatz ()   |   | |
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yes, but that doesn't say when they stopped installing them. I'm thinking it was late 60s. |
Post# 714634 , Reply# 19   11/11/2013 at 16:05 (3,817 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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I have a Frigidaire that was bought in March of 75 that stll has an outlet, it turns out it was a leftover 74 model.....RE DUCK!!! I remember my Mother cooked a duck one time...it took forever to clean the oven...id just as soon cook a greasy old possum..LOL! |
Post# 714636 , Reply# 20   11/11/2013 at 16:09 (3,817 days old) by rickr (.)   |   | |
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Post# 714677 , Reply# 21   11/11/2013 at 18:03 (3,817 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)   |   | |
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Glad to hear it's now home with you. As you probably know, it's based on the original GE 30" range, that was introduced in '57. I like this style with the inset doors better than the models where the door overlaid the cabinet. |
Post# 714688 , Reply# 22   11/11/2013 at 18:37 (3,817 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Were discontinued by UL decree before the end of 1974, even though very convenient they were considered a hazard if a cord was draped over a hot heating element or burner. This was the type of UL regulation that appliance manufacturers welcomed because it saved them MONEY and there was no competitive disadvantage in one company trying to save money by dropping a feature because everyone had to do it.
At the same time the push-to-turn control knobs for surface burners were also mandated by UL, this is when the push-button burner controls that GE and HP had used forever also disappeared, because the requirement said [ it must take TWO different movements to turn on a surface burner ] so GE chose not to brother to redesign the PB switches to require two different motions to use them.
Sandy the nice knobs your range uses were much lighter in color on ranges built in the late 60s-the early 1970s and they did tend to fade and the writing wear off even more as they were used. The knob you pictured with the darker brown background was a later but completely compatible knob.
You had me going when you said the selector knob said rotisserie on it as I knew that that was wrong for your range and the thermostat knob should not have the word rotisserie on it either. GE did make both style knobs, so it may have even been a factory mistake.
Sandy if you have any problems finding knobs for this range I should have them as we have BOXES full of GE range knobs. |
Post# 714705 , Reply# 23   11/11/2013 at 19:24 (3,817 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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I'm going to get to do a first cleaning and a first powering-up on Wednesday, which will probably give me a good idea of what I'm going to need. I am a little antsy about the Sensi-Temp burner, just because it is a Sensi-Temp burner. If the crud in the burner bowl is any indication, it works just fine.
I can definitely say a set of knobs is going to be needed. These are so bleached out that I have to use a flashlight and my reading glasses for them. Thanks to everyone for the encouragement. I cannot wait until I can use this range for some goodies I sorely miss, like meatloaf and ribs. Too spattery and messy for a non self-cleaner, so I've foregone them these last four years. I detest oven cleaning more than any other household chore, yet I hate a dirty oven. My solution has been just not to mess the damned thing up. I'll be glad when that's over! |
Post# 714810 , Reply# 25   11/12/2013 at 06:38 (3,817 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 714815 , Reply# 26   11/12/2013 at 07:38 (3,817 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Of an early GE P-7 oven, are you going to show the after SC picture ? if it is working properly it should completely clean that oven.
Sandy I could not agree more about not having a SC oven, it just takes the fun out of cooking. I have 8 SC ovens in the three homes I send my time in and 4 of these ovens get the great majority of the use, all four of these ovens are quite dirty now and since cooler weather is here now all will gets cleaned in the next month or so.
They all get cleaned about once a year, always when the weather is cool and immediately after they are used so the oven is already hot to save a little power and stress on the oven liner.
While there is no diffident interval recommended to run the clean cycle it is up to the user to decide, I have always been very happy to use the feature just when really needed as the high temperature clean cycle does take a toll on the oven liner and racks.
Happy Cooking John L. |
Post# 714891 , Reply# 28   11/12/2013 at 16:13 (3,816 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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SOOOO careful not to spill stuff in the oven!!!LOL! |
Post# 714931 , Reply# 29   11/12/2013 at 18:56 (3,816 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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Post# 714936 , Reply# 30   11/12/2013 at 19:29 (3,816 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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....On the cleaning this afternoon. She's dirtier than she looks, but that's the way of it with vintage appliances. It's mostly accumulation under, around and behind details. For instance, the oven door handle looked pristine in place, but a look at its underside was like - Oh. My. God.
I am definitely not complaining! Nice to have something worth working on. I well remember when I had to clean the BOL POS I have - I went through all that knowing full well that a clean POS was still going to be a POS when I was through. This new range is worth the effort. And once again, I'm enormously taken by how well she's built. I don't think a new Hyundai has this much metal in it! Tomorrow is a day off, so I'm hoping for huge progress - as in powering 'er up and puttin' 'er through some paces. |
Post# 714954 , Reply# 31   11/12/2013 at 20:25 (3,816 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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I'm sure it's not a real problem, but I've had my first "WTF?" moment with the range.
I removed the oven door handle to clean under it and to clean the Bakelite spacer behind it. When I did so, the oven door wouldn't go back together properly. Investigation showed that the door would have to come off its hinges to be properly reassembled. The door hinges LOOK like the current lift-off type, but they are not; there is a screw in each holding the door in place on them. I removed the screws, lifted the door, and - uh, boy. Two little spring clips fell out of the bottom edge of the door; they are obviously what holds the screws in place when the door is fastened on the hinges. Both clips are intact and present, but I have less than NO idea how to re-insert them. I was able to figure out how the door went back together, in spite of more little spacers than you can shake a stick at. In a moment evidently lost to history, GE must have been the first inter-species employer, offering trained octopi gainful employment - you need eight hands to hold everything in alignment as you re-assemble. Anyway, can anyone reveal the mystery of those two spring clips for the hinges? John maybe? |
Post# 715032 , Reply# 32   11/13/2013 at 06:38 (3,816 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Post# 715039 , Reply# 33   11/13/2013 at 07:17 (3,816 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Sandy are these the two little curved spring steel like clips? if that is what we are talking about they assemble near the bottom of the slot in the door where the door slides onto the hinges, they improve the fit and aliment of the door when installed.
Anyway I don't know if I am helping much here, when I go over to the warehouse around noon I will look at a similar range we have and I will probably be better able to describe how to reinstall the clips, but basically they clip up into the bottom of the hinge brackets. |
Post# 715046 , Reply# 34   11/13/2013 at 09:12 (3,816 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Yep, they're two little curved clips. I am going to look at them again after a night's sleep (yesterday was a hard day at work and I really shouldn't have been working on the range last night), with your description in mind.
She's a very nice range, but she's a very complicated one! P.S.: Tim, I was hoping to avoid giving that impression that something awful was wrong - Astro's "Ruh-Roh!" was my attempt to keep it light. Sorry if I scared you. I'm sure there will be some, shall we say, adventurous moments along the way to Range Nirvana? I'm just trying to treat it all as a journey and not stress. This post was last edited 11/13/2013 at 09:42 |
Post# 715053 , Reply# 35   11/13/2013 at 10:24 (3,815 days old) by AtomicT (Middletown, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 715071 , Reply# 36   11/13/2013 at 13:02 (3,815 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Post# 715088 , Reply# 37   11/13/2013 at 13:51 (3,815 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Well, I've spent about five hours on her so far today, and strides have been made.
Her backguard and cook top are clean. The drip recesses under the burner bowls are cleaned out (such fun!) and the oven vent deflector, which had been out of position, is clean and back where it belongs. The news is mixed on her trim rings and burner bowls. The trim rings are better, but they have rust in places, which means I'll want to replace them. The bowls are much, much better, but there is still carbonized grease in crevices underneath them, which means another pass, another time. They look great from the top. These are not getting replaced, because they're original aluminum bowls; today's replacements are that cheap, thin chrome. I like a burner bowl I can scour vigorously if need be. Some tape residue that was on the backguard also came off cleanly; her "Sensi-Temp" logo now shines proudly. As I worked, I felt the range was telling me the story of its previous ownership. I could tell that for a long time, she was cared for, quite well. I could also tell that the care stopped at some point, perhaps a few years ago. Most things were reasonably clean, but the Sensi-Temp burner was pretty bad, and none of the burner bowls had been Brillo-ed for a while. I get the feeling that a woman prized this range for a long time, and then after she died, her surviving husband just used it bachelor-fashion, maybe wiping it down after use, but certainly not worrying about the finer points of cleaning. Anyway, she's getting better. Hope to power her up tonight. Pray. |
Post# 715089 , Reply# 38   11/13/2013 at 13:51 (3,815 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO)   |   | |
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...is now vacant. This is where the range was held in safety until her travels to Waterloo, IA - at Tim's garage. Sorry it took me so long to get the pics uploaded. |
Post# 715090 , Reply# 39   11/13/2013 at 13:55 (3,815 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO)   |   | |
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Settling in for a comfortable ride - with friends! |
Post# 715094 , Reply# 40   11/13/2013 at 14:10 (3,815 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO)   |   | |
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...Tim & Bev who kept me safe until I could travel to my permanent home. |
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Post# 715099 , Reply# 42   11/13/2013 at 14:21 (3,815 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO)   |   | |
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who treated me very kindly, even though they're of a different lineage. |
Post# 715101 , Reply# 43   11/13/2013 at 14:23 (3,815 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Post# 715107 , Reply# 45   11/13/2013 at 14:51 (3,815 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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She's powered up and things are looking very good indeed!
The backguard light works, the oven light works, the clock/timer is working, and I'm getting heat from the Sensi-Temp burner! The latch/unlatch for the P*7 is working, too. I will not be testing the P*7 until some more cleaning is done in the oven cavity and the hinge clip issue is resolved. But, hey - cowabunga! Can Tim pick 'em or can Tim pick 'em? UPDATE: The Coil Select function is also working - I can have a 4", 6" or 8" coil area heated on the Sensi-Temp burner (right front). Testing of the Sensi-Temp function is taking place right now, with a pan of water and the thermostat set at 250F. Once the water boils, I'll crank 'er down a bit and see if she holds a simmer. This post was last edited 11/13/2013 at 15:18 |
Post# 715119 , Reply# 46   11/13/2013 at 15:50 (3,815 days old) by deeptub (Carbondale, IL)   |   | |
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Post# 715131 , Reply# 47   11/13/2013 at 16:43 (3,815 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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"....aren't these the drip bowls that GE advertised as cleanable in the P*7 oven?"
That might be. The bowls were rough and dark, which could indicate cleaning in the oven. However, the 900F temp of pyrolitic self-cleaning is way up there for aluminum, which has a melting point just over 1200F. I'm not sure that would be good for the bowls. Anyway, I personally won't be doing that. I like shiny burner bowls; they reflect heat better and they look much nicer. I like nicely Brillo-ed aluminum; it always looks so Suzy Homemaker, LOL. I know someone with a brand-new GE self-cleaner (the "P*7" trademark is, sadly, nowhere to be seen on it), and that range has porcelain-coated one-piece burner bowls and porcelain-coated oven racks; a cleaning cycle doesn't affect their appearance. That's a change that makes sense. The trade-off is losing some of the chrome-y goodness of older units. Latest news flash: The Sensi-Temp burner is working, so far as I can tell! And P.S.: That photo of the range's transport made me giggle. I certainly didn't move here in such spacious comfort! |
Post# 715136 , Reply# 48   11/13/2013 at 17:08 (3,815 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)   |   | |
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Congratulations! I know how you feel!!! |
Post# 715139 , Reply# 49   11/13/2013 at 17:13 (3,815 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Post# 715147 , Reply# 50   11/13/2013 at 18:05 (3,815 days old) by rustyspaatz ()   |   | |
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Sounds more like you've been to a rave, but your end result is legal. |
Post# 715148 , Reply# 51   11/13/2013 at 18:07 (3,815 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Post# 715154 , Reply# 52   11/13/2013 at 18:35 (3,815 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Post# 715164 , Reply# 53   11/13/2013 at 19:10 (3,815 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Post# 715184 , Reply# 54   11/13/2013 at 20:06 (3,815 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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The aluminum burner bowls are meant to be cleaned in the P-7 oven and it will not melt them, after cleaning you can still polish if you want really shinny bowls.
I like the aluminum bowls for originality and chrome or shinny bowls do slightly do improve the burners heating speed and efficiency, but for my heavy cooking use coupled with my desire not to have to clean the burner bowls every few days I always install the dark GE porcelain burner bowls with the separate chrome trim rings on any range I have to maintain.
Sandy if you need a set of genuine GE porcelain bowls and rings let me know, we have lots of them, unfortunately GE discontinued the aluminum bowls all together.
Glad your Sensi-temp burner seems to be working, GE had one of the most user friendly automatic burners too use if you remember to use the boil settings when cooking with water in a pan and if using a skillet or the griddle you use the temperature settings 150-500F. |
Post# 715186 , Reply# 55   11/13/2013 at 20:16 (3,815 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Bowls turn up once in a while, I have seen them new in the wrapping at several old appliance stores, I never liked them, and always covered them with foil, I sure like that range, it looks great. |
Post# 715193 , Reply# 56   11/13/2013 at 20:59 (3,815 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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I'm very relieved about the Sensi-Temp unit; it is not cheap to repair, as you know.
I am going to need both a set of knobs and a set of burner rings. The burner bowls are going to get more work; they'll come completely clean with sufficient effort, trust me. I also have to re-do the paint fill on the "Cook" and "Clean" indicia on the Bakelite spacer behind the oven door handle; the old paint just came away when the spacer was cleaned. It's an easy task, just a little Testor's PLA and a paint brush, with some mineral spirits to wipe away any excess. This weekend will be detailing the oven and putting her through her paces. I'm hoping she's in the same good shape everything else is. After that will come the first official photo! P.S.: If you could shed any light on the installation of those ding-blasted oven door hinge clips, I'd be grateful. |
Post# 715246 , Reply# 57   11/14/2013 at 01:08 (3,815 days old) by rustyspaatz ()   |   | |
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Don't forget the masking tape before painting. For nice, crisp lines. |
Post# 715310 , Reply# 58   11/14/2013 at 10:27 (3,814 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)   |   | |
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Thanks for the reminder about the 'Boil' settings on the Sensi-Temp. I had forgotten about them and recently did a boil-water experiment myself, with not-what-I-was-hoping-for results. Today, based on your reminder, I used the 'Low Boil' indication and was much happier with the results! I'm guessing that the dial contains two sets of calibrations, with the 'Boil' section having greater control of the temperature?
Anyway - thanks again for pointing out that feature!
lawrence |
Post# 715459 , Reply# 59   11/15/2013 at 05:48 (3,814 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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John:
I found the answer on the aluminum burner bowls. This is from the 1966 P*7 Use & Care Guide that is downloadable from Automatic Ephemera, on Page 6, in the section beginning "Parts of the Range which may be cleaned during P*7 automatic cleaning." The underscore is added: "b. Aluminum reflector pans found under surface units. Wipe off boilovers not stuck to pans. Place pans upside down on shelf at Position C. Some kinds of soil may require more than 2 hours to remove. See cleaning chart in Care Section for other ways of cleaning reflector pans. Also see heat settings on Surface Cooking Chart to prevent boilovers. Aluminum reflector pans cleaned automatically may soften and change in color. Replacements can be purchased, if desired from your GE dealer." So, it seems the P*7 cleaning temp was known to have an effect on the pans. BTW, the P*7 Use and Care Guide covers the TOL 40-incher and the TOL 30-incher of 1966. The 30-incher shown is quite similar to the range I now own, so I got a trove of info that I can use until the frabjous day the exact manual for my range turns up. This makes about the fourth time that Automatic Ephemera has been able to supply a HTF manual, or something close to it, for a new vintage appliance in my house. |
Post# 715477 , Reply# 60   11/15/2013 at 07:59 (3,814 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Post# 715668 , Reply# 61   11/16/2013 at 08:39 (3,813 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)   |   | |
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These appear to be aluminum - could serve as attic stock.....
lawrence CLICK HERE TO GO TO pulltostart's LINK on eBay |
Post# 715678 , Reply# 62   11/16/2013 at 10:28 (3,812 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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I may go ahead and buy these burner bowls, even though I'd love to find a complete set of NOS ones. That will be a bit tricky for this range - it has two 6" burners and two 8" ones, one of which is the Sensi-Temp burner, which uses a unique burner bowl, not the same one ordinary 8" burners do.
I'm making all kinds of progress. I had a very kind PM from John L. (combo52) offering a photo of the "mystery" oven door hinge clips mentioned upthread. John and I had a great conversation, and he texted me two photos that cleared things up beautifully. John, I myself can't get those pics to post here; if you ever have time and inclination to share them here, I think they would be a valuable resource for the Archives. The oven door hinge clips are intended to improve and tighten the fit of the door on the hinges, so it was important to me to get them back in properly, which they now are. Thanks, John! I am working on details now. One of them is trying to find the clip John mentioned for the wires to the Sensi-Temp burner. He says it's the the right of the right-rear 6" burner bowl, and I cannot find it. As matters stand, the wires are laying atop the deflector for the oven vent, which cannot continue, because that area would get very hot during P*7 cleaning. If anyone can steer me in the right direction on the clip, I'd be grateful - I just can't find anything like that. Maybe it's a removable clip and it's missing, I dunno. Anyway, she's getting a little better each work session, and I'm hoping to be able to test the oven this weekend. After that, she sits for her portrait! |
Post# 715743 , Reply# 63   11/16/2013 at 18:06 (3,812 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Well, she passed an initial oven test - both her bake and broil elements work fine.
After that, she got put into P*7 mode - and she works! Results were not quiiiiite as sensational as I'd hoped for, but then I only ran a two-hour cycle. Every self-cleaner make and model has its own personality, and I will have to learn what this old girl likes and doesn't like. Still, she made a valiant effort, which means that after forty-one years, she came to me with every single one of her features intact and working. They truly do not make them like this any more! Pictures soon. But not tonight - Sandy tired. There was a small matter of four loads of laundry to be washed and ironed in addition to Project P*7. Oy. P.S.: Does anyone know the correct griddle that would have come with - or been available for - this 1972 model? This post was last edited 11/16/2013 at 18:52 |
Post# 715819 , Reply# 64   11/17/2013 at 07:18 (3,812 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Post# 715873 , Reply# 67   11/17/2013 at 15:50 (3,811 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Post# 715881 , Reply# 68   11/17/2013 at 16:29 (3,811 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Post# 715897 , Reply# 69   11/17/2013 at 17:58 (3,811 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 715903 , Reply# 71   11/17/2013 at 18:18 (3,811 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Post# 715908 , Reply# 72   11/17/2013 at 18:27 (3,811 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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John:
It was a huge privilege meeting you! The range has meant a remarkable improvement in quality of life. I now have coffee automatically in the morning - not a given for perc users like me. I now have light to cook by - the old range's cooktop was always dark. The self-cleaning means no more thinking, "I'd like so-and-so, but nah - I'm not wanting to do the clean-up." And the Sensi-Temp has already saved one boilover when a long-winded co-worker kept me on the phone long past the conversation's sell-by date - I had totally forgotten about soup on the burner. No harm done whatever. And if you're using the P*7 cycle, you definitely don't need to run the furnace, LOL! |