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Post# 109064   2/11/2006 at 11:00 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Selling my house and moving.

Giving mom my Frid-Ge-More front-loader.

She is putting aside for me her 24" wide 1985 Kemnore DD with dual-action agitator.

It has never been repaired.





Post# 109065 , Reply# 1   2/11/2006 at 11:03 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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Taking to my aparmtent my circa 1990 GE Filter-flo.


See my dryer to the left of it?
(Yes it IS a rack, but as the child of an immigrant I am alllowed. LOL)


Post# 109066 , Reply# 2   2/11/2006 at 11:05 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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So I bought this for $320 to leave in the house.
(It matches the gas dryer).

[Looks over shoulder to check for bridal shower..LOL]


Post# 109067 , Reply# 3   2/11/2006 at 11:07 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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I've got a couple of BIG loads to handle ...

So let's get to it!


Post# 109068 , Reply# 4   2/11/2006 at 11:08 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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Close-ups of new toy.

Post# 109069 , Reply# 5   2/11/2006 at 11:10 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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Close-up of new toy.


Wanted H-W-C on a selector switch, not on timer dial
and don't G-A-S about a dual-action agitator. Won't be nmine for long.

Wanted the appearance of two speeds. Casual cycle has pulse/pause agitation.


Post# 109070 , Reply# 6   2/11/2006 at 11:12 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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Close-ups of new toy


Water-level and temperature selector switches.
(If only it was a Toggleswitch!)


Post# 109071 , Reply# 7   2/11/2006 at 11:13 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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Close-up of new toy.


Normal cycle and "gentle" (causals) cycle. Just enough.


Post# 109072 , Reply# 8   2/11/2006 at 11:16 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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Close-ups of new toy.

That is one big-@$$ tub. I think it said 3.2 cubic feet.

The agitiator appears to be one base for both dual-action (corkscrew) and this "straight-vane" type. The upper piece on this low-end thingy appears to be screwed to the fin-base.


Post# 109073 , Reply# 9   2/11/2006 at 11:19 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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Close-up of new toy.


The lid hinges appear top be an older design re-visited.
PANATHEMA SE (Pan-anathema to you)magnetic lid switch, CURSES!

The hole for the older style lid-switch plunger is still made in the lid!


Post# 109074 , Reply# 10   2/11/2006 at 11:22 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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Close up of new toy.


She's on her maiden voayage.
(Did i just hear a cherry soda-pop?)

Saturday is sheets day.

HMM NO ATC (Automatic temperature control.)


Post# 109075 , Reply# 11   2/11/2006 at 11:24 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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Add some phosphated VIVA (Con Perlas Activas) courtesy of Ross in Tucson. AZ

(HA! no eco-Bolsheviks allowed in here!)


Post# 109077 , Reply# 12   2/11/2006 at 11:27 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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and we get a clean-clean wash and a suds cake to boot.

GD magnetic lid switch.
Had to crank the lid open an inch and sneek a peek.
at my age sneeking apeek. HA!

NO SPRAY RINSE AT ALL. :-(

The drain hose is supposed to be shoved into the stand-pipe.
HEre it is in the slop-sonkl for now. Story of my life the new one is two inches shorter than the old one. *SIGH*


Post# 109079 , Reply# 13   2/11/2006 at 11:30 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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close-ups of new toy

Offending lid switch.


Machine will not agitate or spin with lid up (FOR NOW!)
Will fill and drain.

The draining is via is a separate motor.
Neutral drain(water pumped out out first, then clothes spun).


Post# 109080 , Reply# 14   2/11/2006 at 11:32 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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Close-up of new toy.


Other half of switch.
This is the enclosed magnet that triggers the contacts.


Post# 109082 , Reply# 15   2/11/2006 at 11:34 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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Close-up of new toy.

Washed, spun and ready for dryer.


Post# 109083 , Reply# 16   2/11/2006 at 11:37 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Post# 109084 , Reply# 17   2/11/2006 at 11:39 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
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Users' Manual- downlaodabel PDF. File

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Post# 109095 , Reply# 18   2/11/2006 at 13:52 (4,299 days old) by askomiele (belgium)        

no spray rinses??
how many times the washer rinses the clothes?
only once???


Post# 109099 , Reply# 19   2/11/2006 at 14:18 (4,299 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Not even a spray rinse after the rinse? Gee, my Shredmore at least does that. I hate not having spray rinse(s) between the wash and deep rinse.

Post# 109102 , Reply# 20   2/11/2006 at 14:51 (4,299 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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One rinse only
But it rinses with 25 gallons of water (100 litres).

IIRC, a front-loader uses about 4 gallons (two buckets full) per rinse or 16 litres. Even with three rinses ( 12 gallons or 48 litres) the top-loader rinses better!



Post# 109103 , Reply# 21   2/11/2006 at 14:54 (4,299 days old) by westytoploader ()        

As much as I loathe the plastic GE's, the straight-vane equipped machines are pretty cool. My grandmother has a circa-1995 plastic Hotpoint with this agitator; I've put water in it but haven't seen it washing clothes (yet)...my guess is that it would be similar to a DD Kenmore with a straight-vane even though the stroke is a tad bit slower. That one is also a TRUE 2-speed machine; not sure why GE later switched to the "pulse" agitation for Gentle. I have to admit that the tub is quite big and can handle a Bob-load with ease; when we got OUR plastic GE set in 1996 (with the DA clone), I remember Mom being impressed with how much she could put in. With a wonderful new addition to the family (my sister, who was born a year earlier on Groundhog Day 1995), the White-Westinghouse TL's tub became small VERY FAST and we needed something that could handle all of the crib bedding and burp cloths we threw at it!

That particular GE lasted only 2 years, when we moved and it developed a pronounced tub index! I'm thinking that my dad might have dropped it down the stairs while moving it (and didn't say anything...).

Steve, I dare you to do a spin-drain with this machine or fill it beyond the top row of holes!! With that stupid overflow tube, you'll be mopping up water...

--Austin


Post# 109105 , Reply# 22   2/11/2006 at 14:56 (4,299 days old) by westytoploader ()        

I also forgot to mention that ours was MOL, with 3 temperature combinations (OY), 4 water levels, and a separate wash/spin speed dial. It also had 4 or 5 separate cycle settings I believe.

Post# 109114 , Reply# 23   2/11/2006 at 16:07 (4,299 days old) by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        

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Decent washer to leave behind I think. And it seems to match the dryer which looks good when you sell the house. Thanks for the pictures.

Post# 109119 , Reply# 24   2/11/2006 at 17:10 (4,299 days old) by lavamat_jon (-)        

IIRC, a front-loader uses about 4 gallons (two buckets full) per rinse or 16 litres. Even with three rinses ( 12 gallons or 48 litres) the top-loader rinses better!

But through the process of dilution, it can be proven that a multiple-rinsing frontloader using less water can actually rinse better than a toploader that uses more water but rinses only once through a simple experiment - dilution of detergent (and of any solution, really) is more effective with multiple rinses, even with less water, than with the amount of water used. Take a glass, fill it 1/5 full with a coloured liquid to represent the detergent residue in the load of washed laundry (such as milk, fruit juice, or a fizzy drink), then fill the rest of the glass up with water. Leave this glass at that. Now take another glass, again fill it up a fifth with the same coloured liquid, but this time only top up the glass with water by another 1/5 so that the glass is 2/5 full. Tip out a 1/2 of this solution, refill the glass again so that it is 2/5 full, tip out a half of that solution, top up again with water until the glass is 2/5 full. Even though you've used considerably less water, the solution that has been diluted several times using less water should be weaker than the first solution that has been diluted only once. Teamed with high speed interim spins, this is exactly how frontloaders can rinse with relatively little water. As much as this is difficult to believe (even I was skeptical at first with the lower level rinses), the lower level rinses do rinse surprisingly well and much better than at least a modern TL with one deep rinse. However, one thing can still be said that shallow rinses just aren't as dramatic & exciting to watch as deeper rinses :-)

But, in conclusion, I always get clear rinse water by the 2nd rinse even though I've used a fraction of the water that needs to be used in a TL.

Jon


Post# 109120 , Reply# 25   2/11/2006 at 17:13 (4,299 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
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Toggle, did you buy this washer and dryer at Sam's Club, that's the only place I have seen them here. Also, what is with the strange plumbing in the backgroud, why a trap Above the sinks?

Post# 109137 , Reply# 26   2/11/2006 at 18:11 (4,298 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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1) My sister has this same (new) GE washer.

2) You and I have the same Frigidaire FL washer.

Good luck with your move, Toggle! Be sure to take pics for your biography. And thanks for all the above pics, as well.


Post# 109184 , Reply# 27   2/11/2006 at 22:24 (4,298 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Austn-
Spin-drain? How?
Overflow tube? OY-VEY!

Thank you Jon-
But launderess says more water rinses better. That suffices for me AND it appeals to my sense of order and logic in the world --wink--

NeptuneBob-
NOPE not Sam's club. We have a retailer called P.C.Richard- best prices and decent selection.

Trap above sink- The house's main sewer line runs ABOVE the washer's rear control panel (40 inches / 1 metre off the floor). A pump pushes water from the slop-sink UP to the trap, and then falls into the main sewer pipe


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Post# 109240 , Reply# 28   2/12/2006 at 06:11 (4,298 days old) by westyslantfront (Tucson, Arizona)        

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Hi Steve. GE looks interesting with one piece agitator. I think machine also has neutral drain before spinning. I have also heard that they don't last longer than 7 or 8 years.


Ross


Post# 109265 , Reply# 29   2/12/2006 at 08:28 (4,298 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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HMMMM! I believe that...........

Post# 109273 , Reply# 30   2/12/2006 at 09:19 (4,298 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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lavamat_jon, I totally agree with you about the effectivity of multiple rinses vs. one massive deep rinse. But you keep forgetting one important thing: WE'RE AMERICANS. We don't let science get in the way of our personal beliefs, LOL!

:)


Post# 109309 , Reply# 31   2/12/2006 at 11:42 (4,298 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Actually speaking of fact versus personal beliefs.... I hear rumors that the Metric system is catching on a little bit.

Don't tell our gov't that..They may have to do something USEFUL and convert us over!

I mean the English have made the English system of measurement and temperatures secondary to the Metric system. Does that tell us anything?


Post# 109341 , Reply# 32   2/12/2006 at 13:58 (4,298 days old) by zzzzz ()        

Unless the "magnetic" lid switch uses some type of tamper-resistant technology, couldn't you get an ordinary magnet (say a magnetic parts retrieval tool) and place it over the switch to cheat the interlock?

Post# 109342 , Reply# 33   2/12/2006 at 14:01 (4,298 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        
Agitator

Steve, Nice machine. So, that is not a dual action agitator? How did the wash come out?

Post# 109345 , Reply# 34   2/12/2006 at 14:13 (4,298 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
zzzzz

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Arc lamp-

That is the plan!


Post# 109346 , Reply# 35   2/12/2006 at 14:16 (4,298 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Cant Complain

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Hi Steve

Looks a fine set to leave, shouldnt be any issues with those..

Love those flayed spray flumes, those modern machines are great to use for people like us not used to them, I used Scotts TOL Kenmores in his last house and was impressed with them..

Cheers, Mike

p.s. you cant blame the english for changing to metric, its been forced on us by The European Commission for Standardisation....we call it bastardisation, and some of our market sellers have actually been imprisoned for not following the directive. How draconian is that!!!


Post# 109353 , Reply# 36   2/12/2006 at 16:01 (4,298 days old) by lavamat_jon (-)        

The European Commission for Standardisation....we call it bastardisation

Too true, Mike, too true!!


Post# 109361 , Reply# 37   2/12/2006 at 17:33 (4,298 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        
We became metric in 74

And I have no idea how people managed with measuring system that wasnt based on any standard number of units.

Post# 109376 , Reply# 38   2/12/2006 at 19:32 (4,297 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: GE Models:

Hey! Toggles, what Model Numbers are the GE Washer and Gas Dryer, your leaving with the house?

Is the Washer fairly Quiet, does it Wash/Rinse well, considering no Spray Rinses? Why no Fabric Softener Dispenser on the top of the Agitator, could someone buy one optional? I personally like using the Downey Ball in Top-Loaders, after Resetting for extra Rinses, when original Cycles are complete. That is one way to make sure that the original Fabric Softener Dispenser on the Washer stays nice looking and clean...

Peace and Happy GE Laundrying, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 109394 , Reply# 39   2/12/2006 at 20:44 (4,297 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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How the heck does that GE washer wring out the clothes well enough with such sparse and vastly spaced holes?

Post# 109404 , Reply# 40   2/12/2006 at 21:18 (4,297 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Can't have too many holes in plastic!

If there is not a hole where it needs to be, the water will travel UP till it finds one hence the staggered pattern of the holes.

Remember there were machines with non-perforated tubs. IMHO not a factor as to spin-dry effectiveness.


Post# 109458 , Reply# 41   2/13/2006 at 07:38 (4,297 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Let me have a peek....


I'm gonna pry that front panel off and get a pic for y'all!
STAY TUNED!

Same bet time, same bat station!


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Post# 109486 , Reply# 42   2/13/2006 at 11:35 (4,297 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Steve:

GEŽ 3.2 Cu. Ft. Super Capacity WasherModel#: WDSR2080DWW


Post# 109489 , Reply# 43   2/13/2006 at 11:45 (4,297 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Steve:

GEŽ Extra-Large 6.0 Cu. Ft. Capacity Gas Dryer
Model#: DWXR483GBWW

I think this is my dryer.
Mine has a SS Drum.

(doing this from my job.)


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Post# 109515 , Reply# 44   2/13/2006 at 13:25 (4,297 days old) by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        

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It looks like the stainless steel drum is only available on the 7.0 Cu. Ft models.

Is yours perhaps the DRSR483GDWW?



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Post# 109530 , Reply# 45   2/13/2006 at 14:25 (4,297 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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YAH, Thank You.

Welcome to America, where bigger is better.


Post# 109555 , Reply# 46   2/13/2006 at 17:34 (4,297 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Hose Extension

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Went to Homo Depot and got me a hose extension!
and some magic magnet to bypass the lid switch

The washer drain hose does need to go into the stand-pipe thereby bypassing the slop-sink and the required pump for that sink.

Of course, it is easier than it sounds


Post# 109556 , Reply# 47   2/13/2006 at 17:36 (4,297 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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It leasks, natch!
Surgery of that magnitude usually has some complications.

Methinks i need to clamp each piece of rubber/plastic to a piece of metal pipe rather than to each-other.


Post# 109557 , Reply# 48   2/13/2006 at 17:40 (4,297 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Tested it with a *SMALL* Water level, as seen in pic.
Leaks like a sieve - *SIGH*

*LARGE* setting (actually a medium fill) goes to third row of holes from top.

*SUPER* setting goes to top row of holes.


Post# 109559 , Reply# 49   2/13/2006 at 17:53 (4,297 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Magnets to bypass lid switch.

Believe it or not this was taken while spinning!

Smart little manufacturers, you need TWO magnets to do the trick (or i'm an idiot!)


Post# 109560 , Reply# 50   2/13/2006 at 17:56 (4,297 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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OK I think I have posted WAY too much.

First time the washer is cheesy and the dryer is nice for me!

TA TA for now!



Post# 109561 , Reply# 51   2/13/2006 at 18:04 (4,296 days old) by westytoploader ()        
Wait....

How about some action shots of the next load?? ;-)

Post# 109566 , Reply# 52   2/13/2006 at 18:17 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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I'll try.

But the camera freezes the spin.
How can I get videos I make posted?


Post# 109567 , Reply# 53   2/13/2006 at 18:18 (4,296 days old) by agiflow ()        

Yeah guy...what about those action shots!

Post# 109573 , Reply# 54   2/13/2006 at 18:33 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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well let's see if I can clear a day (to have a wash-in) with her highness Madame X.

If so come on down~~~~~ NY, NJ, CT, PA, MA, etc!
*We'll have the classic GE Filter-flo
*The new GE plastique mess,
*The Frid-Ge-More, it it has not flown the coupe to go to Yiayia Bubble's (grandma's) house.
* The EASY table-top washer is also still here....


Post# 109574 , Reply# 55   2/13/2006 at 18:46 (4,296 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Let's see...first it was Madame Kurva...then Queen Cloaca, now Madame X.

I have a new name suggestion--since one of your favorite sayings is "Who luvs ya baby?", instead of Kojak, you could be Bojack!

LOL...be sure to include pics so us Southerners can participate vicariously! ;-)


Post# 109585 , Reply# 56   2/13/2006 at 19:18 (4,296 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
looks over shoulder; begs for shower

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Toggledeedee and Toggledeedoo
Easy Spin has a present for you

An aqua, Jet-Swirl GE fabric softener dispenser
Nice and clean, but from an old model that fits over a wide agi cap

When settled and ready for accessories, I'll send it to you.

Someone else wanted a mini-basket--have it
Again, old, for a three-vane wide-capped agi, plus matching filter-flo
Let me know


Post# 109586 , Reply# 57   2/13/2006 at 19:20 (4,296 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: Magnet to Bi-Pass Switch:

What if you use only 1-Magnet and place it in the opposite direction, centered on the Magnetic Rubber Cover, would that allow you to only need 1-Magnet to have the Washer operate with the Lid Opened?

Fun Times with a GE Wash-A-Matic {LOL}, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 109587 , Reply# 58   2/13/2006 at 19:22 (4,296 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: Magnet to Bi-Pass Switch:

What if you use only 1-Magnet and place it in the opposite direction, centered on the Magnetic Rubber Cover, would that allow you to only need 1-Magnet to have the Washer operate with the Lid Opened?

Fun Times with a GE Wash-A-Matic {LOL}, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 109589 , Reply# 59   2/13/2006 at 19:24 (4,296 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: Sorry Robert:

I was having problems with my Thread to send for Posting.

Gracious Apology, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 109594 , Reply# 60   2/13/2006 at 19:44 (4,296 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
new home

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You'll have to send me your new address

Post# 109604 , Reply# 61   2/13/2006 at 20:08 (4,296 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: Nick-Name for Toggles:

How about calling Steve "Toggles" Mr. Bojangles...

I've always liked that Title Name, because of my liking the Song and we used to have a Bar here that was named Bojangles, but it finally closed down and has become a Restaurant/Bar, but I've not checked it out yet, so I'm not sure about the Clientelle {sp} that is going there.

Peace and Fun Nick-Name Suggesting, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 109610 , Reply# 62   2/13/2006 at 20:19 (4,296 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Bear

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It was an amazing song--haunting melody.

Do you remember what it was about?

Cool nickname

mikey


Post# 109622 , Reply# 63   2/13/2006 at 21:31 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Drop your pants baby!

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Toggles wants a looksie

Post# 109624 , Reply# 64   2/13/2006 at 21:34 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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guts and glory

Post# 109628 , Reply# 65   2/13/2006 at 21:36 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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guts and glory

Post# 109630 , Reply# 66   2/13/2006 at 21:41 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Guts and Glory

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DRAIN PUMP MOTOR:
HANNING
Elektro-Werke

Rated:
15 mins. ON
45 mins. OFF

Manufactured
07-Oct-05

Notice the drain pump outlet is a rectangular pipe; something akin to a crevice-tool brush (SHUT UP YOU!)


Post# 109631 , Reply# 67   2/13/2006 at 21:43 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Guts and Glory

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Drain pump, motor and discharge tube.

Post# 109633 , Reply# 68   2/13/2006 at 21:47 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Guts and glory

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I wanna see a tranny in action!

And there it is behind the motor (which is not too well in focus).

That is one darn SMALL tranny.

Notice the undeside of the outer tub!


Post# 109634 , Reply# 69   2/13/2006 at 21:49 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Guts and glory

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Bottom of motor
pulley
belt
corrugated macnine base.


Post# 109636 , Reply# 70   2/13/2006 at 21:54 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Guts and glory

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top left => Bleach dispenser receptacle and tub feed into this.

Yellow=> Suspension moun.

Metal splash-shield /motor guard (above motor)

and the motor, of course.


Post# 109638 , Reply# 71   2/13/2006 at 21:59 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
guts and glory

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overflow tube
and drain hole in machine base.

and that make for a very fun ending dont it? LOL

Thanks for riding this tourbus bus.
Pay as you get on and definitley before you get off!


Post# 109662 , Reply# 72   2/13/2006 at 23:20 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Thanks boys and girly boys.
I feel so luved *SNIFF*

Anyhoo by Madame X I meant "The Ex" LOL.

I will re-read this tomorow to respond to everyone.
I have had a HELL of an expensive day.

Car batery => dead.
Needed tires => no traction (they had 60k miles on them).

Was posting pics earlier and the computer monitor started getting funky. Then two LOUD POPS and crackling-- it was nearly 10 years of age. *SIGH* It was about to catch fire.

So here I sit in front of a very well-deserved, yet rather pricey 19" flat-panel monitor. Screw it. If you have to be broke, be broke BIG time.

All kiding aside-- it is tolerable due to all the love from you guys. No joke.

Ya know- I don't mind skidmarks on my drawers; soap, water bleach, and phospates and it's gone. Skidmarks on the credit card take MUCH longer to eradicate. --WINK--


Austin: since you a youngin' ~~that was from the days of the imprinter that would trace the cc number onto a receipt with carbon-paper copies. I refuse to explain carbon-paper. Venus would know. *LOL* Goodnight all.





Post# 109689 , Reply# 73   2/14/2006 at 03:29 (4,296 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: New GE Washer Agitation:

Hey! Steve, I'm curious to know as possibly with some others, does this new GE Washer's Tub turn Indexing, during the Agitation? It sounds like they do in the Specs of them in the GE Web-Site. It seems like a few of the newer Brands are doing that now, following the Westinghouse Top-Load and the WCI Frigidaire's as with the newer Electrolux-Made Frigidaire Washer's.

Peace and Happy GE Laundry Dazes, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 109709 , Reply# 74   2/14/2006 at 07:16 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Ya know, Steve I have to look again.
You may be right again!

I did see the laundry move around the tub as it would in a (UGH) Frigidaire/Electrolux T/L-er.


Post# 109740 , Reply# 75   2/14/2006 at 09:56 (4,296 days old) by bryan71 ()        
Where do you buy...

Where do you get the magnets to defeat the lid switch?

Post# 109747 , Reply# 76   2/14/2006 at 10:27 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Home Depot.

Any magnet(s) will do!


Post# 109760 , Reply# 77   2/14/2006 at 11:59 (4,296 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        
Tub Indexing

My neighbor has a Ge like this but it is a few years old. She bought it from a friend. After installing, and did a load with her, I noticed that the tub indexes slightly.

So, I do not know if much has changed in a few years.


Post# 109761 , Reply# 78   2/14/2006 at 12:00 (4,296 days old) by the7 ()        
Turn Indexing ?

"does this new GE Washer's Tub turn Indexing, during the Agitation?"

What is meant by "turn Indexing"?


Post# 109777 , Reply# 79   2/14/2006 at 13:58 (4,296 days old) by bryan71 ()        
ExtrAction Basket

I wonder if the "indexing" is what they refer to as the ExtrAction Basket? Have seen that in the specs but was not sure what it meant exactly.

Post# 109780 , Reply# 80   2/14/2006 at 14:09 (4,296 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        
Indexing

After watching it IIRC, I do not think it did much for the was action, at least not on that mdoel anyway.

Post# 109800 , Reply# 81   2/14/2006 at 14:58 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
ExtrAction Basket

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I just KNEW I would like this machine!

Post# 109810 , Reply# 82   2/14/2006 at 15:36 (4,296 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: GE Extra Action Basket:

This is what made me think about the Indexing Tubs, in the GE Washers. I got to thinking about the original Westinghouse Washers, similar to Austin's and the newer "WCI" and Electrolux Frigidaire's and I even saw a new Admiral/Maytag Washer last year that the Tub did Indexing on, during the Wash and Rinse Cycles. It seems to be getting more popular with several Brands.

"OK" Toggles, in which way are you referring about knowing that you were going to like this Washer? What's your Turn-On about it, besides an Extra Action Basket!!!

Peace and Fun GE Wash Basket Action, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 109825 , Reply# 83   2/14/2006 at 17:43 (4,296 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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What's your turn-on about it:

mechanically simple
easy to fix
nice looking
big capacity
plastique can't rust.

no joke- the short fast agitator stroke doesn't realy work for me


Post# 109841 , Reply# 84   2/14/2006 at 19:35 (4,295 days old) by agiflow ()        

Looks like the industry is forcing us to go front load. :-(

Post# 109877 , Reply# 85   2/14/2006 at 23:21 (4,295 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: Turn-On about GE Washer's Extra Action Basket:

Hey! Steve "Toggles" What's your turn-on about it:

If I'm correct in the Basket Indexing, it along with the Agitator that your new GE Washer has is facinating to me, watching the Turn-Over and Swirling around of the Laundry items.

They do seem like they do have a pretty good-size Capacity, but I wonder how long the Transmission will hold-up with quite a few Extra Large Loads of Towels, Bedspreads, Comforters, Jeans, Sweat Outfits, etc.

Yes, it does seem like it is quite simply put together, besides looking like it would be fairly simple to Repair.

plastique can't rust:

Thats true, but I've always wondered if items with Metal parts on them might catch near the Holes and cause jagged edges on the Holes, causing Ripping Clothing and/or Towels, etc!!!

I'm not real pleased myself with the Consoles, except for the newer Darker Console Profile's with the Stainless Steel Tub in the Washer and Stainless Steel Drum in the Dryers. Actually even though I know that the Hotpoint Washers and Dryers are basic GE's, I really like the Swirled Blue around the Controls an Timer, on their Washers and Dryers.

No Joke- the short fast agitator stroke
doesn't realy work for me:

Are you referring to the "DD" WP/Kenmore Washer's Faster Agitation, I'm assuming that the Slower/Longer Stroke works better for you, does it?

Happy GE Laundry Washing, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 109900 , Reply# 86   2/15/2006 at 06:44 (4,295 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Que dice?

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Pat- the GOVT is forcing us to go frontal!

Steve- it indexes! but not as much as a Frigi-Lux!

Woking with www.putfile.com... to get videos accessible to all, but right now it's affectionately known as(hijo de) puta-file to me!


Post# 109911 , Reply# 87   2/15/2006 at 07:46 (4,295 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Eureka-Hoover, it works!

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www.putfile.com/toggleswitch/medi...
(This is the same as the below link.)

WE HAVE VIDEOS!

Check again by 9pm eastern, will add some more later.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO toggleswitch's LINK


Post# 109919 , Reply# 88   2/15/2006 at 08:09 (4,295 days old) by repair-man (Pittsburgh PA)        

I do believe what GE referers to as the "Extra Action Basket" are the models with the ribbed basket. I have seen them in both plastic and SS models. From the pictures it doesn't look like Toggles has this king of basket. The best way to describe it is that GE got the idea from an old fashioned wash board. As the tub shakes back and forth while washing, the clothes on the outer part (not near the agitator) are being scrubbed by the ribbed basket. Hence "Extra Action".
It's another example of a company using something probably not intended in the original design as a marketing tool by giving it a fancy name. Although in this case it seems like it should work pretty well.

Ed


Post# 109921 , Reply# 89   2/15/2006 at 08:13 (4,295 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Gotta agree with you logic, Ed-
Looks coincidental to me!

I find it odd that GE offers the simple basket as on my near BOL machine- a ribbed one in plastique, and a SS one.

Marketing, marketing, marketing. It is said that we Americans can sell refrigerators to Eskimos.



Post# 109927 , Reply# 90   2/15/2006 at 09:05 (4,295 days old) by magic clean ()        
extraction basket

Seem to recall that the extra vertical basket ribs were said to improve water extraction--hence "extraction". I think the ribs translate into more surface area for the fabrics spread over, thereby improving spin results

Post# 109933 , Reply# 91   2/15/2006 at 09:30 (4,295 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Thanks Steve

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LOL- Said:

........ but I've always wondered if items with metal parts on them might catch near the holes.

Of course, now that this thought is in the universe it will happen (to me)!


Who luvs ya baby?


Post# 110045 , Reply# 92   2/16/2006 at 01:07 (4,294 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: Plastic Washer Tub Holes:

Hey! Steve "Toggles" don't think "Negative" about what I said about items catching around the Holes, keep a "Positive" Outlook about this.

"Who Love You Baby!!!"

"I Do and Many Others Also"

Peace and Fun Laundry GE Washing, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 110062 , Reply# 93   2/16/2006 at 06:45 (4,294 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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:-)

Post# 110067 , Reply# 94   2/16/2006 at 07:23 (4,294 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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What is meant by "turn indexing"?

I hate this expression- it gives no insight as to what is going on!


The inner perforated basket turns slightly in both directions in response to the agitator's strokes. In my GE, it ends up slighlty more clock-wise than before.

If you go back and click on the vidieos I have provided in the link you can clearly see the load and the tub move around clockwise by "fast-forwarding" the "bar" at the bottom of the Quick-time video player.


Post# 110092 , Reply# 95   2/16/2006 at 09:53 (4,294 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Cool videos...thanks for posting as I've always wanted to see what one of these agitators looks like in action!! Definitely not Bob-load material though! ;-)

Because the design is cheap and uses rubber bands to support the tub assembly at the top, the tub "shimmies" back & forth during agitation; GE took advantage of that flaw by added a ribbed basket on some models and calling it ExtrAction. So theoretically the shimmying will "scrub" the clothes on the outside...like I'm supposed to believe THAT bulls**t!!

I noticed on the videos the tub is indexing slightly on a large load; another aspect of the cheap-ass design because it's not supposed to!! So now we add a weak brake to the list of MANY design flaws of a plastic GE...and trust me, it will get worse and eventually flood the floor once the brake fails completely and the tub spins during agitation. Glad this one's staying here!!

--Austin


Post# 110113 , Reply# 96   2/16/2006 at 14:40 (4,294 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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More videos coming. Stay tuned!

Post# 110115 , Reply# 97   2/16/2006 at 14:47 (4,294 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
WE'RE HAVING A MINI-WASH IN !

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So far looks like this will happen.
come on down~~~~~ NY, NJ, CT, PA, MA, etc!


19-February-2006 Sunday.
Write to me for details.

Provoded will be:
Lunch- Pizza
Dinner- homemade
and lots fo dirty laundry to air-- er I mean wash!

Let's work that GE top-loader and that GE Filter-flo!!

ALL ARE INVITED.

Map-Quest it==> Mineola, NY 11501-2004


Post# 110119 , Reply# 98   2/16/2006 at 14:55 (4,294 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Huh. I'm trying to view the GE vids at work, but all that comes up on the screen is a big Q; and I think we all know what THAT means. I'll try from home. I haven't had any trouble viewing vids at Putfile from my iMac. Can't wait to see the machine in action.

Post# 110137 , Reply# 99   2/16/2006 at 16:39 (4,294 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Didn't Michael Nivotny work at the Big Q on QAF?

Post# 110159 , Reply# 100   2/16/2006 at 19:00 (4,293 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
crazy

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What is this---------

Brokeback Mountain 2.

This thread is huge

frig--I can't get the videos either.

ha ha I got a hundred


Post# 110218 , Reply# 101   2/16/2006 at 22:54 (4,293 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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well U R 100% fabulous!

Post# 110309 , Reply# 102   2/17/2006 at 11:53 (4,293 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
What is this, Brokeback Mountain 2?

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I personally did not see any cowboys pitching a tent together did you?


*LOL*

MORE VIDEOS! go back and get' em!


Post# 110631 , Reply# 103   2/19/2006 at 14:12 (4,291 days old) by geextrarinse (New York City, NY)        
The new GE....

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Hi Toggle and Friends!

Sorry I couldn't make it to the Wash-In. I didn't read all the posts and forgive me if I missed something but WE (my roommate and I) have this same machine as a Hotpoint in our apartment. IT IS A PIECE OF SH*T!

Sorry to say but its true. I know you aren't going to be there long but since I moved here in Nov, I've never been more disappointed in a washer. It so truly saddens me to see what our appliances have become!

My expereinces are these - the water levels are not adequate for regular loads - super is too much water if you only have a large load and medium is not enough.

I have never had a washer tangle and eat clothes like this machine. I've taken jeans out that were twisted into knots, lint on everything and when you remove the clothes after the final spin there is lint covering the basket. If you ever watch the neutral drain - the lint floating on the top of the water is rediposited on everything and then it seems to spin forever.

I'm very disappointed in this. I've also noticed - by peeking under the 1" crack I could manage in the lid before it stopped, that the tub is already indexing a goood 3 inches with each agitator stroke and its only 4 months old! - Its obvious that this is not supposed to last very long and I wish I had my filter flo there instead. I sometimes want to take my laundry up to my parents to wash but after living in NYC and lugging laundry for all those years, I just deal with the Hotpoint.

Oh and Austin - I DID advance the cycle to spin with water - sounds like a jet taking off. and once I tried to fill it up higher than the machine naturally allows to cover a beadspread and didn't know about the lovely overflow tube - Suddenly I heard water trickling into thhe cabinet and thought "what the.." There was water everywhere - Iwas so mad!

Like I said - Piece of Sh*t!

So Disgusted.

I hope you're having fun boys!

Best,
Matthew


Post# 110713 , Reply# 104   2/19/2006 at 20:46 (4,290 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Don't hold back. Tell us what you really feel! LOL

I hate to admit this, but I have become adjusted to a front-loader. This machine is taking a bit of getting used to.

I agree with the lint observation. HUGE deposits.
I miss Automatic Temperature Control.
I miss fast spins.
I miss beign able to somewhat overload.
I miss the ability to wash coats, rugs, shoes, pillows, blankets, bedspreads, comforters.
I miss fresh/clean water rinses after my softener is dispensed.

In and ideal world I'd have a stacked F/L W&D and my GE FF!


T/L: 30 min wash + 60 min dry = 90 minutes
F/L: 45 min wsh + 45 min dry = 90 minutes.

so i'm not too freaked out about cycle times!


Post# 110833 , Reply# 105   2/20/2006 at 10:31 (4,290 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        

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I've always been a front-load man. I have had and owned toploaders before and some I've even really liked. Case in point here. When toggleswitch loaded the videos of this GE I was very impressed with the action of it. I even at one point thought " I'll get rid of my HE3 and get these!!". But hering these comments is a disappointment, and I also guess a slap back to reality that you truly can't beat a frontloader for cleaning, compacity and proformance.

Post# 110857 , Reply# 106   2/20/2006 at 12:54 (4,290 days old) by rayjay (Carteret, New Jersey)        
Front Loaders

Robert, I agree with you. I have had a Westinghouse frontloader, and now a LG. In between I had a Maytag top loader. I always go back to a front loader

If you look a March 2006 Consumer Reports;
They say:

Top Loaders for adequate cleaning

Front Loaders for Maximum washing efficiency

Enough said.


Post# 111039 , Reply# 107   2/20/2006 at 23:20 (4,289 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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To me, efficiency simply means doing something with less resources.

Does it mean the best job?


Post# 111055 , Reply# 108   2/21/2006 at 06:31 (4,289 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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In my fantasy world I'd wash in a front-loader, give an addtional rinse and fast spin in a Frigidaire 1140rpm RapiDry (or equivalent.. ducks and runs) top-loader.

Post# 111071 , Reply# 109   2/21/2006 at 07:57 (4,289 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas)        

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Toggleswitche:

Don't get me wrong, I like the GE machines you have. I sit and watch the Videos all the time. Love the action and Looks like it can do the job. I was just referring to the lint thing is all. I would also like to know what the times are for the soil level on the cycles are.


Post# 111078 , Reply# 110   2/21/2006 at 08:28 (4,289 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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:-)

Will research for you.
There is a link to the owners' manual above.

It appears you are an appraiser too. Cool. Will contact you off-line!



Post# 111081 , Reply# 111   2/21/2006 at 08:39 (4,289 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
More on coming out.

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Said: Nice machine. So, that is not a dual action agitator. How did the wash come out?

Quietly at first. NO NO NO--->

Geoff said that he has both types where he works~
He finds the straight-vane agitator more effective than the dual-action one.



Post# 112950 , Reply# 112   3/2/2006 at 20:09 (4,279 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Is it dead already?

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Today I washed whites in the new GE.

Prewash=> Had to use a *wash* portion of a cycle rather than a rinse to get warm water.Let it wash for about 7 minutes, then advanced timer to drain and spin.

Well, the timer decided to move on its own into the spin poriton of the cycle while there was still water in the tub.
It did NOT like a spin-drain. That plus a near suds-lock; it was NOT happy.The tub was spinning slower and slower. The phone rang. I stepped away, the cycle completed on its own.

There was a burning smell in the air. [Editor's note: that was not my burning lust]. Tried to spin the load. NADA.Reset the dial to WASH. Hot water, detergent, bleach (yes BLEACH Europe! LOL ) NOTHING no agitation.
I let it sit for an hour then drained the tub(separate drain pump motor). NO SPIN. Just to be sure, I removed the lid-switch bypass magnets and shut the lid and still, nothing.

I am hoping this is the thermal overload protector kicking in. Will keep you informed. It has been one hour and still nothing.

Time of first onset of beginning coma/death, shown below (it is now 9:10 pm east coast)









Post# 112952 , Reply# 113   3/2/2006 at 20:12 (4,279 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
First one who says *I told you so* gets one right in the kis

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Near suds-lock.
YAY Mexican viva! Con phospates y perlas activas.

This was the fill for the main wash. No agitation followed.


Post# 112957 , Reply# 114   3/2/2006 at 20:19 (4,279 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Got the extension on the drain hose.

Needed a piece of 3/4" in diameter galvanized pipe. Each plastic hose clamps onto the metal pipe.

Notice the electrical tape? The @#$%^& thing had a tiny drip.
Can you say *patch-job*.


Post# 112958 , Reply# 115   3/2/2006 at 20:21 (4,279 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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There's not even a motor hum??? hmm.

Post# 112959 , Reply# 116   3/2/2006 at 20:23 (4,279 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Excessive use of duct tape, can make me pass as macho.

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...and stuck the goose-neck into the stand pipe, bypassing the slop-sink and requisite pump.

Definitely not my best work. Ask me if I care, however.................


Post# 112960 , Reply# 117   3/2/2006 at 20:25 (4,279 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Well praise be...... and Hallelujah.

It's running again.


Post# 112962 , Reply# 118   3/2/2006 at 20:27 (4,279 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Again, I reiterate, piece of s**t. Probably the thermal overload protector kicking out. Shut the machine off, unplug it, and it should reset itself in around 10 minutes.

I had a similar experience last May: when I had the agitate arm improperly adjusted in the 1-18, I put the timer on "Spin" to drain the water. How the agitate arm affected this I don't know, but the tub spun up, I didn't hear the start windings kick out, and after a while the motor kicked off, emitting a slight "burnt electrical" smell. I shut the timer off, unplugged the machine, waited a couple of minutes and it reset itself. I then corrected the problem VERY quickly!

--Austin


Post# 112963 , Reply# 119   3/2/2006 at 20:28 (4,279 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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It's a good thing too....I was waving my finger at it screeching ..*Don't make me have to call service on your @$$!!!* I can't deal with plumber's crack at this time.

Post# 112997 , Reply# 120   3/2/2006 at 22:59 (4,279 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Toggle---glad your GE was revived! Would hate to think you'd have to have it repaired before it was even a month old. It might not be a bad idea to hang one of your Icons over it to protect it from further trauma, LOL!

Post# 113003 , Reply# 121   3/2/2006 at 23:36 (4,279 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Good idea!
But it is I torturing it!


Post# 113022 , Reply# 122   3/3/2006 at 01:37 (4,279 days old) by sactoteddybear ()        
Re: Correct me if I'm wrong:

Don't GE Top-Load Washers have an Electric Pump? I'm thinking then if they do, it wouldn't be a very good idea to use High-Sudzing Detergents in them then, because it would certainly make the Pumps Overwork and Burn them out in no time.

That is my curiosity thought for now, I would think that especially when someone Buys a new Washer to Sell with their house, or even if it were to be Rented out, that they wouldn't abuse it with Oversudzing, causing Repairs, before it even gets a chance with life of Laundry.

Peace and Fun Times of doing Laundry, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...


Post# 113080 , Reply# 123   3/3/2006 at 08:18 (4,279 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Accidents happen.

Post# 113101 , Reply# 124   3/3/2006 at 09:17 (4,279 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Dolores Caliborne

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Sometimes Delores, an accident can be an unhappy woman's best friend.

I wasn' trying to murder my washer, I swear. I wasnt't!
I'm happy..........


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Post# 113144 , Reply# 125   3/3/2006 at 14:30 (4,279 days old) by the7 ()        
GE 1990 vs GE2006 for lint?

The video shows that GE 1990 has a lint filter on top of the agitator while new GE has none.

Could you please commend on the lint deposit on laundry between these two washers?

Why most TL do not have lint filter?


Post# 113152 , Reply# 126   3/3/2006 at 14:51 (4,279 days old) by agiflow ()        

Modern TL washers all have "self-cleaning" filters which is just flushed out with the wash/rinse water.

Post# 113170 , Reply# 127   3/3/2006 at 16:01 (4,279 days old) by the7 ()        

GE1990 uses a pump to circulate the water for filtering.
Seems the new GE has no pump to do the circulation for effective lint filtering.

My 95/96 Maytag TL also does not have a pump for circulation. Although it claims it has the "self-cleaning" filter, the lint stills flows on the top and will redeposit on laundry. Without a pumping action, it is very difficult to remove this floating lint.
It happens on my TL and this lint deposit on my laundry gives us the headache. Even an extra deep rinse could not remove this lint deposit.


Post# 113187 , Reply# 128   3/3/2006 at 19:21 (4,278 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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WELL, young man (yes, I mean you, Tog), if there was a Social Services bureau for washing machines, they'd be paying you a visit, LOL!

"Excuse me, sir, but we've had a report of someone doing a spin-out with a neutral-drain washer. I'm afraid we're going to have to investigate...."


Post# 113265 , Reply# 129   3/4/2006 at 06:17 (4,278 days old) by designgeek ()        


...and yet...! 20 years from now, this poor ol' GE will be considered a classic by some, one of the last large TLs, with a few quaint quirks to be sure but cool no less. I'm sure some of the machines presently considered classics came in for their share of criticism when they were new, Consumer Reports & all.

I wonder about this. Most of us recognize the need for a learning curve with most of our washers & other appliances, units we've largely picked out deliberately and conscientiously. It seems to me the same case applies for "plane Jane" units, particularly those with few features or options: a learning curve to optimize performance and avoid problems such as those lint deposits and overloads. With all that, I think it should be possible to make these things work reasonably well, if not first-rate.


Post# 113289 , Reply# 130   3/4/2006 at 09:38 (4,278 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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The lint issue for me is not a biggie in that I do not have animals. But there is a pronounced increase with the new GE!

Someone in the club who just posted HIS *new* classic GE FF claims that a family member LOVES his GE over their own MT in that the classic filter-flo removes TONS of pet hair and danader from the laundry.

My new GE overall?
Let's just say I plugged in and connected my front-loader temporarily till it gets moved/taken.


Post# 113299 , Reply# 131   3/4/2006 at 11:01 (4,278 days old) by the7 ()        
A learning curve !

"a learning curve to optimize performance and avoid problems such as those lint deposits and overloads."

My family did learn to use our 95/96 Maytag TL since 1996.
We followed the instruction. Put in laundry. Poured powder detergent on top of laundry. Started the cycle. At the end of the cycle, the lint and trace of undissolved detergent were found on the "washed" laundry.
Next time, we put in detergent first. Then the laundry. Still had some trace of lint/detergent. Hence we tried some further means of improvement.

1st stage of improvement for undissolved detergent: Fill the tub with 1/4 warm water. Put in detergent and let the agitator run 30 sec to dissolve the detergent. Then add the laundry and switch the water level to high. Start and let the washer does the rest.

2nd stage of reduction of lint deposit: Modify the agitator by cutting off the "angel wings" to reduce the harsh rubbing. Add a home-made lint filter inside the agitator pole.

We do obtain certain improvement after such learning/modification.

But it is still worse than our prevous experiment with Euro-size (1 FL and 2 TL) H-axis washers prior 1996.

Recently we get an NOS Huebsch FL which has the washing performance similar to our old H-axis with improved dryness due to faster final spin.

The Maytag TL has been repair-free and is still very strong. It is connected as a "spare" in the basement and may be used occasionally for "sedimental" means.


Post# 114149 , Reply# 132   3/8/2006 at 22:15 (4,273 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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More videos posted~


Follow the bouncing ball
------and------
GE 2006 Spinning power unit

enjoy!


link to videos in prior panels in this thread!


Post# 937274 , Reply# 133   5/9/2017 at 02:47 (194 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
Not working, that would be from suds lock ;)

Just adding my 2 cents for the history books. That would be the motor's thermal protector at work. Though I am a bit surprised it takes over an hour to reset- but I guess thats how it rolls. This generation of GE washers are unique in that they do not have a clutch and instead use a split capacitor motor. If you look at the motor in post 69, older models will have a bell above the pulley which acts as the machine's clutch.

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As a result any drag on the basket (like from suds lock) is placed directly on the motor- worsened by grid like reinforcements on the other side of the inner basket. Enough drag will over load the motor causing it over heat and trip out its thermal protector. I had the 1997 model of that washer which had a clutch (worst washer ever, but thats another story best not told lol) and it would suds lock frequently. The tub would slow down substantially in spin but the machine would ride through until the rinse. Never had the motor stall or trip out though I would imagine it was not to friendly on the clutch.

To the OP, thank you for posting this thread. While my 97 experience was not to found, I still have a soft spot for these mid 2000s models.





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