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Post# 109199 2/12/2006 at 00:15 (6,641 days old) by launderess  (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Am too knackered to do the whole teaser thing, so will just come out with it. My first "vintage" automatic washer is a Miele W1070 washer. Nabbed it from eBay and am happy to now be able to look other club memebers in the face at last! *LOL* Ok, one does own a Hoover TT, but that washer is not fully automatic. *LOL* Sorry no snaps yet, but promise will get some taken soon to share. Machine arrived via Beltmann as known almost two weeks ago, but Miele did not come to install the unit until this past Saturday. Here's me having a quite cup early this morning, when to my surprise the nice young lad from Miele shows up early to do the installation. Wanted Miele to do the install as the machine is special in that it can run on 120v/20 amp electrical service. This was the main reason I bid on the unit in the first place. As some might remember our home is sort of "electrically" challenged at the moment, and the idea of yet another 220v appliance drew red flags. Yet wanted a "new" washer for some time now, but most of what is out there is, well garbage IMHO. Any way back to the installation: Lucky me would choose a day the first major snow storm is predicted for having a washer installed. The nice young Miele lad did his duty by the company and completed the power cord change, boot replacement (the current one was grotty, full of mould and as it turned out had a rather large hole, then moved the washer into position. After leveling the unit first of a series of mini panics set in which sent me running out several blocks to the local hardware store. The new power cord is indeed a 120v cord, but has a 20 amp plug. Worse still it is very short and the only 20 amp circut which does not have anything else running on it was several feet away. This required an heavy duty applinace extension cord, so at least one could power up the unit and test things out. Back from the hardware store, yet another "problem" creeped up; the drain and fill hoses were too short. Anyone who has owned a Miele knows their washing machines only use "European washer hoses" because of the connections. Back out to the hardware store where I purchased a "Y" connector and a adaptor to connect one long washing machine hose from the sink to the central bit of the "Y", problem solved. Though the connection has a tiny constant drip, even with several twists of Teflon tape. Don't wish to tighten the connection too hard with a wrench or pliers in case of stripping threads. May pick up some Teflon "paste" and give a squirt around to seal everything up. The drain hose was not a problem solved so easy. Miele does not carry "long" drain hoses for their washers in the United States,(though they can be found common enough in Germany), so had to improvise. Used a "drain hose extension" had left over from another front loader, cut the "U" off the new Miele drain hose that the nice lad had just attached, and spliced an end from the old Miele drain hose to make a connection long enough to reach the drain hose extension. More "cutting and pasting" and have a decent enough drain hose to at least run the machine tonight for cleaning. Leaks like a sieve from the end where the "U" was cut and that is logical as there is no real way to clamp down ribbed drain hose material. Will head out to the hardware store on Sunday and see if I can find a stong bit of rubber or plastic hose that can fit each end into, then clamp with hose rings again. Much as one hates to move a this 300lb behemoth, eventually will have to find a long drain hose which fits the washer's drain connection and will fit the drain hose extension opening. While one is at it will probably get a new one of those as well. Ok, machine is installed, hoses hooked up, time for a good cleaning with baking soda and vinegar. Did several cycles with my cleaning cocktail as the unit was very grotty inside, and here is my take on the Miele W1070: This unit is built like a tank, more so the later Mieles IMHO. Uses quite a bit of water as well, as even when running cleaning cycles with no laundry, the unit swayed abit as the water was churned to and fro. Nothing major, but one could "feel" all that weight. Quietness is NOT this units strong suit. As with all mechanical timer washers, there is a concert of clicks, and sounds as the unit goes about it's business. What is some what startling is the way the thermostat makes a loud sound when it reaches the correct them and the timer starts to advance towards the main wash cycle. It is almost like a loud "bang". Pump sounds are strange, especially when the unit is doing the "grauduated" spins. As for noise during the spin cycles, am here to tell you have sat sitting behind engines on DC-10's LC 10-11's and 747's that are quieter! *LOL* Obviously Miele dealt more with sound quality on the Novatronic and later units. Will not do any major laundry until the drain hose situation is taken care of, went through a score of those "wee-wee" pads today and am that tired from mopping up water, thus in no mood to do that again anytime soon. Sadly the W1070 is one of the Miele units with a decorative door, so cannot see inside during the cycle, thus there will not be much to report about actually eye-balling the laundry action. All and all the W1070 is a very solid washer, and may become my daily driver for a while, well if one can get used to the "engine" noise from the spin cycles that is. Launderess | ||
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Post# 109209 , Reply# 2 2/12/2006 at 01:27 (6,641 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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What is interesing is even though the unit is "timer" controled, this Miele washer does think. If one presses the "1/2 load button", the timer will advance right through pre-wash and part of the main wash cycle as well. What is rather confusing is choosing cycles as there are several parameters to set: temp, cycle and fabric. Oh and the cycles are quite long, even without the pre-wash. This washer is most certianly one which requires more user input than today's Miele washers. This can be a good thing,unless you forget to press the "short spin" button when washing on the "Permanent Press" settings and come back later to find your wash sitting in the final water not spun out. | ||
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Post# 109228 , Reply# 3 2/12/2006 at 03:39 (6,641 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Another interesting feature is the washtime guarantee, albeit it is also the reason for the long cycles. This system guarantees that if you select a lower temperature than 205F the total time is still the same. The short spin was relatively new then too, although it was introduced on some models of the previous series. Older models needed to be manually forwarded to the spin cycle. I love the flexibility of these machines, my mother had an older machine (W423) that also had three dials. And since I was doing the laundry most of the time I have many good memories of these machines. Design your own cycle! | ||
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Post# 109232 , Reply# 4 2/12/2006 at 04:22 (6,641 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Was Time Guarantee
Is driving me batty. Wanted to finish the "cleaning" cycles quickly, so set the temp to "Cold" which is tap cold water, but used hot water from the tap. Darn cycles took ages, almost thought the washer was heating water. Good thing about timer controled models is one can simply advance the timer to proceed with rinses/spinning. These washers are NOT designed for washing multiple loads of laundry in quick sucession. *LOL* L. | ||
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Post# 109276 , Reply# 5 2/12/2006 at 09:29 (6,641 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 109326 , Reply# 6 2/12/2006 at 13:07 (6,640 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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W423 is quite time efficient My W423, seems to take slightly over an hour for a Lightly soiled 50deg cottons. My new machine takes 40 or 56 minutes depending on whether or not I select an extra rinse. I havent done a heavy soil yet to see how that goes, but so far I cant complain about the wash times. | ||
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Post# 109362 , Reply# 7 2/12/2006 at 17:36 (6,640 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Thaks FriGiLux, Hope to have some snaps up by mid-week or so, but for now just trying to take care of the hose problem. Know what has to happen, and probably will just buy a new longer hose either from Europe or in the States, just really do not fancy moving the washer at the moment. So far have not actually timed cycles, but only going by what "seems" a long time. According to the owner's manual, as one would expect choosing "Cottons" and "Permanent Press" with hot or hotter water temps would result in long cycle times (naturally) as the water must be heated. Saving grace on these units is they are hot and cold water plumbed. While not very water efficient, one can do a cold pre-wash then a "hot" wash (using tap hot or at least warm water), which should speed things up as the machine will not have to work that hard to heat water. More like the "temp boost" found on many American front loaders. Think the "cycle guarantee" bit comes more from oxygen bleaches and enzyme detergents which back in the 1980's were not as highly developed as today's formulas. Activated oxygen bleaches work much faster and today's enzymes work in cold, warm and hot water. This helps reduce the need for long hot or boil wash times, and wash cycle times as the detergent is pretty much active from lukewarm, to warm through hot water. What is interesting is the W1070 and it's cousins take liquid detergent, but the manual clearly states pre-wash cyles are not needed for liquid detergents, and to set the machine accordingly. For Cottons and Permanent press this means setting the cycle selector straight to the "Main Wash" cycle, skipping the pre-wash. Liquid detergents, according to the manual are also good for the "short" cycles as well. Thank goodness this washer only spins after certian rinses. Cannot imagine having to listen to four or more spins during a cycle. Will have to stock up on "quiet" music to play in the background while doing laundry to counteract machine noise. Think newer Miele washers now have brushless induction motors, which would account for some of the lower noise level. Know older W1918's had brushes as remember a friend who had that model having a repair job/motor brush replacment. Now off to the shops (in the newly fallen snow) to find a solution to the "hose" situation. Launderess | ||
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Post# 109390 , Reply# 8 2/12/2006 at 20:11 (6,640 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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Brushed Motors are alive and well Its only the TOL models in AU and the UK that have brushless motors, all the rest over here have brushes and if you spin the drum empty you can hear the slight noise. | ||
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Post# 109402 , Reply# 9 2/12/2006 at 21:12 (6,640 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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You've piqued my interest as to exactly HOW noisy the spin cycle is.... In fact, rather than trying to mask it with quiet music, I highly suggest you try the classic Sex Pistols album, played with the volume knob at 11, LOL! Or....since it's a German machine, you can play 80's industrial noise-rockers Einsturzende Neubauten, instead. 'Knackered'? You really ARE an Anglophile, Launderess. If you tell me you listened to Sparks back in the day, the deal is sealed! | ||
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Post# 109412 , Reply# 10 2/12/2006 at 21:46 (6,640 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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Like a Kenwood Chef That has been mixing a fruit cake for 30 minutes and could do with a transmission service, is a good descriptor. A GE Potscrubber from the 70's An Insinkerator but without the metallic crunches I cant think of any more comparisons atm, but there is a few to get you started. | ||
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Post# 109425 , Reply# 11 2/12/2006 at 23:16 (6,640 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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How Noisy Is It?
Well take a seat on Boeing 747 directly behind wing and listen as the engines go from pulling from the gate/moving to the runway, then as plane enters full throttle power as it beings going down the runway for take off. That pretty much sums it up IMHO. Though the Pratt & Whitney/GE/Rolls Royce engines are probably much more louder in accurate measurement, the Miele W1070, IMHO comes damn near close. *LOL* Doing my first "real" load of laundry at the moment; one queen sized mattress cover, one queen bed sheet and a few pillow cases. Machine is quite slient during filling, tumbling, can hear nothing but the timer marking the time and various clicks and tings. Machine filled and started washing, did not call for more water several times as other front loaders I've used in the past would. Then again this load is not very "absorbent", so maybe there we are. Set the machine for "short" cotton cycle, 120F water temp (but filled the washer with "hot" water coming from the tap), and let the washer get on with it. These machines use quite a bit of water. One can see and feel the washer slightly sway was the wash sloshes about, much like SQ and other commercial laundromat washers. Still, things are quite quiet. Unless one is the same area as the washer, it would be hard to tell was on. In both the cottons and permenant press washes, the machine will add cold water towards the end of the cycle to cool the suds. This according to the manual is to prevent creasing, but one thinks it is to help reduce sudsing as well. Strangely the washer does NOT pump out some water before adding the cold, so now there is very much water than before. This makes for a great few minutes of sloshing about as the load is really full of water. Draining is quite quiet actually. Pump only makes a low "rumble" sound, if one could call it that. Maybe the early sounds yesterday was from the washer not being run in awhile, and all the muck in the drain/pump. Waiting for the first spin so can see if it the sound was as bad as I remember from yesterday. FriGiLux: "Sex Pistols"? In this house! Have you quite gone mad? *LOL* Queen, yes but that is another matter! *LOL* As for German music, could play Wagner, but then my neighbors think I'm already planning an invasion of Poland, so that will not do. Back to My Miele: Near as one can figure on this cotton cycle, the machine has a frist and second rinse, with only drains between each. Between the second and third rinse there is a short (VERY short) spin, but then something fun happens. The pump shuts off, and the machine fills while tumbling. It fills, and it fills, and it fills. Wish could see how much water was in there! Cycle tumbles to and fro with all that WATER! Ohhhh the Feds would have a fit if too many of these units came back into use! Ok, first spin is over, and it was NOT in my mind. This machine is loud, about the same as new commercial SQ laundromat washers, maybe a bit less. For the fourth rinse, the washer starts filling as the spin comes to an end. Washer keeps filling as the machine tumbles. Result of all this palaver so far? By the fourth rinse the water was perfectly clear. Ok, final spin over, resulting laundry is VERY clean, with all stains gone. L. | ||
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Post# 109600 , Reply# 13 2/13/2006 at 19:59 (6,639 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Jon: Not too sure what this machine is doing in there as the soild door keeps one from seeing all the action. Nears I can tell there are pauses between reverse tumbles. The pause varies depending upon cycle chosen and if the heater is engaged. Again because of the solid door cannot tell if the machine goes directly into spinning or distributes laundry first. It does seem like quite a bit of pfaffing about is going on in there though. Am doing a small load on "Delicates Short" at the moment, and it like all other cycles so far takes ages. L. | ||
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Post# 109839 , Reply# 15 2/14/2006 at 19:23 (6,638 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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More Insights on My Baby
Well first thing to note is the heating portion is "timed" and not dependent upon temp setting. Unlike the later Novotronic model washing machines, these units will only heat within certian parameters. If the set temp is not obtained, the timer will advance any way. It is easy to tell what the wash water temp has reached, by turning the temp dial downwards from the setting. One hears a click that indicates the thermostat is being turned off. According to Miele, their washers are NOT supposed to be filled with very hot tap water. IIRC, 130F or so is the top limit. Even my W1070 manual states the washer is to be connected to "cold" and "warm", water. More tidbits: Unlike other washers I've used, there is no spin cycle after either of the pre-wash cycles. One must either set the unit to drain and spin (Extended Pre-Wash cycle), or stop the machine and do the above,then reset the unit back to a normal wash (for the pre-wash cycles built into the "normal" cotton and PP cycles). Commercial SQ laundromat washers I've seen do not spin after the pre-wash, but thought all home washers did. Miele gives strong directions on being skimpy with detergent dosages for pre-wash cycles, and making sure when the extended pre-wash cycle is used that the laundry is drained and spun before going onto any of the wash cycles. Guess this all is to do with making sure the washer does not over suds. Since my washer has a solid door, will have to be careful about detergents. May even have to go back to Persil, though so far Wisk tabs (mashed into powder, at 1T) is fine. Tide CW powder was fine in small amounts, but too much and one "hears" all the suds. Well not that one hears suds,but there is a muffled sound instead of the usual sloshing. This tells me there is too much suds inside the unit and need to keep an eye on things. So far cannot complain about my new little baby. She's built to last and while having her little pet peeves makes washing day fun. Just wish cycle times were not quite so long, but that is easily taken care of by advancing the timer. Usually do not bother and let the Miele do it's thing. Sound of all that sloshing water is actually quite soothing. Have even grown accustomed to the drain and spin sounds. One minor concern is the small sink the washer drains into. As stated before this washer uses quite allot of water. When there is more water than laundry (like when doing small loads), that leads to lots of water being pumped out very quickly (this puppy has one powerful pump). Sometimes the water cannot drain fast enough and find myself having to lift the U of the drain hose to prevent it being submerged and causing a "lock". Keep forgetting one is supposed to use the "1/2" button for small loads when doing cottons or PP loads, but not exactly sure yet what the button does. Know it reduces water intake, which in turn shortens cycle time because less water needs to be heated. Because of the Miele "cycle guarantee" one can only assume | ||
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Post# 109870 , Reply# 16 2/14/2006 at 22:11 (6,638 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 109874 , Reply# 17 2/14/2006 at 22:58 (6,638 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Near as one can figure out, it "guarantees" no matter what temp is chosen or other parameters, cycle length will alwasy be the same. If say, the washer heated water to 200F in the normal cotton cycle faster than the pre-set time allowed, the main wash will begin but will still take the same alloted time. I could be wrong, and the manual does not explain, but think this is the case. It would explain the reason for maddeningly long cycles sometimes, even when I "cheat" by using "hot" water from the start and setting the temp dial to "cold". Of course one can simply advance the timer to shorten cycles, a nice touch one cannot do with computer controlled Miele washers. Have also discovered, there is no "tap cold" setting, even when choosing "cold" water, the darn heater seems to come on and heat wash water. Cannot be sure of this, but the inside of the washer feels "warm" even after several cold water rinses, after a wash cycle with "cold" water. L. | ||
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Post# 109883 , Reply# 18 2/15/2006 at 01:53 (6,638 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Oh The Fun Things I Can Do
While ironing, thought more about my new Miele. It dawned on me that my Hoover TT may have it's days numbered! *LOL* By choosing either the "delicate" or "woolens" cycle can do a good soak, as each of these cycles fill with lots of water. IIRC the woolens uses the most, water comes up half way up the door. On delicates water level is about 1/3 up the door. All one must do is let the machine finish filling, then stop and reset the cycle. With the onboard heater kicking in, can do an nice and cozy enzyme soak as well. When done soaking, simply drain water and or spin, then set to rinsing if wanted. L. | ||
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Post# 109887 , Reply# 20 2/15/2006 at 04:42 (6,638 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Doors
Launderess Congratulations on joing the elite members club, Hoover Twinnies and a working vintage FrontLoader..we need a few more members etc...LOL, dont even think of retiring that twinny, well not before you`ve used all your pee pee pads anyway. Does the Miele have an inner door as well as the outer door?? Could you not just keep the outer door open to watch the action etc?? Have you inspected your sump yet?? Cheers, Mike | ||
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Post# 109890 , Reply# 22 2/15/2006 at 05:32 (6,638 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Here is a pic of my machine. Unlike Asko and some other European front loaders, this door is THE one and only door. Mind you it does stop me from hanging around staring at the washer while it is running, so guess that is something. Personally have never been fond of the hamper style outer doors of Asko washers/dryers. When I take my laundry out of a front loader, want it to fall directly into my laundry basket/cart. The glass porthole is rather substantial as is the rubber boot. In fact the glass porthole seems to extend quite deeply into the tub, IMHO. This coupled with the tight boot means there is absolutely no leakage. One maddening thing is that since there is a new boot on the machine, one really has to slam the door hard to make it close. The Miele tech showed me how to do this after installing the new boot and told me not to be timid about closing the door so hard. In fact there simply is no other way to get the door closed besides using a good hard shove. Chester: Cleaned much muck from the lint filter and the pump looks fine. Ran several cleaning loads to clear out the sump/pump and though can see bits of gunk now and then in rinse or wash water, what can one expect from a 10+ year old washing machine? Jon: What is all this about your first vintage washer? Pray,do tell! L. Sacto: Yes, there is another discussion regarding my washer under the "Beltmann Let Me Down" thread. 
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Post# 109892 , Reply# 23 2/15/2006 at 06:16 (6,638 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Doors n Doors
Morning Jon Just testing about this Miele, wondered if it was a Hybrid or something different without seeing the pics!!! I knew about the Miele machines, integrated and panel doors, after all I was selling them before you where born...O my, now showing my age. Did you know the only other UK manufacturer to use this proven design was the Servis Quartz machines in the 80`s. Now dont tease us with the vintage machine Jon, do tell!! I`ll just consult my magic ball, Hmmmm, Mirror Mirror on the wall, Show me the image of Jons haul... I see a ...no....its .....ahhhhh. "It says three little letters make a small word, and its white with a brown trim... Hmmmm, not sure thats right, my ball needs shining... | ||
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Post# 110247 , Reply# 25 2/17/2006 at 02:47 (6,636 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Launderess, You said:"Here is a pic of my machine", but where is it? Wash time guarantee was Miele's answer to the "E" button that was introduced on many European machines. IIRC a Dutch businessman (Gerard de Lange) who owned a chain of appliance stores was the initiator of the "E" button, which made it possible to do a boil wash on 140*F. On some models it only lengthened the cycle and you had to choose a lower temperature yourself. On others that button lowered the temperature automatically to 140*F/60*C and also lengthened the cycle. Miele instead of that introduced the wash time guarantee so you always got enough washtime to get the laundry clean no matter what temperature you chose. I don't know when the washtime guarantee was dropped again. That was done quite silently I guess. Since this is a 120V machine I guess it's possible that the machine can't heat up all to the set temperature if you start with a cold fill. I assume the time the timer is on the wash time guarantee increment (I think that that's what it is) stays there for a set time, which is probably quite long enough to heat up from cold to boiling temperatures when on 220V but it might not be long enough to do it on 120V. The heating coming on when the temp. control is on cold could be to make sure that the water is warm enough to solve detergent. Later series do that, maybe your Miele has that too. My Miele heats cold water to about 20*C I think when the water is colder. | ||
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Post# 110248 , Reply# 26 2/17/2006 at 02:53 (6,636 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 110249 , Reply# 27 2/17/2006 at 02:54 (6,636 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 110259 , Reply# 28 2/17/2006 at 05:37 (6,636 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Merci Louis:
Yes, that is indeed my machine featured in your snaps. Cannot understand why my link did not "take". Will take some snaps by the weekend and hopefully upload them to my club file. This "cycle guarantee" business is getting on my nerves! No matter what one does it seems impossible to not use the heater. Granted am beginning to learn where certian things are on the timer, so can shorten cycles where necessary. Have noticed detergents that used to leave a scent with other front loaders, even my 1918 do not with the 1070. Must be all that water and deep rinses. Am also quite amazed at how stable this unit is, even when full to capacity. Have not be able to get a unbalanced load yet, not that one is really trying. 120V heater: Unlike Miele dishwashers of the same period and later model Miele washers, the temp control on this unit does not run through the timer. So if water temp does not reach a certian level within in the set period of time, tough chedder. As have not boil washed from cold water anything in ages, have not tried on this unit. From lukewarm or cool water, unit easily reaches 120F and sometimes 140 on "Cotton Short" with a full load. Always test the temp by turning the temp knob down one or two levels to see if it "clicks" at less the set temp. If it does, have just to stop and reset the washer to begin again to gain more heating time. This machine was designed to work with detergents and laundry aids of the time. Even the manual states that newer laundry products with enzymes work quite well at 120F or 140F, and only the higher temps would be needed for bleaching. Persil and many other detergents today however, contain bleaching activators, and will bleach at even 100F, so again the need to boil wash is not really needed. Pre-wash as part of the main wash ccyles is always "cold", but again the heater will come on to make sure the water is the proper "cold". Guess it is like Louis states, to make sure the water is not too cold. The maddening thing is the time heating adds to the cycle. Even on 220V it adds some time, and there are times one wishes to do a "quick wash". Again thankfully this is a timer controlled unit, so cycles are easy to modify. Like all Miele washers, washing results from this unit are excellent. The tumbling action is much gentler than other units one has seen, including laundromat SQ units, but it gets the job done. Neat thing about this washer is one can open the door up until the water level reaches a certian point. Of course the washer must not be spinning, but otherwise it is nice to be able to add an errant item. Did a wool sweater and hat on "Woolens" the other day, and was amazed by how much water was used. According to my Miele tech, water level on that cycle is nearly half way up the door! Delicates is a tad less at 1/3 up the door. L. | ||
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Post# 110301 , Reply# 29 2/17/2006 at 10:16 (6,636 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 110323 , Reply# 30 2/17/2006 at 13:41 (6,635 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Launderess, Have you tried the short cycles on this machine? It makes quite a difference when you use them. There is a table on page 42 of the manual (if you can open it, it seems to use quite a bit of memory when you do). Cottons 140F is 77 minutes instead of 118. Permanent Press 45 instead of 78 Delicates on short and 80*F is 40 minutes. All quite reasonable I think. | ||
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Post# 110329 , Reply# 31 2/17/2006 at 15:24 (6,635 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Yes, but...
Have read the manual cover to cover as it came with my machine. Only fly in the ointment is the fact cycle times printed are for 220v service. Have not checked to see how much longer (due to water heating) cycles are on 120v. Use mainly the "short" cycles so far for cottons, even delicates as again found them more than adequate for what I was laundering. Thanks for the tip though, keep sending those suggestions my way please. L. | ||
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Post# 110345 , Reply# 32 2/17/2006 at 20:13 (6,635 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 110347 , Reply# 33 2/17/2006 at 21:01 (6,635 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Yes, page "42". *LOL* Unlike what comes with today's washing machines, this Miele manual is quite through and easy to understand. You can read it for yourself by downloading at the following link: Search by model W1070 L. Am still amazed how so far nothing bothers this 250lb plus tank of a washing machine. So far not even one bounce of an out of balance load. Then again with over 200lbs of cast iron as a structural base, what can one expect? CLICK HERE TO GO TO launderess's LINK | ||
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