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Kenmore 800 dryer, which year.
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Post# 722130   12/20/2013 at 03:47 (3,779 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Today, I saw a Kenmore 800 dryer at a thrift store and it grabbed my attention as it had timed-drying only. I know it must be from the early 1960s but can someone give more details about this model. Were US 800 models similar back then or did they already have auto-dry?




Post# 722131 , Reply# 1   12/20/2013 at 03:48 (3,779 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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The model number tag.

Post# 722132 , Reply# 2   12/20/2013 at 03:49 (3,779 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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The old-style drum.

Post# 722133 , Reply# 3   12/20/2013 at 03:50 (3,779 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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A closer view at the timer.

Post# 722134 , Reply# 4   12/20/2013 at 03:53 (3,779 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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And another picture of the control panel. I think it looks rather nice but seems low on features... Is there a fluorescent behind this panel?

Post# 722142 , Reply# 5   12/20/2013 at 05:56 (3,779 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

One immediate difference between US and Canadian models of that time is that you did not see US Sears dryers with a side-swing door. Also note that it is rated at 6000 watts. That is possibly the "Hi Speed" feature of the dryer's Soft Heat. If it worked like newer electric Soft Heat models, it would have had two heating elements, one at higher wattage and one lower. The operating thermostat only cycled the higher wattage element so that heat was being supplied constantly and the drying temperature did not have the great dips that usual disc thermostats caused when they had a 15-20F swing between cycling off and cycling back on. A dryer that drew 6000 watts would have been hard on its circuit breaker over the years because 6000 watts is running right up against the limit of a 30 amp breaker. It won't trip it immediately, but over the life of the dryer, it can affect the temper of the metal in the breaker and cause it to start tripping for no reason involved with the dryer or the circuit so the breaker will have to be replaced.

I remember that control panel from the early 60s.


Post# 722143 , Reply# 6   12/20/2013 at 06:08 (3,779 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Screams 1964 model year to me!


Post# 722159 , Reply# 7   12/20/2013 at 08:04 (3,778 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Mark is right - 1964 model year for sure. Love the maple leaf next on the control panel!

Ben


Post# 722167 , Reply# 8   12/20/2013 at 09:51 (3,778 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

Which thrift store ?

I would like to pay her a visit. I don't want to buy it, just take a look at it.

thanks,



Post# 722195 , Reply# 9   12/20/2013 at 12:43 (3,778 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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It's in Sherbrooke... The store is called Estrie-Aide, 345 Wellington Sud. It's a been an interesting source for both myself and Phil over the years. I think they were asking $50 for this one...

Post# 722207 , Reply# 10   12/20/2013 at 13:35 (3,778 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Yes it totally seems like a 1964 model, except being from North of the Border we don't know for sure.

Post# 722208 , Reply# 11   12/20/2013 at 14:09 (3,778 days old) by HooverWheelAway ()        

I love the little maple leaf on it!

Post# 722211 , Reply# 12   12/20/2013 at 14:36 (3,778 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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I can't recall ever seeing that dryer. Anyone got copies of the Simpson catalogs..

Is the lint door missing or just needing reattaching?



Post# 722238 , Reply# 13   12/20/2013 at 19:22 (3,778 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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It's missing but I don't think these are very hard to find.

Post# 722244 , Reply# 14   12/20/2013 at 19:51 (3,778 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
That Maple Leaf is cool

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did all Canadian Kenmore products have the leaf??

 

 

 


Post# 722245 , Reply# 15   12/20/2013 at 19:56 (3,778 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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This style panel was first used in 1964 here in the states on the 64 LKM and on a KM 800. The 64 LKM was also built with a full electronic dry control system during 1965 with the same styling.

As Robert mentioned we don't know when this dryer was sold in Canada, it would not surprise me if it was built after we had this style here.

These were good solid durable and easy to repair dryers, but they were not all that fast, in fact the Hi-Speed designation would probably get them into trouble for false advertising today. Even a MT HOH dryer with only a 4800 watt heater would dry as fast as this dryer, as would a GE and most other dryers built during this time period.

John L.


Post# 722258 , Reply# 16   12/20/2013 at 22:33 (3,778 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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John, I have seen those 1964 Lady Kenmores with the electronic sensor built in 1965 in other threads but I don't remember all the details about them. Did some 800 series still had timed-dry only with one no heat settings in the States in 1964-1965?

Also, were the 1964 models produced in 1965 still fitted with the old-style drum or with the new style? I guess if they originally designed the sensor strips to be installed in the old-style drum, the design that requires brushes used in the early models like the one you and Jeff converted to electric would have made more sense!


Post# 722298 , Reply# 17   12/21/2013 at 06:28 (3,778 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

To my recollection the Canadian models were sometimes out of sync with those in the US, so this style may have been used later. If the Canadian Kenmore model numbers read the same way as their US counterparts, the two digits after the decimal point signify the model year. The numbers here appear to be a 68 which would mean this is a 1968 model.

Post# 773444 , Reply# 18   7/27/2014 at 15:41 (3,559 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

I found this picture that I took in the mid-eighties at my friend's aunt house. It was a Harvest Gold Kenmore dryer. Canadian model. Don't know which year, and also a picture of the inside, using a semi-fish eye lens.

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Post# 773448 , Reply# 19   7/27/2014 at 15:55 (3,559 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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There seems to be a big color difference between the top and the rest of the cabinet but no shading. Mid-late 1970s?

 

 

BTW, I just noticed that the 1964 Kenmore 800 I posted above has a "Start" button. Was that a upper series feature or was it featured across the Kenmore line? I know that my 1965 Inglis Superb dryer doesn't have a Start button. On the picture I took of the Kenmore 800, I can't see if there's an ozone light. I guess there's one but it looks like some lint is packed where it would be located. I was surprised to find that my almost-BOL Inglis had an ozone light. I guess that the drum light, ozone light and panel lights accounted for the $10 price difference between the BOL Liberator and the Superb. 

What about Kenmores and Whirlpools? Did most models have an ozone lamp back in the mid-1960s?


Post# 773458 , Reply# 20   7/27/2014 at 16:44 (3,559 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)        

Definitely 1964....

--Charles--


Post# 773460 , Reply# 21   7/27/2014 at 16:49 (3,559 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)        

I also think that there is a Full-Width Fluorescent Light inside that Panel.

--Charles--


Post# 773472 , Reply# 22   7/27/2014 at 18:16 (3,559 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

Maybe the top was porcelain enamel, and the cabinet is just paint.


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