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Thread Number: 50236
Samsung To Show Off World's Largest Washing Machine at CES 2014 |
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Post# 724634 1/2/2014 at 21:52 (3,764 days old) by logixx  (Germany) |
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Yup, the capacity war goes into the next round: Samsung's 5.3 cu.ft. front loader
laundry.reviewed.com/news/samsung... Picture: www.econovill.com/wp-content/uplo... | ||
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Post# 724635 , Reply# 1 1/2/2014 at 21:54 (3,764 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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and the top loader:
www.econovill.com/wp-content/uplo... I notice there's a dedicated cycle for waterproof items. And "Niagara Wash". | ||
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Post# 724695 , Reply# 2 1/3/2014 at 09:04 (3,764 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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And so the LG8000, once King of Capacity at 5.2 cu. ft., is now a down-and-out has-been. Oh, how the mighty has fallen. Yup...one minute you're the hottest washer at the party and then some jerk that can hold one more hand towel than you steals your thunder.
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Post# 724986 , Reply# 4 1/4/2014 at 09:47 (3,763 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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5.6 not 5.3 cu.ft | ||
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Post# 725044 , Reply# 6 1/4/2014 at 15:37 (3,763 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Thing Is
With large or very large capacity commercial front loaders those that are bolted into concrete do not have nor require suspensions. Those units can and will spin even the most unbalanced loads regardless. Domestic units and or those with suspensions are normally happiest on normal cycles with full or close to it loads. Otherwise spinning usually becomes a problem.
Suppose modern computer programming of domestic machines will enable various systems/parameters to deal with out of balanced loads and spinning... but still. Have seen persons at local Laundromat cram a twenty-five pound or more capacity washer with everything they own and no sorting. But honestly who has that much laundry on a routine basis? | ||
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Post# 725147 , Reply# 8 1/5/2014 at 04:35 (3,762 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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That's how all the HE top loaders work because they can't rearrange the load without water. The only exceptions were the Calypso and the Maytag Neptune TL. You'll find that your new front loader will have less problems with blankets balling up - though it might still be fussy about getting them balanced.
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Post# 725194 , Reply# 9 1/5/2014 at 10:36 (3,762 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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I find it interesting how press releases from Asian companies (at least to Asian audiences) are more humble than those from American companies. Can you imagine Whirlpool ending a press release by saying they will continue to work on their weaknesses?
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| Post# 725217 , Reply# 10 1/5/2014 at 11:56 (3,762 days old) by mrwash () | ||
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Is there.... ...a real demand for washers this big? I really can't imagine that a regular 3 person household will ever use the full capacity. | ||
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Post# 725230 , Reply# 11 1/5/2014 at 13:06 (3,762 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 725231 , Reply# 12 1/5/2014 at 13:09 (3,762 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Well, keep in mind, it claims it can wash a round about 4kg load in 30 minutes! With a tub,even bigger that that of our dryer (3.95 ft³)! | ||
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Post# 725233 , Reply# 13 1/5/2014 at 13:21 (3,762 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Using an 8KG is more than enough ...... | ||
| Post# 725291 , Reply# 14 1/5/2014 at 15:52 (3,762 days old) by liamy1 (-) | ||
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Samsung :( I would never buy a Samsung anything ever again. I have a 12kg eco bubble and the next visit from the engineer will be the 5th time. The machine is 7 months old. :( | ||
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Post# 725295 , Reply# 15 1/5/2014 at 16:03 (3,762 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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a real demand for washers this big
Sadly yes,
While the federal government and others are pushing front loaders onto Americans, many by and large have not changed laundry habits to resemble say Europeans who have had decades of experience. The idea of a "small" or "compact" 5kg/11lb washing machine is a horror to the majority of American laundry market. They are used to saving up the wash for days, or weeks on end, then dumping the lot into a top loader. Worse the long cycles for front loaders (which have grown even longer as energy restrictions have changed), means they will wait to get though wash day. Oh and despite they probably will wash their duvet on average once per year many Americans insist on washing machines able to handle "commercial" or "bulky" loads. Results for these large sort of machines on average have been less than thrilling. Many shake and or vibrate horribly mainly due to unbalanced loads. The loads are usually unbalanced because the 15lb capacity washer has problems dealing with the five or less pounds of laundry it is has to wash. This or you hear complaints about units taking ages to balance/distribute a load and or simply giving up and not spinning fully at all. | ||
| Post# 725313 , Reply# 18 1/5/2014 at 16:54 (3,762 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy) | ||
8kg still falls under a fairly small capacity right?
@liamy1... you scare me... should I be concerned? The warranty on my 8kg 1600rpm Hoover has expired just recently. I guess yours was a lemon... well, mine hasn't cracked yet and it's just over a year of age, however it's not as smooth when on spin as my other down-to-earth 6kg washer.
I'd also struggle to use a bigger machine than the 8kg... mainly because I tend to separate my laundry in many small loads: this enables me to do laundry 'little and often' without ever seing big piles in the hamper. I'll be willing to do a week worth of laundry all in one go only when manufacturers come up with a machine that can also fold your clothes and put them back in the wardrobe ;) | ||
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Post# 725358 , Reply# 20 1/5/2014 at 19:00 (3,762 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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This is a FALSE GIMMICK! Unless they are building the machine to commercial washer/extractor specs which I am sure is not close to being the case. There is NO WAY any current residential FL platform can repeatedly run this kind of load and not fail quickly. Please don't bring up SQ as we all know they ARE commercial washers dressed up for home use. I personally would NEVER trust a load that big to anything other than a true commercial laundry machine. WK78 | ||
| Post# 725455 , Reply# 21 1/6/2014 at 06:21 (3,761 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy) | ||
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Thanks liamy1
Thanks for you kind words. What a coincidence you're mentioning the Hoover Nextra FL... I have 1 of them and it's nearly 10 years old... it's never had even minor issues, however one can hear the worn bearings now... however it's still in use as is and works a charm.
The 8kg Dynamic is an addition to this washer... I could say that by using it, touching it and living it during this passed year, it doesn't feel any worse made than the older sister, however it seems more aggressive during its operation. Having said that, so far so good... fingers crossed ;) | ||
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Post# 725896 , Reply# 22 1/7/2014 at 16:57 (3,760 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Unless they are building the machine to commercial washer...
Exactly!
Unless the bearings and suspension are designed for a decent daily duty cycle at full capacity and cope with unbalanced loads it is likely this unit will be toast in Would also like to see if this machine like the short lived Miele 4xxx series is sold at once capacity but limited in daily use to another. Yes the Miele was a huge machine but you were supposed to only load it half or three-quarter full. What sort of nonsense is that? | ||
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Post# 725925 , Reply# 23 1/7/2014 at 18:50 (3,760 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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Thank you launderess! Glad to know you know the truth as well. I would say if someone wanted a large FL. a Wascomat Professional Hybrid machine and matching dryer would be the answer. They have been installing these @ the MN Women's Prison where I work and they are phenominal. I also hear the same thing from multiple Laundromat operators and my Ecolab rep. WK78 | ||
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Post# 727812 , Reply# 24 1/15/2014 at 09:25 (3,752 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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Sold the 8kg LG
its been replaced by an AEG 88730 it says its a 5.5 kg load but to only put in 5 for best results, and you know what? it suits me down to the ground I love it no more fussing trying to get balanced no more waiting 3 hours to do a 60 wash ok so its getting on as it was built in 2001 but its made in Germany where they do still make things to last I have put brand new brushes in and sealed the leak on the water valves and it hums along nicely there is not much to hear apart from the pump that drains it and that will get replaced when it dies.
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| Post# 727814 , Reply# 25 1/15/2014 at 09:27 (3,752 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Wascomat Professional Hybrid machine  | ||
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Post# 727835 , Reply# 26 1/15/2014 at 11:49 (3,752 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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I get puzzled by a number of issues.....for one, who does need a machine that damn big?.....any FL with a capacity of 3 to 4 cu ft is plenty enough for a regular load...even 4 is pushing it....matching dryers were around 7 cu ft, plenty of equal space...
and so some advertise that it can wash 18 pairs of Jeans, but no where is it agreed to have a dryer that can dry that exact load....for the most part, the dryer should be 2X the size of the washer..... most of these test loads of their claims, if you read the fine print, is an 8lb load....WTH is that?.....a machine costing close to $2000.00, with a huge 5 cu ft capacity, and can still only EFFECTIVELY wash a load no bigger than what my solidtub speed queen from the 60's can handle!.....and they want you to think your moving forward with technology! | ||
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Post# 727836 , Reply# 27 1/15/2014 at 11:53 (3,752 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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better yet.....check this one out.....can wash in 15 minutes, and dry in 14 minutes.....and the fine print again, tests based on the smallest possible load...a Haier portable machine can do that!...for way less than half the cost...
people will not wake up to EFFICIENT does not equal EFFECTIVE! and lets not get started on Longevity! CLICK HERE TO GO TO Yogitunes's LINK 
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| Post# 727854 , Reply# 28 1/15/2014 at 13:36 (3,752 days old) by DirectDriveDave () | ||
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These machines are so crazy now, they make me laugh! | ||
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Post# 727863 , Reply# 30 1/15/2014 at 14:35 (3,752 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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if you read the fine print, is an 8lb load....WTH is that? | ||
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