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Post# 725215   1/5/2014 at 11:47 (3,755 days old) by chanceskydiver (West Linton)        

Good evening to you

Recently was on eBay thanks to my good friend Chris, and came across a really old washer dryer from Bendix.
Went down and chatted to the couple who purchased house. They were in process of doing it up as was very old and dated plus very run down in need of restoration. Invited me in to see house what they done, and showed where machine was. And where they put it in the garage. It was covered up on top with large black bin bags Sellotape to it round and round and round again.
Sadly they cut waste pipe sliced and damaged 1 inlet hose black rubber tap was still attached to it though so was a bit annoyed about it but kept cool about it and didn't show too much upset/anger
But will need a full restoration to take place on her.
Will need a full clean and strip to bring her back to her former glory. As the original owner in house sadly passed away, and don't think kept too well as the machine is in poor state lint filter bag was full of fluff. Doesn't sound too good when turn by hand. Can someone give me help guidance please
Pictures to follow

Mike


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Post# 725235 , Reply# 1   1/5/2014 at 13:43 (3,755 days old) by chanceskydiver (West Linton)        

Now for picture when it was in service

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Picture 2

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Looking in

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Still looking in lol

Post# 725267 , Reply# 5   1/5/2014 at 14:57 (3,755 days old) by chanceskydiver (West Linton)        

Checking door seal

Post# 725293 , Reply# 6   1/5/2014 at 15:54 (3,755 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Great find

I remember seeing pictures that looked like this machine in Which? years ago.

Post# 725298 , Reply# 7   1/5/2014 at 16:08 (3,755 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Nice looking machine

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I love how bendix used SS drums over there! All we got was enamel on steel

 

Qualtex has spares left so I'd grab a new boot ASAP.

 

 


Post# 725303 , Reply# 8   1/5/2014 at 16:20 (3,755 days old) by Dimitris (greece)        
Great find!!!!

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Wish you will bring it back in life....

Post# 725304 , Reply# 9   1/5/2014 at 16:25 (3,755 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Wow, that stainless tub is awesome! I'm with Jon, wish we got that state side!

Post# 725307 , Reply# 10   1/5/2014 at 16:39 (3,755 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Congratulations

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I wondered who got that.

One of the best sources of information will be automaticwasher member ricky5050 who also has one of these machines which he got about 10 years ago.

Al



Post# 725359 , Reply# 11   1/5/2014 at 19:01 (3,755 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)        

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Is that widnes outside Warrington? How did I miss that. Only ten minutes drive for me. Great machine. Looks like fun

Post# 725443 , Reply# 12   1/6/2014 at 04:19 (3,754 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Bendix

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Glad you managed to collect it Mike, thought it was going down to Chris for you all to work on? Spares still available as Jon mentioned and as the bearings are imperial they can be sourced from suppliers as well, the hoses probably would need to be changed anyway, you can still get red and black hoses from suppliers (same as pneumatic, firmens hoses etc)these would have to be fitted onto the brass connections

I would say give it a good clean, does the drum sound rough like bearings are rough or is it making a catching noise? If you laid it on its side to move something could have slipped and moved, take the back off and check everything!!

Like Al and others have said, Ricky has a great example of a fully restored washer dryer but it takes effort and a lot of patience to get them up and running again!!

Heres a link to some of his threads!!


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Post# 725444 , Reply# 13   1/6/2014 at 04:21 (3,754 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Timer Thread

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Post# 727001 , Reply# 14   1/11/2014 at 16:06 (3,749 days old) by chanceskydiver (West Linton)        
Update

Dryer filter has been cleaned out completely as was bulging in a lot of fluff built up which would have caused it to go up in smoke, and put oil over pulley as was making a very loud noise when either distribute or spin mode. Put 2 jugs of water in machine to find out a seal gone somewhere going to investigate soon.
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Post# 727130 , Reply# 15   1/12/2014 at 05:53 (3,748 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
hello ! my discoveries

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Hello Mike and Chris

I thought id share my experiences with my machine if its any help to you. It might be a bit long winded and i hope not to teach you to suck eggs but here goes!

I think it may help to understand how these machines work to see if you can identify noises etc that are not normal.

This machine has one large motor that runs continously once switched on ( apart from a pause when the heater is on, and a 1 min pause before the final spin )
This motor drives a continuosly running pump at the front, and through a gearbox the drum and fan for the drying part. All of these are running all the time and solenoid shifters (electro magnets that move levers) are the only way the machine can change into spin or pump out or allow the dryer to function. There isnt any electronics on this machine (thankfully!)

Sources of noise

The drum bearings may be worn, to see if this is the case remove the drum to gearbox belt and spin drum, it should be silent, if theres a rumble the bearing may be worn, if you try pushing the drum up and down and theres no free play even with a rumble it will be fine to play with the machine for a while, if theres lots of movement id suggest caution in case the spin shakes the drum too much damaging the outer drum.

The gearbox needs oil. remove the small white dip stick on top and fill up with gearbox, ive found the correct oil ( see Pic) its a fidly job, ive found either plastic syringes or squeezy bottles hair dressers use to apply color are ideal, ( i can get you one of those free) the gearbox can burp and oil pops out of top. The level needs to be up to the marker on the dipstick.

The drive shafts from the gearbox are held on by grub screws that have allen key heads, they can loosen, wiggle the pulley left and right as you tighten them to ensure they sit sqaure on the shaft.

The solenoid shifters may need a light oil on the linkages, there are 3 on this machine, one on the gear box to the left of motor looking from rear this is what clicks in to move the machine into spin in one step ( no distribution or ramp up spin ) the second is on the front behind the pannel revealed when you pull down the flap at the front. This is on the pump, this machine re circulates water continously (unfortunately unseen) and the soleniod allows the water to be pumped out when needed. The third one is on to back of the drum nearer the top it opens a flap allowing air to move through when in drying mode.
Solenoid shifters need to move freely or can burn out but if they've stood idle for some time can chatter, the magnets that close together need to have clean smooth surfaces, clean them with fine wet n dry sand paper and wipe oil on them they should snap shut ( remember remove plug before going near machine!!) the noise they make is similar to a pair of hair clippers that are not adjusted correectly if you know what i mean?

The last soucre of noise is the drying fan, it runs continously and can make the machine noisy, remove the belt and try turning it should spin freely and take a while to slow down.

a few pics to follow

richard


Post# 727131 , Reply# 16   1/12/2014 at 05:55 (3,748 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
more pics

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rear view showing pulleys etc


Post# 727134 , Reply# 17   1/12/2014 at 06:05 (3,748 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
belts and gear box shifter

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the fan belt can be replaced with a car one if its the same width to fit the pulley groove or easily adjusted by unscrewing the idley pully in the centre and moving it into a new hole. The main drum belt is a bit more fidly and should be adjusted first, you need to acheive about one half inch free play at longest flattest part. to adjust you will see there is a clamp that holds to motor in place slacken the nut and bolt slightly so the motor will turn , then you will see a long nut with a rounded end as you turn this it will rotate the motor and gear box around either towards or away from the drum pulley, as the pulley from the gear box is on the right if the gear box moves down away from drum the drum belt will be tensioned more and like wise if it moves up it will be slackened. once your happy with the tension re tighten the clamp to hold it in place.


Post# 727135 , Reply# 18   1/12/2014 at 06:19 (3,748 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
get your top off!

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It would be worth removing the top also, this is easy when you know how, you need a thin steel ruler or even better the fish slice thingy that you use to turn over eggs in a frying pan etc, dont use a screw driver as it will chip enamel. in the centre of the gap between the top and front you will see a clip push the fish slice against that dont lever up just push slightly back, this will relase the top and it should pop up. lift it only a few inches and put you hand in to squeeze the flexible pipe that goes from soap powder shute to drum, this is tucked on top of drum and should pop out, they can be fragile and need to be water and air tight so be careful. Lift the lid off and slide towards you, there will be a green earth wire to remove as well. Mine suffered corrosion around this soap powder hole and needs to be air tight (see later) when the lid is off check all springs and hangers are tight, you will see the heater box on top of drum at left handside its worth hoovering the inlet end as this is where is sucked in and the mesh grill can get a layer of fluff on reducing the efficicney of the machine. to the right handside there is the water inlet a small tube sits above a funnel ( see vid ) this acts as an air brake to prevent syphoning, the nozzle of this tube should be wiped clean of limescale etc as the scale can cause the water to spray in all angles and perhaps on electrics.

 

Replacing the lid is a bit trickier as you have to remove the plastic soap hole cover and fit from top. Ill explain later



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Post# 727411 , Reply# 19   1/13/2014 at 13:26 (3,747 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Mike and Chris.
Congratulations on securing the machine for your collections - an absolute classic from the 1960's and the design basis for many a dolls house!
Indeed, pop over to ebay again and secure yourselves a miniature version of the real thing. If you are mystified as to what I am on about, just search for 'Lundby washing machine' and you will see what I mean....


Post# 727412 , Reply# 20   1/13/2014 at 13:29 (3,747 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
re the restoration...

if I can turn the machine on the left into the machine on the right, then you will be able to work wonders with your LT...

Post# 727415 , Reply# 21   1/13/2014 at 13:33 (3,747 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
....though it will take time and effort!

The end results will be fantastic and it is great that there are now two of this classic machine in preservation.
To help you along the way I will post you some pages to help you along the way...

(been meaning to post these pages for ages Ricky - if you haven't had sight of them before, then hopefully they will be useful for you too, though I am sure that by now you know your LT like the back of your hand)


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That's your lot for tonight.

Will post the rest of the manual progressively throughout the week.

Paul


Post# 727461 , Reply# 54   1/13/2014 at 15:11 (3,747 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        
Fantastic thread

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This is great. Well done Mike on this. I can sympathise about the hoses as I have a penchant for original rubber hoses - none of those grey plastic hoses for me it I can help it. Good luck with the restoration.

Ricky - that's a lovely machine and I'm amazed at the simplistic complexity of it. How did you manage to work it out without the manual? Brilliant.

Paul - fantastic service manual - looking forward to seeing more of that and another machine with retractable casters.

S :)


Post# 727468 , Reply# 55   1/13/2014 at 15:26 (3,747 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
Hi thanks

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My machine came with original instructions and delivery installation instructions. I got the workshop manual Paul has kindly posted a few years ago. I was going to try and find a good old fashioned photo copier as scanning and uploading is a faff the way my pic works. I never thought of taking pictures ! Well done ! My machine had not been used and sat in a pantry for 35 years ! So it was easier to bring it back to life. Mainly adjustments and lubrication. It's only needed a new belt and a timer as the timer motor seized , I got a good second hand one. The soap hole has corroded a bit but that's it. It's my daily machine. These are beasts with very strong heavy structures !

Post# 728468 , Reply# 56   1/18/2014 at 06:17 (3,742 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
Leaky filter ?

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Hi I fb messaged Chris to see how things were going with the machine and he said it leaked around the filter. Mine did the same. But it's easily fixed. Remove the filter and clean the aluminum hole with fine sand paper. Clean the rubber gasket too. You will see on the filter tray a nut undo this slightly and turn the screw this adjusts the pressure against the locking clamp. Once you feel it's nice and tight and stopped leaking tighten the nut. This machine has so many little extra engineering things like this that make it nice to work on

Richard


Post# 728469 , Reply# 57   1/18/2014 at 06:18 (3,742 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
Filter

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Filter tray

Post# 728473 , Reply# 58   1/18/2014 at 06:50 (3,742 days old) by recyclewasher ()        
WoW it looks almost like

New,
The filter tray and the rubber gasket. I am really enjoying this thread as I have a 57 Bendix combo also under restoration and has almost identical internal features.
I did a total strip down too- glad I did as when I cleaned the aluminum rectangular filter tray - I unbolted it from the tub I saw the internal pitting where the pressed feet of the metal screen filter would rest / touch the aluminum tray housing- galvanic corrosion I suppose. Holes went straight through to the exterior, also had big pits at the round section where the pump hose connects to it.
Anyway I was able to fix the corrosion with a dremel tool and burr and some JB weld.

Where do you guys go for the lint filter housing screw rubber washers/ door gaskets/ soap dispenser rubber?

Keep the pics coming


Post# 728675 , Reply# 59   1/19/2014 at 04:34 (3,741 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
Hi recycle washer

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Thanks I've so far been lucky with my bendix it's not needed any new rubber , I do have an old model d that needs a bit more work though. I think new door seals can be got from qualtex a door seal manufacturer and we've found a appliance spare part supplier that has a huge stock of older parts.

Good luck with the restoration. I look forward to seeing the pics !!

Here's a snapshot of another project of mine waiting to start!

Link to thread attached

Richard


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Post# 728817 , Reply# 60   1/19/2014 at 16:55 (3,741 days old) by statomatic (France)        
Awesome machine !

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Hi, very nice machine, it looks very well built.

I'd be really curious to know how the electrical circuits are made on that one.


Post# 729345 , Reply# 61   1/21/2014 at 12:16 (3,739 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi guys.
Apologies for the delay in posting more servicing manual pages - here we go!


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that's all for tonight - will post the rest over the coming days.
Paul


Post# 739165 , Reply# 83   3/4/2014 at 06:10 (3,697 days old) by recyclewasher ()        
Hey Ricky5050…!!!!!

Thanks for the qualtex headsup, i sent a message using my iphone but i havent received any response from Qualtex yet, probably try them again using a desktop this week.

What tool do you use to loosen and tighten the front door hinge studs to the front panel. I'm referring to the ones with the splines on the outer edge in my pic? I was lucky that they were not seized up and was easy to unbolt when using a vice grip, but i want to use the correct tool to tighten them and not strip the splines using the vice grip method, was some type of aircraft speciality tool involved here? I read somehere that those speciality screws have a distinct name, think it starts with a g? But i haven't got any internet feedback on the tool used or who stocked it or a pic of what it looks like but i assume it would be like a box wrench with internal splines

And what substitute gasket material do you guys use for the front door vent shroud that connects to the front panel? The original looked like some type of "asbestos " square cross section white gasket that disintegrates when wet but needs to seal to prevent the hot air from leaking out the front?

Wonder why matchboxpaul suddenly stopped with the service manual pics?
Right in the middle of the movie he cuts to a commercial. Leaves us hanging… LoL

Btw, the zinc overspray on the hinges is temporary ,sort that out when i finally start tackling the rusty portions of the bottom drip tray later



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