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How long does your dishwasher take?

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Post# 729055 1/20/2014 at 13:12 (3,742 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)
Checkrate/Likes Hi guys Don't know if we have had a thread about this before but was curious to see how long most people's dishwashers take to do a full cycle on a normal 65degree wash I timed mine today and it took 58 minutes from start. Is this the average? I do have mine connected to a hot feed as my boiler is two feet away. Here's my ten year old hotpoint that's never broke. Touch wood

Post# 729060 , Reply# 1 1/20/2014 at 13:42 (3,742 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))
Checkrate/Likes Bosch 45cm range Ex-TOL-Modell; 2 kWh heater; Auto cycle 55�-65�(actually, this dishwasher does not have any other cycle that you could call "Normal", so this is used 97% of all loads) between 1:45h and 2:30h on worst case soil level sensed. Cold feed only, by the way. The Intesive 70� is about 2:10h (used for backing trays and the real heavy soiled loads), the ECO 50� (used about 10 times a year)is in the 3h range. With VarioSpeed, the cycletimes decrease to 1:15h and 1:50h on Auto, 1:45h on Intesive and 1:30 on Eco (this cycle is perfect if you need your dishes quick but clean as it washes at about 55-60� and uses a lot of water, but we don't need it that often). The Fast 45� cycle takes 38-45min, depending on load, but was only used 3 times in 3 years now...

Post# 729062 , Reply# 2 1/20/2014 at 13:50 (3,742 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)
Checkrate/Likes Omg that's really long. This is one of the things that has put me off buying a new machine. It seems ridiculous having to wait over two hours for dishes to be cleaned. Mine come out spotless every time. It's only the rare occasion I have had to re wash and that's been my fault for not loading the machine properly. My machine works off the hot feed cos I forgot to buy a Y connector and over time I just left it

Post# 729068 , Reply# 3 1/20/2014 at 14:04 (3,742 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))
Checkrate/Likes We have no problem with that at all as we turn on the machine at 7 o'clock in the morning, and when I return at 2 o'clock in the afternoon, it is finished. Surley, with hot water connected, it would take shorter, but I don't know if the Auto load sensors will work further at hot water connection!

Post# 729078 , Reply# 4 1/20/2014 at 14:45 (3,742 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))
Checkrate/Likes *My Whirlpool.* Will complete a normal wash with high temp selected (60c) in about 50 minutes. Heating times are short because the water heater is only a few feet away. WK78

Post# 729081 , Reply# 5 1/20/2014 at 15:01 (3,742 days old) by logixx (Germany)
Checkrate/Likes Surley, with hot water connected, it would take shorter, but I don't know if the Auto load sensors will work further at hot water connection! There's a Hot Water option on current Bosch dishwashers (the European ones) but it'll only decrease the cycle time slightly. 2 to 9 minutes - that's it and drying is extended as the DW relies on cold water for the condensation drying cycle.

Post# 729084 , Reply# 6 1/20/2014 at 15:06 (3,742 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))
Checkrate/Likes Oh, OK. Didn't know about that! But I more thought of the load sensing routine which uses the temperature increase per time during the heating stage to measure the size of the load. Is this affected by either the hot water option or a standard hot water hook-up?

Post# 729086 , Reply# 7 1/20/2014 at 15:08 (3,742 days old) by washman (o)
Checkrate/Likes 1 *3 hours* Normal load in my eco-sanctioned GE

Post# 729090 , Reply# 8 1/20/2014 at 15:21 (3,742 days old) by DADoES (TX,�U.S. of A.)
Checkrate/Likes � Defaults are 38 mins shortest cycle, 132 mins longest.� Actual times on a cold fill are a little longer but I don't pay attention to it so can't say how much longer.

Post# 729095 , Reply# 9 1/20/2014 at 15:33 (3,742 days old) by ptcruiser51 (Boynton Beach, FL)
Checkrate/Likes *BOL Frigidaire* But it's still a "tall-tub" that holds a lot. 2008 model. I have timed it to be about 90 min. for "heavy-duty" cycle, 60 min. for "normal" and 45 min. for "light". I do not rinse, just scrape and load. I use store-brand detergent with a little boost of STPP. Never use heated dry, as I usually run the machine when I go to bed. Everything air-dried in the ayem. OK, if it's something nasty-ass like a burnt-on pasta casserole or greasy roast pan, I'll soak for awhile in regular sink detergent and hot water. Then scrape, dump, and load. Done.

Post# 729107 , Reply# 10 1/20/2014 at 16:04 (3,742 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)
Checkrate/Likes Scrape the plates before you put them in? I've never done that ever I leave all sorts on lol. Never had to clean the filter either as it's self cleaning. Think I touched lucky with my machine. I know it uses just on 23 litres of water for a cycle as I have a water meter under my sink and I was curious how much it used as some newer models claim to use 7 litres a whole cycle

Post# 729113 , Reply# 11 1/20/2014 at 16:28 (3,742 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))
Checkrate/Likes We are at 9-15l per cycle, at something arround 1kWhish, I guess/think/hope...

Post# 729125 , Reply# 12 1/20/2014 at 16:59 (3,742 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)
Checkrate/Likes Scrape the plates before you put them in? I've never done that ever I leave all sorts on lol. Never had to clean the filter either as it's self cleaning. Think I touched lucky with my machine. I know it uses just on 23 litres of water for a cycle as I have a water meter under my sink and I was curious how much it used as some newer models claim to use 7 litres a whole cycle

Post# 729129 , Reply# 13 1/20/2014 at 17:24 (3,742 days old) by washer111 ()
Checkrate/Likes *My Machine:* F&P DishDrawer (DD60DCX6) Connected to a 50ºC (120ºF) Solar-Heated water supply. I always run the tap hot before the Main-Wash and First rinse to ensure we save $18 a year on electricity, while spending $1-2 more on water (so we really save $20 of power, but the water cancels that out). Shortest cycle is 33 minutes, longest is 124. I've found though that the Fast, Normal and Heavy cycles don't run pre-determined times, and seem to shave several minutes off here and there, so Heavy (124 minutes or Eco at 120) lose 10-15 minutes every cycle, bringing it down to 109. Of course, if I had a frigid cold connection, I reckon some cycles would be extended. How much by, I don't know. Fan drying time is 30 minutes for everything EXCEPT Fast. However, our Daily-Driver cycle is "Delicates," due to the 3rd rinse. This takes exactly 60 minutes when you cancel and flash dry. I've never timed it and found it to be longer. The Main-Wash is at 50º and lasts 26.5 minutes. Two 5-8 minute rinses, then a 15 minute rinse reaching 60ºC (140ºF). To somewhat properly answer the question, the closest to a 60º cycle we have is Heavy Eco, which lasts 80 minutes when I cancel when drying starts. Main-Wash at 65ºC (150ºF), two 10-15 minute rinses then final rinse at 60ºC. Only 1 out of 4 users seldom-rinses, I never rinse (barely scrape) and the same with others. The machine, with the top of the Drain-Filter missing, keeps the filter mostly clean, and gobbles up things like Rice and Pasta, even without a disposer. Used on Heavy with a Fairy Tablet (with Phosphates), the machine will NEVER disappoint. Its one heckuva dishwasher :-)

Post# 729154 , Reply# 14 1/20/2014 at 18:59 (3,742 days old) by logixx (Germany)
Checkrate/Likes Bosch from 2009, cold fill. Inital time displayed in hrs./ with speed mode / with sanitize / with extra wash for the lower basket Intensive 70C: 2:15 / 1:30 / + 0:05 / + 0:05 auto 45-65C: 2:30 / 1:19 / + 0:10 / + 0:10 Eco 50C: 2:55 / 1:27 / + 0:10 / + 0:10 Intensive Eco 45C: 2:15 / 1:30 / + 0:05 / + 0:05 Fast 65C: 1:00 There are also Half Load and Extra Dry options but I rarely use them. The eco + speed cycle is usually 20 minutes shorter and the Fast cycle is five minutes faster than initially displayed. The Intensive cycles + speed change the water five times, which is nice.

Post# 729214 , Reply# 15 1/21/2014 at 00:44 (3,742 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)
Checkrate/Likes The DW in my apt. is a Frigidaire that's less than a year old. It replaced a BOL Kenmore branded GE that finally gave up the ghost after probably at least 20 yrs of service. I couldn't stand it when I moved in but had to put up with it since that's what was here. Hated the way it loaded and had trouble getting some things into it. It's run time was about 45 min. and only did a ok job. The Frigidaire is a tall tub and one of those confounded dual arm machines that switch from one to the other while running. It does load easier and holds more than the old machine. It does use less water than the old machine. Downfall is that it takes 2 - 2 1/2 hours to complete a normal cycle. The machine is a lot quieter than the old Kenmore and I've adapted to it. I just start it before going to bed and it's all done when I wake up.

Post# 729222 , Reply# 16 1/21/2014 at 02:18 (3,741 days old) by dj-gabriele ()
Checkrate/Likes I have two: a BOL Indesit DI623 (12 plate settings) that only has 4 cycles and it needs 72 minutes for the normal cycle, up to 2 hours for the intensive one and 2:20 for the ECO cycle, the fouth cycle is a separate prewash/rinse that only takes 10 minutes. A TOL SMEG LSP1449N (14 plate settings) that has 9 cycles. I actually only use three/four of them: the daily cycle without prewash lasts 85 minutes, normal with prewash lasts 90 minutes, quick is 45 minutes, intensive with sani-rinse is 95 minutes and "super" with sani-rinse and prewash is 110 minutes, then there is the infamous ECO/BIO normative cycle that lasts 3 hours (of course I must say I never use it!). Even if I could use the hot water connection I hooked up both machines to cold water as the savings are negligible given my current costs and small water use (in total 18 for the Indesit, 13 for the SMEG) and cycle times will decrease only around 10 minutes. Luckily in my machines drying is not influenced by the incoming water temperature as the SMEG has fan assisted drying and the other is a natural condensation model and no water is loaded in the drying phase.

Post# 729224 , Reply# 17 1/21/2014 at 02:47 (3,741 days old) by washer111 ()
Checkrate/Likes Whilst the savings are negligible when connected to hot water, it sure helps to extent the life of the heating element. Rather than heating from 15ºC (60ºF) for example, you are now heating from around 30-35ºC (86-95ºF) after the water has entered the machine and cooled down. This reduces the amount of time the heater works, hence extending its life and the electrical components that supply it. On machines with Pre-Wash that are connected to Hot water, you'll end up with a final temperature much closer to that of your target temperature. If I use the Normal Eco cycle at 40ºC (Which I never do. Same washing time as Normal, but colder), the machine will skip the heating phase in the Final Rinse (and only heat about 2-3 minutes in the wash time), as the temperature is already enough. Its done this when I've used Delicates-Eco for daily loads too (Only in the Final Rinse, as our "Hot" inlet isn't enough to get boost the temperature in the machine more than around 10º when "Cold starting"). Sometimes I have to be careful when using the very Hot Heavy cycle - as the Hot inlet prevents the water cooling enough to "activate" the heater in the Final Rinse, especially if I run the tap for each rinse, as they are longer on Heavy. The If the machine senses a temperature within 5ºC of the target when entering that rinse, heating is skipped and the machine dumps the rinse-aid, runs a little longer then drains/dries. However, if I follow the usual regime I described above, it generally isn't much of a problem, as the tub cools just enough to enable the heated rinse.

Post# 729227 , Reply# 18 1/21/2014 at 03:13 (3,741 days old) by mieleforever (SOUTH AFRICA)
Checkrate/Likes *Siemenes here* and on the 50degree celcius cycle it takes about 155 minutes, but that also varies I have noted, I think it has something to do with the watersoftner, for if the salt indicator is lit, it will add a few mintues. But we have never had any problems with that machine and is now on it's 7th year. We just load it at the end of the day and switch it on before we go to bed. Next day everything is clean. It is a realy tough machine, touch wood. Cheers

Post# 729229 , Reply# 19 1/21/2014 at 03:24 (3,741 days old) by matthewza (Cape Town, South Africa)
Checkrate/Likes *Basic LG* We have a basic LG LD-2120WH with 4 cycles - auto, eco, quick, prewash. Auto senses the soil, but never under an hour, includes a 30 min dry at the end, and average time is about 1hr30mins and that's a 70degree wash on a cold feed. Only use this cycle when there is quite a few heavily soiled pots and pans. Here in SA cold water comes out the tap at about 25C so it doesn't take washers and dishwashers long to heat up eco is a 65C wash that takes 2hr25mins. We hardly use this wash because its so long, but also includes 30mins dry time Quick is a 34min 70C wash. Does a great job all the time even on pots and pans so we use that cycle 90% of the time. No dry time on this cycle but the final rinse is a heated rinse, as are all final rinses on all cycles on this dishwasher Prewash is an 18min rinse off. Have never had the need for this cycle.

Post# 729273 , Reply# 20 1/21/2014 at 05:41 (3,741 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)
Checkrate/Likes Our Maytag is: Light Wash: 80 minutes. Normal Wash: 2:00 Heavy Duty Wash: 2:45 We use normal wash most of the time, but even the light wash is no slouch.

Post# 729333 , Reply# 21 1/21/2014 at 10:24 (3,741 days old) by mwb (Missouri)
Checkrate/Likes Miele PG 8080i ProSpeed - 17 minutes Universal - 32 minutes Pots and Pans - 43 minutes Those are the cycles I've used so far. This is a professional/commercial machine hooked up to 220V. Heater rated at 4.2 Kilowatts.

Post# 729341 , Reply# 22 1/21/2014 at 11:42 (3,741 days old) by logixx (Germany)
Checkrate/Likes Nice! These circulate 50 gal. a minute. Must be quite a water show in there.

Post# 729342 , Reply# 23 1/21/2014 at 11:58 (3,741 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO)
Checkrate/Likes *2009 Kitchen Aid* About 2.5 hours from start to finish, for Heavy Duty Cycle with water heating including dry cycle. One must scrape, rinse, and anything nasty must be fairly well cleaned before loading or it doesn't come out clean. We use "Finish" because when using store brands, many items not clean. Previously had Whirlpool, was fabulous.

Post# 729383 , Reply# 24 1/21/2014 at 12:53 (3,741 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)
Checkrate/Likes *Depending on soil level* 2013 Kitchenaid. 1 hr cycle 59 minutes--dry adds 20 minutes. Light wash--50 minutes Normal cycle Average 90 minutes with sani-wash, no heated dry Heavy wash--2hrs ish with sani-wash- no heated dry Pro-scrub option adds about 20 minutes to Normal or Heavy wash, not available on Light or 1 hr wash Just scrape, never prewash, always everything comes out clean. I have been extremely happy with this machine.

Post# 729384 , Reply# 25 1/21/2014 at 12:54 (3,741 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)
Checkrate/Likes *2012 Hoover Dynamic* Hi robliverpool, I'd say that less than an hour for a normal everyday cycle is, by modern European standards, below average. Good to know that it still cleans and dries well in such a short time! The Hoover dishwasher has all cycle lengths... these are obtainable by tweaking the various options... yet my favourite is the 1 hour and 10 minutes daily program at 55 degrees or the 1 hour and a half 65 degree (both with cold prewash). If there's still room left inside it, and I want to set it to go anyhow, I'd then opt for the 55 minutes cycle at 55 degrees. The shortest program is a 30 minute complete cycle, but I never use it. I always set the dishwasher before I get to bed to start an hour before I rise and shine... then, I open the door in the morning before going to work and I leave the unloading job for someone else to do ;-)

Post# 729389 , Reply# 26 1/21/2014 at 13:23 (3,741 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)
Checkrate/Likes Mine takes between 80 and 120 minutes, depending on the cycle and how dirty the plates are as mine is a sensor machine so it changes the cycle accordingly.

Post# 729393 , Reply# 27 1/21/2014 at 13:40 (3,741 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)
Checkrate/Likes I had an AEG �ko Favorit in the past. That dishwasher did the normal cycle at 65*C in 78 minutes. Now I have a Miele G4210SC. It has a Turbo button, that speeds up the cycles. Automatic cycle: 2.29 with Turbo: 1.41 Glass 1.52 with Turbo: 0.39 Eco 3.00 Turbo not available Light soil 1.40 with Turbo: 1.27 Pots and pans 2.48 with Turbo: 2.06 I often use the Automatic cycle without the Turbo function. I don't use the dishwasher every day since I'm living alone. Often I turn the machine on after dinner, open it later in the evening and let the dishes dry overnight.

Post# 729509 , Reply# 28 1/21/2014 at 23:39 (3,741 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)
Checkrate/Likes My Blanco (Beko) dishwasher takes just 1 hour on the Daily cycle which runs at 60 degrees celcius. I use this cycle the most but on occasion usually after hefty cooking or if we have taken a long time to load the dishwasher I will run it on Intensive 70 degrees which takes 2:16. The Half Load function cuts a bit of time off the cycles but not much. It also eliminates the pre rinse on the Intensive cycle. This dishwasher is one of the best I have ever used. Very rarely do I have to re-wash anything even after being loaded by my less than careful partner lol.. Matt

Post# 729565 , Reply# 29 1/22/2014 at 07:56 (3,740 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)
Checkrate/Likes Thanks guys for all your replies. It's great to see all the various times our machines take. Very impressed with the times on the miele but being such a high end machine I wouldn't expect anything less.

Post# 729595 , Reply# 30 1/22/2014 at 10:39 (3,740 days old) by dj-gabriele ()
Checkrate/Likes If you want an even faster machine seek for the SMEG STP374 (built-in) or LP364X (free standing). That is not a commercial machine but a "stronger" and more powerful domestic model. It can do a complete pots&pans cycle in only 16 minutes if used with three-phase electric supply! And still manages A++ energy class! I definitely want one :D

Post# 729650 , Reply# 31 1/22/2014 at 16:05 (3,740 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)
Checkrate/Likes My circa 2003 Bosch takes around 2hrs 10mins to complete an "Auto Superwash". The machine is connected to hot water, but the water is usually cool as it is at the furthest end of the plumbing. I don't usually use the other programmes; I like decent rinses between washing and drying. Auto Superwash has a mainwash, 2 intermediate rinses, a final rinse and drying as standard. Automatic pre-wash might kick in if the computer says so, according to soiling.

Post# 729670 , Reply# 32 1/22/2014 at 17:05 (3,740 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)
Checkrate/Likes *Dishwasher times* I have had my fully integrated Indesit DI450 9 Place Dishwasher since 2006 & it has never let me down. It has always washed great. Normal wash time is 1:33 but i tend to use the rapid & dry programme that will wash & dry the load in only 44 minutes.

Post# 729788 , Reply# 33 1/22/2014 at 23:25 (3,740 days old) by ultramatic52 (Mexico City)
Checkrate/Likes *Electrolux Wave Touch Dishwasher* Mine takes about 2:30 hrs or a little bit less. It depends on the water temperature on each fill.

Post# 729813 , Reply# 34 1/23/2014 at 02:32 (3,739 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)
Checkrate/Likes *Miele high end machine* Well, sort of. It's a Miele, but a BOL one. I bought it for 600 euros. Louie, Do you have a picture of your Elux dishwasher?

Post# 730297 , Reply# 35 1/24/2014 at 23:18 (3,738 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)
Checkrate/Likes I have a 2006 Miele G2830. It was actually sold in Germany in 2004 so I guess I am using 10 year old DW technology. The machine has a lot of cycles but I tend to use 4 the most. Listed in order of use: Water Saver: This cleans my every day soil and is a wash, two rinses, and dry. It takes about 1 hour 36 minutes. It does not use a soil sensor but it does sense the size of the load and adjusts the amount of water taken in each fill. I wash dishes every other day and I don�t pre rinse and this cycle cleans it all very well. Sensor Wash: I use this for more heavily soiled loads. This uses the soil sensor, and load size sensor so the time for this varies. The prewash, main wash and first rinse time varies and it may add another rinse before doing the final rinse followed by dry. The time for cycles is between 1 hour 36 minutes and 2 hours 12 minutes. Water temps are between 104F and 150F for the wash depending on soil amount and type and the last rinse is always at 150F. Cheese: This is for burned on cheese mainly on plates and the baking casserole. This consists of a longer heated prewash, a 170F main wash followed by 2 rinses and dry. Times are between 2 hours 19 minutes and 2 hours 27 minutes depending on incoming water temperature. Quick wash: I use this for lightly soiled glasses, plates, and small loads. Main wash two rinses. Takes 23 minutes.

Post# 754998 , Reply# 36 5/5/2014 at 04:10 (3,637 days old) by Bob (Maywood, New Jersey)
Checkrate/Likes 1 *YOU ALL ARE LUCKY* I have a new Kenmore, and it runs for over three (3) hours, and we essentially wash our dishes and silverware before they go in the machine. We prewash because the dishwasher doesn't do a good job of cleaning. I cannot believe this piece of junk is "energy efficient" when it runs for 3 hours and 10 minutes. Last Kenmore appliance for me.

Post# 755124 , Reply# 37 5/5/2014 at 18:36 (3,637 days old) by Bob (Maywood, New Jersey)
Checkrate/Likes 1 *UPDATE TO MY NOTE ABOVE* I translated my 3 hour washtime into MONEY ($), and we are not going to use our dishwasher until the industry fixes this INSANITY. These dishwashers have the SMARTWASH FUNCTION, yet it is the dumbest thing that I could have ever envisioned. Any dishwasher that runs 90-180 minutes is NOT your friend. I had a three (3) hour runtime with clean dishes. Are these companies in collusion with the utilities? Think about this. Dishwashers never took so long. Commercial dishwashers, today, wash the dishes in 2-4 minutes. I remember working for a restaurant when I was a kid, and one of my duties was, you guessed it, washing the dishes. Back then it took maybe 10 minutes. Some of today's smaller machines might draw 4-6 times the electricity, but they finish in as little as two minutes. The focus on these machines is sanitation (#1) and clean (#2), but believe me when I say they do a good job of getting the dishes clean. There has to be a much happier medium than these clowns (the manufacturing companies) are currently producing. Personally, and in the sake of GREEN, the cost to run these junk machines has doubled or quadrupled and YOU are the benefactor. As for me and my wife, we just purchased a dish rack and will be using more high-end paper plates. Please don't be a dupe. Don't worry about the time. Worry about the much higher cost in electricity that these "feel good" names (smart wash) are costing you. You will be surprised if you take the time I did in looking at this. Leaving your coffee pot on after brewing is another major no-no. My darling, my dearest, now brews her coffee, turns off the pot, and pours it into our $24.95 EMSA 19 hour carafe from Amazon.

Post# 755133 , Reply# 38 5/5/2014 at 19:37 (3,637 days old) by Mich (Hells Kitchen - New York)
Checkrate/Likes 1 *I hope you realize..* On these newer Dishwashers that take longer to wash dishes, The Water Pump uses significantly less power & energy to operate, as well as much less water (to fill up with). And Since there's less water, there is less water for the heating element to heat up, plus, there's even less water being drawn from your Hot Water heater, meaning even less of an electric bill. They do take more time (because there washing one rack at a time) but, I can attest, they are saving money. Probably about 10-20 cents worth a load, vs previous machines.

Post# 755149 , Reply# 39 5/5/2014 at 20:48 (3,637 days old) by washer111 ()
Checkrate/Likes 1 *Also Hope You Realise...* Comparing consumer to residential machines is an Apple - Oranges case. Commercial dish-machines DO NOT wash the dishes. They "wash" the dishes - all the dishes are pre-rinsed, to save detergent, and to prevent water soiling. Those machines exist to sanitise dishes I agree with the comments made about water/pump sizes above - considering each fill on a machine now uses 1/2 or even just a 1/4 of traditional levels, pumps are at least 50% smaller, more so for conversational measures with low fills/alternating wash-arms. Less water needs a smaller pump, smaller heater to work (again, where a 700w heater was inadequate with large fills, it is now very adequate!). But less water needs more time to wash effectively, as there is less volume, but more scrubbing taking place. And unless you re-use your grey-water to wash dishes, or refuse to use enough water to wash properly (which is far more than ANY machine will EVER use), then you aren't doing your dishes properly. Hand-Washing Requires: ~ Pre-Scraping, with water if using a disposer. Then Pre-Rinsing ~ Fill the sink with Hot water + detergent. Several water changes throughout washing to ensure the water remains clean ~ Thorough rinsing of ALL articles, to prevent ingestion of detergents and harsh chemicals ~ Then a thorough cleaning of pots/pans - maybe overnight soaking, and extra filth waiting when you arise again ~ Clean sink after use This involves lots of water. The dishwasher saves all that water and extra effort AND the incredible wastage of Paper/Plastic plates. If you're concerned about cycle times, get a vintage machine. There are plenty of them around and most can be had for a good price, plus some minor maitenance (cleaning, descaling). Sell the dishwasher to someone who wants it, for a good price. Easy.

Post# 755222 , Reply# 40 5/6/2014 at 08:45 (3,636 days old) by logixx (Germany)
Checkrate/Likes This is from our latest consumer magazine's dishwasher test. It gives power, water and time consumption values for the tested cycles (Eco, Sensor and a fast cycle for capable of washing a full load). Bosch Eco: 3:19 hrs. - 0.69 kWh Eco + Speed Perfect: 1:07 hrs. - 1.36 kWh Miele Eco: 3:19 hrs. - 0.81 kWh Eco + Turbo: 1:31 hrs. - 1.25 kWh

Post# 755238 , Reply# 41 5/6/2014 at 11:56 (3,636 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains )
Checkrate/Likes Mich they might save you money on heating the water or using water.BUT these new machines don't last like the old ones not even close.My Brothers Whirlpool runs for 5 hours this just runs the machines in the ground.When you add it up replacing a dishwasher every 4 years instead of 15+ years like they used to.I think in the long run it costs more because, more of them are going to the dump.I am talking about normal price dishwasher's Miele is a different story.I have a K-Aid KDS-21 and a KDS-20 and the normal wash cleans great on them and is done in less than a hour.

Post# 755245 , Reply# 42 5/6/2014 at 12:34 (3,636 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)
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Post# 755422 , Reply# 43 5/7/2014 at 09:27 (3,635 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)
Checkrate/Likes *My Whirlpool tall tub* isn't BOL, but it's certainly far from TOL. It's from 2005, so it's over 9 yrs old now. I always use pots & pans because it rinses twice instead of once. I use hi-temp wash, no heated dry, and it's about 90 minutes.......I think normal wash is 70 minutes with no heated dry. It also has light wash and rinse only but I've never used those so I dunno. I never use heated dry because the dishes are almost dry if I open the machine right away after it's done and let them dry for about 30 min's.

Post# 755564 , Reply# 44 5/7/2014 at 20:12 (3,635 days old) by super32 (Blackstone Massachusetts)
Checkrate/Likes *Only a Bosch here* About 2-1/2 to 3hrs on the auto cycle depending on soil level and time of year. It cleans very well, but usually turn it on and go on to something else.

Post# 756252 , Reply# 45 5/11/2014 at 07:07 (3,631 days old) by Hoover1100 (U.K.)
Checkrate/Likes *My 12 year old Hotpoint DWF31* Takes 90s mins to complete a normal wash. Btw Robliverpool the dishwasher you have pictured at the top of the thread is at least 14 years old, as the model I have replaced this in late 2000/2001. It could be up to 17 years old as they were introduced around 1997. Matt

Post# 756314 , Reply# 46 5/11/2014 at 13:25 (3,631 days old) by JeffG ()
Checkrate/Likes 1 "Are these companies in collusion with the utilities?" Short answer to that question is yes. E.g. General Electric not only makes appliances, they make many of the parts for power plants (especially nuclear) that provide the energy to run these appliances. Many years ago they (or was it Westinghouse, I forget, another party to the above scam) were successfully sued over this issue. Our family had a DW, but it saw use only in overflow situations (parties etc). The concept of waiting even one hour for clean dishes was ridiculous to us, when manual cleanup (including drying/putting them away) took all of 10-15 minutes. 3+ hours would have been considered something well beyond ridiculous.

Post# 756342 , Reply# 47 5/11/2014 at 16:01 (3,631 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )
Checkrate/Likes *My Custom 21 Kitchenaid* Takes maybe an hour on pots and pans..less or light loads, yeah its old and not quiet..BUT my dishes are clean..baked on casseroles too,... and dry when you take them out!!

Post# 756541 , Reply# 48 5/12/2014 at 14:57 (3,630 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)
Checkrate/Likes As a further test, I have been using the normal "Autowash" programme, with Fairy Platinum. Duration was about 2 hours, but consistently with two intermediate rinses between the wash phase and final rinse. Always sounded lethargic in washing. Using a cheaper store brand tablet created far fewer suds, and only one intermediate rinse. It managed to to wash a similar load, virtually identical actually, in 1hr 40 mins.

Post# 760799 , Reply# 49 6/1/2014 at 17:32 (3,610 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )
Checkrate/Likes The normal cycle on our 12 year old Whirlpool Gold takes about 90 minutes.

Post# 760869 , Reply# 50 6/2/2014 at 08:37 (3,609 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)
Checkrate/Likes I just got a new Miele dishwasher and the normal cycle takes 2 hours 23 minutes. It was surprising to me but the Economy cycle takes longer at 2 hours 43 minutes supposedly because it uses less water and the water is not heated as much. Gary

Post# 760886 , Reply# 51 6/2/2014 at 09:31 (3,609 days old) by Mich (Hells Kitchen - New York)
Checkrate/Likes *About* Two Hours, give or take :)

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