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Post# 732772   2/4/2014 at 07:29 (3,704 days old) by dosxxpapa (Oregon)        

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I have started to dissemble the KD-10. I was able to remove the impeller with two screwdrivers moving it slowly off the shaft. All seals are brittle and are just crumbling apart.

I will need all new seals, so if anyone has any idea on where to get them or what would work, please let me know.

I hope to be able to work on it more sometime this week.

Next, working on taking out the motor.

Steve, thanks for the great instructions about the two screwdrivers to remove the impeller, worked great and I did not need any PB Blaster to do the job.

Will keep everyone informed of the progress.

Joe





Post# 732831 , Reply# 1   2/4/2014 at 14:10 (3,704 days old) by dosxxpapa (Oregon)        
Shaft Seal

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Just ordered a new shaft seal from EPM, That I will have in a couple of days.

Thanks again Steve, you know your stuff!!

Joe


Post# 732834 , Reply# 2   2/4/2014 at 14:24 (3,704 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Wow, the impeller looks to be in great shape!

 

BTW - what was the PN and MFG name of the seal that was ordered?  This may be helpful for anyone that might be in your shoes at some point in the future.

 

Ben


Post# 732838 , Reply# 3   2/4/2014 at 14:43 (3,704 days old) by dosxxpapa (Oregon)        
Link

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Here is the Part Number and the link to where you can get one if you need it.

EPM Home of the Seal Man.

Mechanical Seals For Hobart Mfg.

P/N R 23682

Thanks

Joe


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Post# 732861 , Reply# 4   2/4/2014 at 17:01 (3,704 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)        
U R Welcome.

Joe.

If anyone is looking for that seal,that seal number is exclusive to the KD-10 with the horizontal motor. The Vertical motors used a different seal altogether which was part number 77107. They are all gone from Hobart and I did not see any on Ebay today.
IIRC, that is a John Crane seal. I will double check that when I get a chance to locate the engineering drawing on it.


Post# 733340 , Reply# 5   2/6/2014 at 11:13 (3,702 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
this is gonna be fun

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I have a KD-10 Im going to get into



Post# 733342 , Reply# 6   2/6/2014 at 11:27 (3,702 days old) by dosxxpapa (Oregon)        
Motor is out!

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Motor is out, seals are on there way and I think I found a place up in Portland, Oregon that can rebuild the motor.

The Old Gal will be up and running again, hopefully soon.

Joe


Post# 733348 , Reply# 7   2/6/2014 at 12:13 (3,702 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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My gosh that motor is a BEAST!  I can't say that I've seen the motor for a KD-10 before. 

 

Ben


Post# 733519 , Reply# 8   2/7/2014 at 13:15 (3,701 days old) by dosxxpapa (Oregon)        
Gaskets

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I made two new rubber gaskets for the motor outside the tub and for the inside of the tub.

Post# 733529 , Reply# 9   2/7/2014 at 14:17 (3,701 days old) by dosxxpapa (Oregon)        
Snow

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Can't get the motor to the shop today. I have 10 inches of snow at my house and it is still snowing outside and it is going to be snowing all day today and tomorrow.

Joe


Post# 734072 , Reply# 10   2/9/2014 at 18:36 (3,699 days old) by dosxxpapa (Oregon)        
Storm

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Just got my power back on after having 50 hours of no power!!!

Getting warm finally!

Joe


Post# 734092 , Reply# 11   2/9/2014 at 19:36 (3,699 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Glad to hear it

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now get that motor to the shop! 

 


Post# 734204 , Reply# 12   2/10/2014 at 07:57 (3,698 days old) by dosxxpapa (Oregon)        
Today

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Hope to get the motor to the shop today.

Joe


Post# 734205 , Reply# 13   2/10/2014 at 08:15 (3,698 days old) by william637 (Damp pants? Not a chance. )        
Excellent idea about the two screwdrivers

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I can't wait to try that approach. Of course now my basement is completely torn apart working on the "dishwasher museum room", so it will be a while before I go back to actually working on machines.

Post# 734214 , Reply# 14   2/10/2014 at 09:23 (3,698 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL)        
Glad to help

With the screwdriver tip! We still use that same method when it comes to removing impellers on the larger machines.

Post# 734222 , Reply# 15   2/10/2014 at 10:53 (3,698 days old) by dosxxpapa (Oregon)        
Shop

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Just got back from the electric motor shop. I dropped off the motor and the Old Gal will get fixed up!!!

Happy!!

Joe


Post# 734231 , Reply# 16   2/10/2014 at 11:46 (3,698 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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Joe,

Any chance you sweet talked the motor shop into taking a few in-process photos to document the rebuild?

I'd love to see the inside of that hulking motor!


Post# 734240 , Reply# 17   2/10/2014 at 13:32 (3,698 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
Just curious..

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If you don't mind me asking, what does it cost to have theat done and about how long will it take?

Post# 734241 , Reply# 18   2/10/2014 at 13:35 (3,698 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Great work Joe, it's coming along nicely!!!

Just a heads up, those rubber gaskets you cut, might work but if there still is some leaks you should cut cork gaskets. I have found that on brand new parts rubber works just fine, but on old parts where detergent has corroded a bit of the sealing surfaces cork seals much better. You can get cork on a roll at any auto parts store.


Post# 734251 , Reply# 19   2/10/2014 at 14:32 (3,698 days old) by dosxxpapa (Oregon)        
Cork

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Hey Robert,

Thanks, I am always open to suggestions. This is my first vintage dishwasher repair. I really don't want to do this twice. I would hate to use rubber gaskets and put it all back together and have leaks.

So since I am the novice, I took your advice and went down to get a roll of cork material at the auto parts store. So I am going to make gaskets out of cork now.

New seals will be here on Wednesday, no idea about the motor. It just depends on what needs to be done.

No idea on cost or time it will take to have motor done. I told them it does not matter, I want the Old Gal up and running again. When I find out cost and time I will let everyone know.

Thanks Again!!!

Joe





Post# 735204 , Reply# 20   2/14/2014 at 10:26 (3,694 days old) by dosxxpapa (Oregon)        
Sad News

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Electric Motor Shop called and said the motor was beyond repair and that there was nothing that they could do.

Where do I go from here?

Joe


Post# 736627 , Reply# 21   2/20/2014 at 19:05 (3,688 days old) by dosxxpapa (Oregon)        
New Motor!!!

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New motor was shipped out today by John!!!!!

Thanks John

Should get it next week sometime. Will keep everyone informed on progress with the KD-10!!!!

Joe


Post# 738159 , Reply# 22   2/27/2014 at 22:28 (3,681 days old) by dosxxpapa (Oregon)        
New Motor

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Received the new KD-10 Motor today. I only had time to check the seals. Seals were not good, so I replaced them with new seals that I ordered.

Hope to get the new motor in on Saturday. Will keep you updated.

Thanks John, Steve, Sandy and everyone else!!!

Joe



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