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Samsung EU smart Washing Machine May 2014
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Post# 733378   2/6/2014 at 15:36 (3,703 days old) by l86810 (Southend, UK)        

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Hello Everyone!

Just stumbled upon the new Samsung washing machine due out in May.

I must admit I like machine with all the bells and whistles so this one caught my eye. Looks really modern and almost like a concept design.

I've linked a Daily Mail article and here are some of the main features...





Design: A big door is placed higher up than usual on the machine so that people do not have to bend down as far to retrieve their washing from the machine, which has a streamlined appearance.

Easy to use: A five inch colour screen lets people choose cycles, including their most-used cycle, by touching a button. The washing can be started and stopped using a smartphone app.

Auto-optimal wash: Sensing technology is used to gather information about the size and dirtiness of the load as well as how much detergent is needed. Based on this information, the setting determines the most suitable wash cycle, temperature, time, rinse cycle and spin speed.

Super Speed Wash: Laundry can be done in 60 minutes as the machine uses a twin water supply to fill the drum quickly.

Specialty cycles: These are cycles designed to blitz garden and cooking stains, among others.

Energy saving: The washer uses ‘ecobubble’ technology. Air and water are pulled in to generate bubbles, dissolving the detergent faster so that temperatures can be lower and less energy is used.

Quiet: A 3D vibration sensor system keeps the drum well balanced at high spin speeds by ensuring 14 stainless steel balls spin together in the opposite direction to the laundry load. At lower drum speeds, powerful magnets hold the balls firmly in place and significantly decrease vibration and noise, the company said.


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Post# 733380 , Reply# 1   2/6/2014 at 15:37 (3,703 days old) by l86810 (Southend, UK)        

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Also here's a video... although not in English

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Post# 733386 , Reply# 2   2/6/2014 at 15:53 (3,703 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        

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Sounds like another manufacturer reintroducing hot and cold fill. I love the look of the machine although an not a bells and whistles fan.

The vibration control as been used on Samsung F/L's in the US for a while now.

Wondering where the dispenser is on the washer.


Post# 733390 , Reply# 3   2/6/2014 at 15:59 (3,703 days old) by washer111 ()        
Huge Doors?

Exactly what is the purpose of having a huge door on an FL machine? I personally find it to be a detraction from the design, as it draws attention to this huge glass window. I'm far more happy with the conservative styling of our Miele or even more vintage FL machines from Europe - not these mega "Bells and Whistles" things. 

 

I'd also be concerned whether the suspension system in this washer is designed to adequately handle a bulky or lighter load of general items in balance, or whether it wouldn't even bother spinning as a result... 

 

As for the smartphone control, unless you have automatic dispensers, this seems like a silly idea, and is just another way of things failing. It is also another way for manufacturers and global corporations to steal information or infect your washer with a virus(!)... Imagine that: Come home and find your washer has flooded the house because someone hacked in and planted a virus in there. NO THANKS!


Post# 733405 , Reply# 4   2/6/2014 at 18:24 (3,703 days old) by dascot (Scotland)        

I'm not a huge fan based on initial look at it. The huge door isn't really going to stop bending down by the looks of it, as the drum and drum opening appears to be in the same place, just the door is different. Don't like the dispenser being where it is either - I can't be bothered with auto dispensing, 'cause I like to judge how dirty stuff is and put in the detergent to deal with it. Gimmicks for the sake of it, but no doubt people will pay for them.

Post# 733414 , Reply# 5   2/6/2014 at 19:02 (3,703 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Thanks for posting this! Where was that expo? A rather bold design move considering the conservative washer market. I think many customers (who could afford this washer) will be scared away by the interface. And, as usual, no matching dryer. :-/


Post# 733419 , Reply# 6   2/6/2014 at 19:22 (3,703 days old) by washman (o)        
Interaction with a smartphone eh?

Hmmmmmm.

Post# 733421 , Reply# 7   2/6/2014 at 19:29 (3,703 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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The WW9000 will launch in the UK in May, at an expected retail price of £1,699.



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Post# 733422 , Reply# 8   2/6/2014 at 19:32 (3,703 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Well...

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Interesting place for the dispenser... But did you see the cycle times? Four hours and fifty five minutes? WTH?

Malcolm


Post# 733429 , Reply# 9   2/6/2014 at 20:12 (3,703 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Huge Door

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Is in response to complaints by *some* consumers of having problems loading and unloading large loads and or bulky items. Since one assumes people are purchasing these uber sized domestic front loaders for that purpose, there you are then.

Now for large commercial front loaders such as what you find in Laundromats yes, those machines often have large doors, but they also do not use boots.


Post# 733435 , Reply# 10   2/6/2014 at 20:56 (3,703 days old) by washman (o)        
Ok perhaps I am just plain dumb

"There are also six pre-programmed Specialty Cycles designed to handle specific loads. These include Gardening, Cooking & Dining, Hygiene Care, Active Sports, Active Kids and Working & Everyday

WTF is the difference between getting dirty gardening (which I do not do) vs spilling au jus on my shirt as I tuck into my roast? Does Samsung really think people are that effing dumb?

Apparently, judging by all the gee whiz crap on this overpriced hunk of you know what.

Thanks, but I'll pass.


Post# 733457 , Reply# 11   2/7/2014 at 03:59 (3,703 days old) by nrones ()        
One question

What happens if I want to use a powder detergent?...or simply measure out liquid and softener by myself?

Did I miss the alternative for the auto dose or it really doesn't exist?

Dex


Post# 733480 , Reply# 12   2/7/2014 at 07:24 (3,702 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I like modern high-tech, bells and whistles machines---but I'm not a user of specialty cycles like "Cooking & Dining" or "Gardening" or "Meth Lab Cleanup". It's probably only a matter of time before most appliances require an internet connection. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that washers of the future won't have onboard controls/electronics (which are often trouble-prone). You'll select cycle options on your phone (or a remote control that comes with the machine) and the washer will receive instructions for cycles via wi-fi.

Malcolm-- That uber-long Cottons cycle is of Eco/Energy Efficient variety. In other words, most of those 4.5 hours involve soaking with the occasional tumble. Again, not a cycle I would use.


Post# 733495 , Reply# 13   2/7/2014 at 10:46 (3,702 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Yeah, these looong cotton cycles are are what the energy label is based on. Three hours seems to be what most of these cycles take. The more energy efficient the washer - the longer it takes. Bosch's newest ecoStar washer has a Cotton ecoPerfect cycle of 6.5 hours. Deselect ecoPerfect and it takes four hours less, select speedPerfect and it takes an hour.

 

Stain options are "en vogue" at the moment. Most manufacturers offer them either as a separate cycle or as an add-on option. Nothing wrong with that but most detergents are able to wash stains away even if the washer does nothing special about stain removal.

 

Good observation, Dex! Where does the powder go? I suppose one tosses it in the drum before loading clothes.


Post# 733542 , Reply# 14   2/7/2014 at 15:29 (3,702 days old) by adamthemieleman (York)        

It looks nice, reminds me of the Panasonic machines. I guess the powder drawer is perhaps behind that big massive door somewhere, but like the aqualtis.


Wonder how much this machine would retail for.


Post# 733581 , Reply# 15   2/7/2014 at 18:22 (3,702 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA)        
"Meth Lab Cleanup"

That cycle washes your clothes in acetone. Better not put any rayons in.

Post# 733625 , Reply# 16   2/8/2014 at 03:18 (3,702 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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The best laundry chemistry/machinery humor is definitely in the Deluxe forum.

Post# 733702 , Reply# 17   2/8/2014 at 12:05 (3,701 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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"What happens if I want to use a powder detergent?...or simply measure out liquid and softener by myself"
 
Seems that the washer comes with two detergent balls to dose powder right into the drum. If you don't want to use auto-dose softener, you can only turn it off - no alternative way of adding another softener. You can see it very briefly on the TV running a video presentation in the background at 0:33:

www.donanimhaber.com/diger-ev-ele...


Post# 733765 , Reply# 18   2/8/2014 at 14:49 (3,701 days old) by nrones ()        

Now that's a good observation logixx! :D

A detergent ball wouldn't be a problem for me, but I think ordinairy users may have something against such solution...especially ones that are willing to pay nearly 2000eur for a washer.

And I also hope that ball is made out of softer material that won't bang in the drum and make that horrible noise as normal detergent balls do too...

Dex


Post# 733768 , Reply# 19   2/8/2014 at 15:01 (3,701 days old) by nrones ()        
...And here they are

The dosing balls. For powder detergent, or additives, or liquid in case you don't want to use Autodose...still no alternative for softener.

There are 3 sizes...wonder why is the largest one dark gray, and medium and small one are light blue


Post# 733769 , Reply# 20   2/8/2014 at 15:01 (3,701 days old) by frontloaderfan (Merrimac valley, MA)        

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If these machines ever make it to the US, they would cost around $2,770.00 US. I don't much fancy paying that kind of money for a plastic Korean washer. I'd rather buy a Miele if it came down to it, thank you very much.

I like what Eugene said about future machines not even having controls and requiring an internet connection. What fun hackers and Big Brother could have with our laundry habits/products!

Again, this type of machine is aimed at people who find laundry day odious and don't want to have to think about any of it, not putting in the detergent or even seeing the laundry in the machine, for that matter. I do NOT like the smoked out covers on the glass doors these days. They seem to be more and more common.



Post# 733971 , Reply# 21   2/9/2014 at 11:27 (3,700 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        
paying that kind of money for a plastic Korean washer

Gosh, you're SO right!

Post# 743665 , Reply# 22   3/20/2014 at 18:59 (3,661 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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It's available on Samsung's Swiss homepage already. And there's also an 8 and a 12 kilo model coming. The 12 kg washer has a detergent drawer.

Picture: image.arukereso.hu/full/249595900...


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Post# 743862 , Reply# 23   3/21/2014 at 11:33 (3,660 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
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Made me smile...the touch screen washer has a "skid" programme. The mind boggles!

Post# 743864 , Reply# 24   3/21/2014 at 11:44 (3,660 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
LOL

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Skid? In the original, it says Spin.

"Car Wash Optimum" would be "Auto Wash Optimum" as in AUTOmatic.
"Overdrive" would be the quick cycle.


Post# 743868 , Reply# 25   3/21/2014 at 12:26 (3,660 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

Detergent dispenser thing reminds me of Indesit Moon!
The control panel is nice, but that display sure is small in comparison to the rest of its features.
Panasonic origin by any chance, as they promoted one like this at IFA 2013?


Post# 743882 , Reply# 26   3/21/2014 at 13:37 (3,660 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Well, I think if you're putting on screen on a washer, there are only so many design choices. Most big screens are put in the middle of the fascia - see Miele, V-Zug, BSH, AEG...

Post# 744076 , Reply# 27   3/22/2014 at 09:01 (3,659 days old) by mrwash ()        

What I don't like about these washers is that you just have a limited selection of temperatures and the cycles. Most of them I don't need but others that I would need are not available.


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