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Post# 734106   2/9/2014 at 20:19 (3,699 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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This afternoon, in the middle of a nasty snow I met Jerry(moparwash) to pick up a new to me washer, it fit snugly in the back of my new to me Taurus wagon.

It's an overall nice Lady Kenmore.





Post# 734107 , Reply# 1   2/9/2014 at 20:20 (3,699 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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The console

Post# 734108 , Reply# 2   2/9/2014 at 20:22 (3,699 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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And to make it better, it's a suds saver

Post# 734109 , Reply# 3   2/9/2014 at 20:23 (3,699 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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Open wide,
Nice and clean


Post# 734110 , Reply# 4   2/9/2014 at 20:24 (3,699 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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The serial number

Post# 734111 , Reply# 5   2/9/2014 at 20:25 (3,699 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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Unfortunately the dispenser parts are gone

Post# 734113 , Reply# 6   2/9/2014 at 20:28 (3,699 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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The backside

The drain hose and suds saver hoses are gone.

Does anyone know where I can get new hoses


Post# 734124 , Reply# 7   2/9/2014 at 21:07 (3,699 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        
What???

You got that in the back of a Ford Taurus station wagon???

Post# 734126 , Reply# 8   2/9/2014 at 21:08 (3,699 days old) by washer111 ()        
DD or BD?

Is this machine one of the belt-drive machines, or the infamous "Shredmore" line of machines?

 

As for the hoses, provided KM/WP used a standard hose size in manufacturing the machine, you should be able to visit a local hardware store and get these for the washer. The water inlet hoses themselves will definitely be easy enough to get a hold of, but I think the drain hose might give you grief.

Another expert might chime in and report about that...

 

But congratulations on acquiring this machine! It looks like its in good shape for its age and is hopefully mechanically sound. That said, any repair should be pretty cheap and is bound to keep the machine running for years. These washers will last longer than any junk made today, thats for sure!


Post# 734137 , Reply# 9   2/9/2014 at 21:39 (3,699 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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yes, it just fit into a Taurus station wagon, only had about an inch of clearance

and this is one of the Belt drive models


Post# 734139 , Reply# 10   2/9/2014 at 21:45 (3,699 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)        
Congratulations on getting that machine.

That's definitely a belt drive machine that's loaded with lots of cycle options. Looks to be a fully loaded machine for that time period. To bad they pulled the dispenser out of it. You should be able to track one down and get the dispenser up and running again.

For the drain hoses you should be able to pick them up at any local hardware store. If they don't have a suds saver hose you could just add an extension to a second drain hose and use that. Just be sure you make the extension the correct length to reach the bottom of the sink your using to save your suds in.

Those machines were made to last a lifetime.


Post# 734142 , Reply# 11   2/9/2014 at 21:56 (3,699 days old) by NYCWriter ()        
I've always liked ...

... the way the Lady Kenmores used to open to the side, allowing the user full access to the control panel even while it was wide open.

For that matter, I've also always liked the way the Lady Kenmore dryers used to open like oven doors, too.


Post# 734329 , Reply# 12   2/10/2014 at 19:30 (3,698 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Congratulations, and may you soon find a donor with a dispenser for your lovely belt drive! Count me among those who are amazed the washer fit in the back of a Taurus wagon. You must be living right.

Post# 734333 , Reply# 13   2/10/2014 at 19:39 (3,698 days old) by electronicontrl (Grand Rapids, MI)        
Love it

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XrayTech,
I love your new Lady Kenmore!!!!!
Sweet!


Post# 734337 , Reply# 14   2/10/2014 at 20:00 (3,698 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA )        
Glad you made it home safe...!

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The roads in the neighborhood where it was were pretty bad...a nice machine, congrats Xray for saving it!

Jerry


Post# 734338 , Reply# 15   2/10/2014 at 20:05 (3,698 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Congratulations on a nice save Sam - and congrats to the machine as well for landing in the clutches of an interested collector!

Your machine was made in the 30th week of 1984. It is unit number 01729, so it was made early in the week.

That stinks that the dispenser is completely gone. We'll need to find out how the person did the dispenser-echtomy so we can help you get it re-assembled, that is if you want it back. I would be curious to know what the person did with the detergent valve solenoid under the machine, as well as the plumbing from the lower half of the pump.

I hope you enjoy the washer, they're pretty fun!

Gordon


Post# 734368 , Reply# 16   2/10/2014 at 21:26 (3,698 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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Thanks all,
I cant wait to get the hoses so I can hook it up and do a trial run.

Would the drain hose in the link below be a proper hose to use?


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Post# 734379 , Reply# 17   2/10/2014 at 22:23 (3,698 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
She's a HOTTIE!

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What a beautiful Lady. Enjoy her in good health
WK78


Post# 734383 , Reply# 18   2/10/2014 at 23:06 (3,698 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

Great find. Those Lady Kenmores were something special. Too bad about the disassembled dispenser. I hope you can find whatever is missing to get this up and running as it was when new.

Post# 734394 , Reply# 19   2/11/2014 at 00:53 (3,698 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Now THATS a Lady Kn-NOT a SHREDMORE!!!Thats a nice deluxe one-hope the dispensor can be replaced.Neat find-and it fit in a Taurus?

Post# 734398 , Reply# 20   2/11/2014 at 02:09 (3,698 days old) by stan (Napa CA)        
Nice looking machine!

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The dispenser will turn up!
Hope you post pics when she up an running... And saving suds!


Post# 734473 , Reply# 21   2/11/2014 at 11:21 (3,698 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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Yes Jerry the roads were terrible, it was not a fun ride home.

There was an appliance repair sticker on the console I'm wondering if they were the ones to remove the dispenser.
I'm not concerned about the dispenser as I wouldn't put detergent in the dispenser and I never use fabric softener. A bleach dispenser would have been nice though

I just need to get drain hoses
Just curious which opening on the rear is the drain and which is for suds return?


Post# 734489 , Reply# 22   2/11/2014 at 13:07 (3,698 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA)        

That arrangement with the drain ports and the hose going from one to the other on the rear looks really odd to me. I wonder if the suds was a field retrofit.

Post# 734492 , Reply# 23   2/11/2014 at 13:22 (3,698 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
Not a field retrofit

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This machine was built as a suds model. The "suds" setting at the bottom of the cycle graphics just left of the Delicate cycle is pure factory for suds models. Non-suds machines had a solid "OFF" section there. Also, the model number is another give-away, as 110.83392100 is a suds machine, whereas 110.82392100 is the non-suds variant.

The service panel on the rear with the cut-out for the suds valve is another clue. This machine was born a suds model, but I don't know about the use of that loop hose going from the suds valve. We don't have a lot of suds model washers in the South due mostly to the lack of basements and lack of laundry sinks, thus we don't come across suds machines very often to work on.

Gordon


Post# 734495 , Reply# 24   2/11/2014 at 13:28 (3,698 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
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Yeah, weird suds set-up. I enlarged the console pic, nothing mentions suds save or return at all.

Post# 734498 , Reply# 25   2/11/2014 at 13:51 (3,698 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Mark -

Look at the console pic again - imagine the timer knob is pointing 180 degrees directly south, the suds return phase is there. It is a vertical indication. Look immediately to the right of the Pre-Soak cycle.

This is for suds return. The machine always diverted rinse water through a different hose than wash water, by that I mean it always behaved as though the user wanted to store wash water, so there is no separate suds save function.

Gordon


Post# 734502 , Reply# 26   2/11/2014 at 14:22 (3,698 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
Gordon

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Your eyes are better than mine in these low-quality pics! You are correct!
I had been looking at the knobs and switches only. You are our resident Kenmore pro!
Thanks

Properly hosed up and running, that's one heck of a fun machine.


Post# 734511 , Reply# 27   2/11/2014 at 14:59 (3,698 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Suds on timer

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Just as Gordon dscribed. The feature was always there--just not identified. Every Kenmore I came across with and played with, had that "dead space" that actually functioned.

Post# 734517 , Reply# 28   2/11/2014 at 15:39 (3,698 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)        

Sam,

Since all the Kenmore's I've ever seen run their drain hoses out of the corner location I would bet that it still would be the same. The hose port that's in the center of the back is the one that would operate as the suds hose. The suds hose has a longer tail piece on it that reaches down almost to the bottom of the sink (except for maybe the last inch to allow sediment to settle while waiting to be re-used) giving it the ability to draw the water back into the machine when it's set for that. If you don't plan on using the suds saver you could just use two reg. drain hoses into the same sink.

For your piece of mind- make sure the suds hose and the reg. drain hose are connected before you run the machine for the first time. The suds hose is used for draining the wash water. It also returns it to the machine when you use the suds saver. The other hose operates for all the other drain functions.
If you don't plan on using the suds saver you could use 2 reg. drain hoses but if you plan on using it then-
The suds hose needs to drain into a stationery tub the has enough capacity to hold what the washer empties from a full tub of water. The other hose can be put into a standpipe or another sink which won't interfere with your suds saving.


Post# 734741 , Reply# 29   2/12/2014 at 11:46 (3,697 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

John's Frankenmore has that loop of hose going outside the cabinet. I think he told me that the large capacity machines did not have room for the usual arrangement of the hoses inside. The one thing I liked about Maytags from long ago when I hated all of them was the save or drain suds option so that you could drain the suds without using a tub; not so the WP-made washers.

Post# 734750 , Reply# 30   2/12/2014 at 12:36 (3,697 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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If that fit in a taurus wagon, I wonder what I can carry in my MKX...


Hrm.. Maybe I'll go get some stuff in Eastern Montana I've been eyeing ... :-D


Post# 734760 , Reply# 31   2/12/2014 at 13:50 (3,697 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
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So this machine will always engage the diverter valve as if SUDS saving is desired? If not, how does one set it for saving or draining?

Malcolm


Post# 734869 , Reply# 32   2/12/2014 at 22:05 (3,696 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)        
Malcolm- Yes it automatically does it.

The machine will drain the wash water automatically thru the suds hose which is the hose that it use to return suds. If you plan on "suds saving" you just have to make sure the drain in the sink is closed so you don't lose the water. When your ready to return your suds back to the machine just set the dial to the suds mark
(6 o'clock position on the dial) and the machine will suck the suds back out of the sink into the machine. The other drain hose on the machine is used for all other drain functions.


Post# 734968 , Reply# 33   2/13/2014 at 12:36 (3,696 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Cool Rare Later LKM Washer With Factory Suds-Saver

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This machine as several other knowledgeable people have stated appears to be completely stock, the one other cool feature of this washer is that you can save either all the wash water [ up to about 23 gallons I believe ] or only about 14 gallons of the wash water by changing an electrical connection inside the control panel. Sam if you read the foot notes on the rear panels wiring diagram it tells you how to make this adjustment. This was done on some WP built Super capacity washers because most laundry sinks would only hold 18-20 gallons of water and trying to save it all would result in an overflow and FLOOD.

Sam I have several new complete Triple-Dispenser assemblies if you would like to make this feature functional again. You are correct that you do not need to use the det dispenser for normal loads, the reason these washers had the DD was for the automatic soak or per-wash cycles so you did not have to return to the machine to add the main wash detergent.


Post# 735280 , Reply# 34   2/14/2014 at 20:17 (3,694 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA)        

If this machine is like the older Kenmores, it only does suds save on the "Cotton/Sturdy" cycle (and maybe the delicates cycle). It doesn't do it on the Permanant Press cycle because the cool-down water dilutes the suds.


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