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| Post# 734481 2/11/2014 at 12:18 (3,725 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
It occurred to me late last night that I cannot recall ever seeing a belt-drive Kenmore machine with a four position speed selector switch or a low-speed agitate with high-speed spin cycle.
Did one ever exist? I seem to recall a Whirlpool Imperial with a push button speed selector, but not a Kenmore. Malcolm | ||
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Post# 734496 , Reply# 1 2/11/2014 at 13:42 (3,725 days old) by Kenmoreguy64  (Charlotte, NC) |
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Malcolm,
There were very few belt-drives of either brand with selectable speed switches, other than the basic Lady K machines of 1964-1974. Those machines were not what you have in mind (at least I don't think) as to a "real" speed switch like we saw in so many bazillion direct drives. The only thing that comes to mind in the Kenmore barn is an alternate Lady Kenmore model from 1966 which had a rotary speed select knob instead of the piano keys. This knob allowed the user to select speeds independent of the cycle selected. This machine was incredibly expensive as compared Lady, which we all know was already pricey. I think this model carried a $50 premium over the standard Lady. I believe there has been one or two discussions of that model on the site, but it is little known and seldom seen. I think John/Combo mentioned the electronic speed control was expensive to service and repair. If I can find anything about this model in the searcholator, I'll post a link to it in this thread. Other than that model though, I can't think of any rotary or push button speed controlled models for Kenmore. Gordon UPDATE - I forgot the 1965, 1966, and 1968-ish Kenmore 800s. Here's a link to an interesting thread with some good photos. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Kenmoreguy64's LINK This post was last edited 02/11/2014 at 14:08 | ||
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Post# 734504 , Reply# 2 2/11/2014 at 14:29 (3,725 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 My aunt had a late 1960s Kenmore, probably an 800 but I don't recall it was designated as such on the console. There have been finds/pics floating around of similiar, if not an identical unit. It had an alphabet timer but wasn't pushbutton/lock. Fluorescent light. Timed bleach/softener but no detergent dispenser. Rotoswirl with scrubber cap. Levers at base of the console for temp options (Auto / Cold Wash-Rinse / Cold Rinse) and variable water level. Rotary knob at right side of the console (right of the timer) for speed (Auto / Slo-Slo / ExSlo-Slo). There was the rare solid-state, variable speed Kenmore that had separate rotary controls for spin and agitate speed. I have a pic but can't find it at the moment. Several Whirlpool models (TOP and near-TOL) from 1959 to 1976 had separate spin & agitate speed selectors. 
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Post# 734509 , Reply# 3 2/11/2014 at 14:53 (3,725 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Had neighbors who bought the house next to ours (the one with the previous to LK Combos). I saw this washer they had one or two times. It was a coppertone set. Probably bought in 1967 or 1968. Had black pushbuttons for the 5 water temps. Variable water level. And it also had a knob to the right of the timer dial. Straight up it had the word "auto" on it. There were 4 other positions that selected the 4 wash/spin speed combos derived from a 2 speed motor. I did a double take the first time I saw it. I wanted to steal that pair numerous times. To me it was the perfect Kenmore.
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| Post# 734550 , Reply# 5 2/11/2014 at 18:24 (3,725 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Amazing | ||
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Post# 734566 , Reply# 7 2/11/2014 at 19:27 (3,725 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 734568 , Reply# 8 2/11/2014 at 19:38 (3,725 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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to note how the 5 choices are labeled compared to the 3-pos
Glenn, did you read my post above? In the position the knob is in in the photo, it says Automatic. then the other four notches (two on either side of Automatic) would be Slow Wash/Normal Spin, N/N, Automatic, Normal Wash/Slow Spin and Slow/Slow. Friends of my parents (that lived on the all-Frigidaire kitchen street), had the above washer and matching dryer in coppertone. It too had the above 5 position speed knob. But I also know what I described above. the next door neighbors had what essentially looked like a 1965 Kenmore 800 with a speed switch/knob. I blew up the above photo. It looks like the white letters on the knob are for agitation. On the left side it looks like Slo Slo and to the right of the "automatic" word it look like Norm and Norm. Those must be the agitation designators.
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Post# 734581 , Reply# 9 2/11/2014 at 20:26 (3,725 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 734598 , Reply# 11 2/11/2014 at 21:13 (3,725 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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3-speeds
Glenn, I've also seen (since being here) a version that did indeed offer the capability of the ex-slo 3rd speed. to me that was the "surprise" given the above mentioned models by me were the only one(s) I'd ever seen. In fact, what you are describing Glenn is what has been shown/found here before. This is the first time I've seen the model above--which when seeing the 3-speed version, made me question my at-the-time 13 year old sanity given I had other distractions at the time which involved hormones.
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Post# 734845 , Reply# 12 2/12/2014 at 20:32 (3,724 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 734973 , Reply# 13 2/13/2014 at 12:54 (3,723 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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1967 Kenmore 800 pair
Terry T I have the exact set of these machines in as good as new mechanical condition, they are both white the washer is the non-suds model and the dryer is electric, they are for sale, I could even deliver them to the Cleveland area sometime in the next month or so, contact me if you have any interest.
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Post# 734983 , Reply# 14 2/13/2014 at 13:27 (3,723 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Post# 735019 , Reply# 16 2/13/2014 at 16:39 (3,723 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Variable Speed LKM Washer
I have never seen one of these in the flesh either, these must be one of the rarest KM BD washers ever. This KM used a GE built variable speed induction motor, this same GE motor design was also used in a HP solid tub washer and a HP built Easy along with a Norge and a Norge built MW version of the Norge.
GE made a FF machine that had a variable speed clutch and Frigidaire also made rollermatic solid tub washer that also had a mechanical clutch that could slip constantly to allow lower agitation and spin speeds. This was a feature that male engineers dreamed up that didn't improve the washers performance one bit over already available three speed washers. all these VS washers designs disappeared within just a few years and were basically a sales flop. I would love to find one of these KM machines. | ||
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