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Thread Number: 51439
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Post# 737948 2/26/2014 at 22:56 (3,708 days old) by spinspeed  (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK)) |
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Hi guys,
Just finished renovating my Hoover twin tub. Pump had seized up and a few minor leaks. Got this one on eBay a few years back. The Australian model with no water heater. I used to love using my Mum's wash dog in the 70s in the UK when i was a kid. The one with the built in fill hose and spout that sat in the spin side and swung over to fill the tub. Firsts load today I got a suds lock in the spinner. Took ages to clear all the suds out. Gave up in the end and transferred the load to the F&P for a spray rinse and deep rinse. Were all Hoover TT the same size? This one I have here feels much smaller but then as mentioned I was only. Child when I used my Mum's on in the 70's. Thank god for fully automatic washers is all I can say. I don't think I will be wheeling the TT out too often, bloody hard work if you ask me but kind of fun too. | ||
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| Post# 737965 , Reply# 1 2/27/2014 at 03:55 (3,707 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
All TTs I've seen except Easy and Unimac were roughly the same size as Hoover. I owned a Panasonic and 'helped' grandma with the Easy and never saw anything even resembling suds lock in the spinner. In both we used 'standard' detergents (not HE) and spun the suds back to the wash side without dilution (suds saver) before prerinsing (I did agitation rinses in addition to spin rinses. Can't rightly remember what grandma did, that was 1952).
Once that foam is churned up it IS hard to get rid of. Had to was (sic) a reason it churned up. Did turn the pump on before the spinner, right? Spinner should have no standing water in it when started. | ||
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Post# 738056 , Reply# 3 2/27/2014 at 13:48 (3,707 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Twinny Wash
Hard to imagine, yes my mum also washed for 6 at least 3 times a week and managed, but then again we didnt know any different back then!! its only now we can compare these uber sized washers....and if you did have an automatic in the 60`s / 70`s then the load capacity was only a few pounds more than a twinny of its day!!
Simon does yours have the plastic tub?, any pics in your new washroom?? | ||
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Post# 738069 , Reply# 4 2/27/2014 at 14:32 (3,707 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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All Things Being Equal
Would have taken a wringer washing machine (or two) over a twin-tub. Don't get me wrong my Hoover TT is "fun" to use but that entertainment can only be withstood for limited periods of time! *LOL*
Just too much noise and messing about to do anymore than a few loads of washing at once. Also capacity wise one is sure the fuller sized wringer washers could handle things like sheets and blankets better than Hoover TT. My owner's manual gives directions for linens and bedding but cannot see doing anything larger than "twin" sized items. Even if they would manage to wash you'll never get bigger things into the spin basket. Am betting one of those double tub wringer units such as from Philco would leave a TT in the dust. Where TT's did shine is that they were often small enough for the most compact living conditions, so that is something anyway. | ||
| Post# 738079 , Reply# 5 2/27/2014 at 15:00 (3,707 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
I actually have lot of fun using my servis, and i am saving money to buy more twinnies in the future to use in sunny days outside in our mansion/farm i love the fact you can reuse and save water for the next loads even for days, and then reheat for the next use.... I do not have problems about rinsing at all, sure is the thing is uncomparable to an automatic about convenience/comfort, which you load it and forget about it till end of cycle buzzer, if it was not so we would still have lots of people using them instead of automatics don't you think? But as for everything they have pros and cons, they're still going strong, along with wringer washers in countries and areas of the world with problems of limited water supply and also where detergents are not that cheap and easy thing to get as long as laundry rooms in homes suitable for sud saving machines (now disappeared here by the way but present in these countries)....they,re portable, easy moving and they spin rinse clothes so you do not even need buckets, tubs, sink or else to rinse like for wringer, nor needs a deep tub to store water like for sud saving automatics, TT are the best choiche in africa, asia and parts of south america where water and detergents supply may be an issue for many ( as i said they allows water and detergent saving because you can reuse wash water)... I love using my twinny as for using my automatics, just using my servis as we speak...so glad i own it...
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| Post# 738105 , Reply# 6 2/27/2014 at 17:41 (3,707 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Here you can see for example current TOL models of whirlpool TT for indian market, to note also that while in Parts of Asia like china and thailand they do market almost totally pulsator machines in India as for philippines and parts of africa the agitator is preferred... Not the case to comment about that even if I would of course get an agitator one, here shows that in certain countries still exist TT and heck they're also very capient 8 to 10 kgs, perfectly fashionable and attractive for todays' discutible general standards and trends regarding aesthetics, style and materials used.... But what can you do???? LOL
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Post# 738129 , Reply# 7 2/27/2014 at 19:56 (3,707 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK)) |
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Post# 738130 , Reply# 8 2/27/2014 at 19:58 (3,707 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK)) |
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Post# 738132 , Reply# 9 2/27/2014 at 19:59 (3,707 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK)) |
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Post# 738133 , Reply# 10 2/27/2014 at 20:01 (3,707 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK)) |
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Post# 738134 , Reply# 11 2/27/2014 at 20:02 (3,707 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK)) |
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Post# 738136 , Reply# 12 2/27/2014 at 20:03 (3,707 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK)) |
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Post# 738137 , Reply# 13 2/27/2014 at 20:04 (3,707 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK)) |
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Post# 738138 , Reply# 14 2/27/2014 at 20:05 (3,707 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK)) |
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| Post# 762326 , Reply# 15 6/8/2014 at 17:39 (3,606 days old) by anthony (uk) | ||
Here in the UK
the twintub was extremely popular practically every home had one back in the 60s and 70s if you had an auto back then you were considered well off .My mum had three Hoovermatic twintubs over the course of 30 odd years they all got a lot of rough use serving a family of 6 there was no time for pussyfooting around washing was not a fun pastime it was still a chore that had to be done .On washday there would be at least 7 or 8 loads of washing sorted into piles on the kitcken floor the whites went in first then into the spinner next load into the washer unload the spinner into the large belfast sink full of fresh water then back into the spinner then into the basket second load into spinner .The laundry was not lifted from the washer an article at a time she would just get her hands in there lift the lot out and ram it into the spinner usually overloading it then the next load would be dumped into the tub eventually disapearing under the water those machines led a hard life but we always had loverly clean beautifully ironed clothes to wear and fresh bedding once a week using a twintub was labour intensive but it was a vast improvement in what had gone before when finished mum would dunk a bucket ibto the still hot soapy water throw it out of the back door and then with the yard brush clean all the concrete path around our house the rest of the water was pumped out onto the scullery floor and brushed down the drain in the floor rinse the machine out then shove it back under the draining board for a well earned rest
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| Post# 762426 , Reply# 17 6/9/2014 at 03:24 (3,605 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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Since this came up originally I bought a new twintub, Panda (Chinese). Perfectly satisfactory after 2 months. Plate-type reversing wash side, 1300RPM DD spinner lets stuff dry in 20min with a standard (240V) dryer. Full control over everything.
Does take time if like I did, wash had piled up over months and some needed washed twice. Standard wear 'N' wash stuff goes right through it, not having to drain and refill the wash tub. I now soak problem items in a bucket with detergent concentrate for several hours. Not toss-N-twist convenient but I'm only washing for myself and rather short on entertaining + productive things to do with my time in the retirement ghetto and really like the results. | ||
| Post# 763166 , Reply# 18 6/12/2014 at 05:52 (3,602 days old) by keymatic (London / UK) | ||
Twinny's are the best....
.........how could you not luv these fab styles !!
Regards Keith
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| Post# 763242 , Reply# 19 6/12/2014 at 13:29 (3,602 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona ) | ||
i LOVE the "HOOVER" name but.....
if i were to ever get another twin tub washer, it would definitely HAVE to be one that has an "agitator" washing action. i am not a fan of the hoover, or any other, "pulsator" wheel washing action!!!
so, IF i ever went the twin tub route, i would have to have a speed queen, simplicity, or hotpoint twin tub washer. or also an easy spindrier would fit in this category too. and another thing too, that might knock a few of these agitating twin tub washers off the table is that i would definitely need a 2-speed washer. and i don't know if hotpoint or the easy spindrier had a "gentle/slow" agitation speed?? hm hm hm..... :o) | ||
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Post# 763286 , Reply# 20 6/12/2014 at 16:20 (3,602 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Lack of an agitator in Hoover TT's is deceiving
One would think due to the size of the tub the impeller design translates into increased capacity, not a bit.
If Hoover's are overloaded, which doesn't take much, all movement comes to a halt. IMHO the best of TT design was the Easy machines which today can be found on the commercial Unimac twin tubs. | ||
| Post# 763308 , Reply# 21 6/12/2014 at 18:00 (3,602 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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I share Christina preference, both vertical or bottom impeller machines, even though less in vertical impeller ones, do have a washing action I personally find odd, they all result in wrapping, even those having reversible action (asian type), but more than else they don't beat much or at all clothes through water, and so force washing solution in them, they rather moves water and clothes togheter along with the current created in a big whirlpool, so they stir laundry like if you're doing a minestrone, and eventually ending in a ball... -_-
Nothing like an agitator washing action, of course incomparable, but still better than some others I can see in some of the more modern Toploaders... And especially of the HE kind, let's don't do names... | ||
| Post# 763311 , Reply# 22 6/12/2014 at 18:26 (3,602 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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Ditto.
The Easy was a great one, what i also loved in it was the tap and spout in the spinner to distribuite evenly water for spray rinse, then the spiralator doesn't need presentation...
The Easy TT style was later copied by an italian manufacturer of Turin that produced a quasi- identical one, the brand was GRR , I wish i were able to post pics, it included also taps and spinner spout.. I am unsure though about the spout as it was present even in earlier models so perhaps it wasn't copied from easy... Anyways, GRR were not that good in washing action, like on the other hand were not the most italian ones, they lacked a decently vigorous washing action and well designed wig wag mechanism (speed and arc) , and some of their agitator styles were pretty ridicolous also, they also tended to have weak ridicolous motors that slowed down incredibly if loaded more... | ||
| Post# 763313 , Reply# 23 6/12/2014 at 18:39 (3,602 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 763318 , Reply# 24 6/12/2014 at 18:49 (3,602 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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If I have to speak about look though, probably my favourite italian " not copied" TT was the Candy Bimatic...But about wsshing action...well...not. That's the "only" reason why I never cared getting one...
I am in love with my Servis and like both earlier and later models. And so their american and canadian cousins, Semplicity etc... | ||
| Post# 763360 , Reply# 25 6/12/2014 at 21:55 (3,602 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona ) | ||
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cool videos kenmoreguy89....
thanks for sharing those videos. i have never seen either one of those brands of twin tub washers. very interesting.
and like you, i don't really like the agitation of the "candy" bimatic. it seems to be to fast & short stroke agitation. and also, maybe that person didn't have enough water in the washtub for good agitation & rollover. cuz it looked like the water level they had was way below the water level line?? and the agitation of the GRR reminded me of a kitty cat purring. hm hm hm..... :o) | ||
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Post# 763943 , Reply# 26 6/16/2014 at 08:18 (3,598 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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The Latest in Laundry Room Tech...
Presenting "The Integrated Twintub" - this was installed by our friends (The Spar of Bob & Neil) for their catering business, having a lot of kitchen cloths and "Catering Whites" table cloths napkins etc, so we have the Servis 108 Supertwin Twintub installed in a cabinet next to the sink for easy access, swivel taps to fill and rinse and all hoses run out the back - who says washday is a drudge!!
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Post# 763944 , Reply# 27 6/16/2014 at 08:23 (3,598 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Servis 108 Supertwin Integrated Twintub
Washing Away...
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| Post# 763950 , Reply# 28 6/16/2014 at 09:06 (3,598 days old) by keymatic (London / UK) | ||
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| Post# 763969 , Reply# 29 6/16/2014 at 10:21 (3,598 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
Twin Tubs
I think there is merit in both types of agitator, I have had two machines, one Hotpoint automatic (centrepost) and a Hoover pulsator.
The speed with which these machines complete a load is mind boggling compared to modern automatics, add to that they wash brilliantly. So you have to get a bit involved and use your brain a bit, Oh Dear :-) not for those who think they are far too important to have to think about washing then ;-) I am know myself and some other members are old enough to have been brought up with twintubs etc (ducks to avoid flying zimmer frames and washing tongs) and were always fascinated by the wash actions and the soothing sounds of them washing and of course the lovely smells of the steam. To me twin tubs etc have a very firm place in my heart and if I had the room I would have one and would like to aspire to what Mike has shown us with the built in Servis, it must be a joy to use. Keep up the twin tubs etc always a source of pleasure Gary Here is a rather splendid example of a Hoover Twinny I picked up at work a few years ago
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Post# 764039 , Reply# 30 6/16/2014 at 16:55 (3,598 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Laundry Room
Hi Keith, yes it works really well, Mathew completely overhauled the spinner, new spin bearings and seals, rubber mounts checked and a thorough overhaul before it was sited in place - it sits on a raised plinth in a rubberised base tray, the cabinet front lifts off, if you need to remove it you simply use a jack to lower it and it slides out, I added a flexipipe for the tub empty the spinner is gravity drain, all pipes exit underneath to drain, no sudz return!!
If anything it balances better than freestanding, as all Servis Supertwins are mounted on their own baseframe it has had no issues with OOB, it seems to correct itself from any excess vibrations!! | ||
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Post# 764040 , Reply# 31 6/16/2014 at 16:59 (3,598 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Twintubs
Lovely OOvah there Gary, the first model produced from 1957, classic styling with those Blue metal lids!!
Of course it does help if your wear a pair of wellies with the "Splashmatics" but hey whose floor doesnt need a good clean on washsday!! I do like the built in Servis its at a great height to use and just "Swing and Fill" and your away... | ||
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