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Are these Late 60s Maytags?
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Post# 740886   3/10/2014 at 09:20 (3,693 days old) by jamesclarke (Pennsylvania)        

These are coming up for sale at an estate sale soon and my wife actually said they look nice and would work for her.

If they are in fact working, what would be a fair price to pay for the pair?

Any other info would be great.





Post# 740889 , Reply# 1   3/10/2014 at 09:59 (3,693 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)        
these Maytag’s date from 1975

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1975 was the first year Maytag used gold pain on the lower half of the control panels and it was the last year they made the Halo of Heat Dryer with the lint trap in the back of the drum. In 1976 Maytag introduced their Stream of Heat Dryers that had the lint trap right inside the door and the bigger dryer door. Maytag continued to make the center dial control washers and dryer until 1980 when the redesigned the control panel with the dials on the right side and fake walnut looking panels…PAT COFFEY

Post# 740891 , Reply# 2   3/10/2014 at 10:30 (3,693 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I can't say for certain, but that may be an extra-large tub washer.  It appears to have four water level selections instead of three, two speed options and three wash temperature options.  Someone else here can confirm the capacity, or you can confirm it visually by counting the slots down the side of the agitator.  There will be four instead of three if it's an extra-large capacity tub.

 

I can't be sure about the dryer.  I'm guessing it has both timed and automatic cycles.  It does not appear to have any heat options, but those may be automatically controlled by the cycle selected.

 

Although these machines were produced in 1975, they are the same design as those produced in the latter half of the '60s except for the "crystal" timer knobs and gold trim on the lower portion of the consoles.  Machines just a couple of years older had chrome knobs and a silver-blue trim instead of gold.

 

These machines aren't top of the line.  If they were, they would have florescent-lit white glass consoles.  Mechanically they're built to the same high standards as top-of-the line models.

 

My cosmetic concern would be that if those stickers on the panels are removed, they could take the paint with them.


Post# 740922 , Reply# 3   3/10/2014 at 14:27 (3,693 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
it looks like....

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the washer is an x-large capacity washtub. and by the 3 water temperature buttons on would guess it to be an A606?? i'm not positive but that's what i would guess the washer to be. as for the dryer, i have no clue??

but i do have a question, do my eyes decieve me?? or does it look like both the washer & dryer have the shaded edged painting. which would make these the "harvest gold" color and not the plain "gold" color, like my washer. or am i wrong???


Post# 740965 , Reply# 4   3/10/2014 at 17:01 (3,693 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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At the risk of upsetting a few, I would say somewhere in the $100.00 range for the pair is fair, providing they work properly.


Post# 741002 , Reply# 5   3/10/2014 at 18:48 (3,693 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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That washer is for certain a 1975-ish A606.  Looking at the dial, the dryer appears to be a DE407.


Post# 741014 , Reply# 6   3/10/2014 at 19:35 (3,693 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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And the stickers are probably a same-to-newer (though likely not more than 30-yr.-old) vintage...


-- Dave


Post# 741019 , Reply# 7   3/10/2014 at 20:16 (3,693 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Very Okay Machines....

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....But if you'll be patient, a pair of top-of-the-line 806s will turn up and be real stars of your vintage collection.

806s had it all - the most cycles, the lighted consoles, the large washer capacity and the lighted dryer drum. Earlier washers even have a lighted tub.

Your wife will enjoy any Maytag pair in good working order, though - as has been pointed out, Maytag did not reserve high quality standards for its more expensive machines. Every Maytag was built to the same quality standard - the difference was in the features.

If you're in need of machines right away, go ahead and get these and learn how to maintain and repair Maytags on them. You can always "trade up" and resell these later; it's usually not too hard to get a reasonable investment back out of vintage Maytags.


Post# 741025 , Reply# 8   3/10/2014 at 21:00 (3,693 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I agree with the figure of $100 for the pair, or a little more if they're in exceptional condition.  If you have to bargain for them, you should advise that they're not top of the line machines.   If they were, they'd have the lit panels, the washer would have more buttons for temperatures and speeds, and the dryer would have an "Electronic Control" timer dial.

 

Maybe those stickers on the washer are actually magnets.  The "Heavy Duty" sticker on the dryer was put there either by Maytag or the appliance dealer to help with sales.  I wouldn't try to remove that one.


Post# 741043 , Reply# 9   3/10/2014 at 22:04 (3,693 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Mikey, the washer is next to top of the line--A606. The dryer is 3rd from TOL. It does have automatic dry control feature as well as timed dry. Very respectable pair. The water temperature buttons would yield a Hot wash & warm rinse; warm wash & cold rinse; and finally cold wash & rinse. It is the largest capacity washer Maytag offered. And with the warm water button pushed, that means they aren't a slimy victim of cold water only washing.

Post# 741053 , Reply# 10   3/11/2014 at 00:27 (3,692 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
i've got a question here.....

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i was just wondering, did any model of maytag center dial washers offer a "2nd rinse" option??

something i was wondering today....


Post# 741064 , Reply# 11   3/11/2014 at 05:00 (3,692 days old) by Gilles8000 ()        
2nd Rinse on Maytags with center dial

Hippiedoll


My mom had a Maytag A208 washer. I remember the manual saying that the only to get a 2nd rinse was to use the Permanent Press Cycle

The washer would agigate on either Gentle or Regular speed.

After the wash the washer would pause for 1 minute

Then it would Spin and partial drain on Regular spin speed, fill do one more partial drain. Then it would do this:

Fill to level selected.
Pause
Deep Rinse for 1 minute
Pause
Spin and Drain at Regular Spin Speed which lasted for 2 minutes.
Fill
Deep Rinse
Pause
Spin and Drain at Regular spin Speed again to 618 RPM.
Damp Sry
Off

During the Permanent Press Cycle all Rinses are of cold water.

Another thing the model A806 does not recommend the gentle spin on Permanent Press cause the first full spin would drain out the water and then spin for 30-45 seconds on first spin on that cycle. Keep in mind that the Gentle spin would not remove as much detergent as the Gentle Action and Gentle spin speed in Permanent Press.

So stick with Gentle or Regular Action in Permanent Press on the A206, A207, A208, A606,A608, or the A806.

The other models use single speed Regular Action and Spin on the Permanent Press.

Gilles


Post# 741067 , Reply# 12   3/11/2014 at 05:46 (3,692 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
One Other Thought:

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If you and your wife like Harvest Gold and want to live with it, that's great.

However, it is not a very popular color now, so I would keep that in mind. It will limit resale just a little bit if you try to "trade up."


Post# 741072 , Reply# 13   3/11/2014 at 06:22 (3,692 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        

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Hi Mikey,

Don't want to spoil the fun here. Others that have posted here have hinted at but not actually stated that the dryer is a Halo of Heat type machine. They're nice machines, but they're harder to work on than Stream of Heat dryers and parts are becoming hard to find. If you're really a good DIY type guy, have perseverance and the machines are low mileage, it might turn out fine. But if you're not and they're not, it could turn into a headache for you. And some of the same could apply to the washer. Machines of this age often require some fairly intensive restoration to work properly and last. Don't get me wrong. I love to see any vintage machines saved, but don't bite off more than you can chew. Good luck to you.

Brian


Post# 741163 , Reply# 14   3/11/2014 at 16:40 (3,692 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
gilles8000...

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thank you so much for your reply & for explaining the "PERMANENT PRESS" cycle. and also for letting me know that, in your mom's A208 owner's manual, it said, the only way to get a 2nd rinse option was to use the "PERMANENT PRESS" cycle. i will definitely keep that in mind, the next time i wash a load of towels, as i always like to do a 2nd rinse on the towels to make sure that all the soap is rinsed out all the way.

now i feel like grabbing towels just to watch the "PERMANENT PRESS" cycle in action.
hm hm hm......

thank you again for your reply gilles8000, it was much appreciated.

lovingly,
hippiedoll ;o)
peace...


Post# 741211 , Reply# 15   3/11/2014 at 19:53 (3,692 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Perment Press Cycle On MT 06 Washers

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While rinsing is improved somewhat on the PP cycle it is no where as good as an actual 2nd deep rinse and if you are washing heavy items like towels the longer final spin on the regular is much better.

It was stupid that MT used a fast spin on the PP cycle, I think that they must have the only washer manufacturer that ever did this and if you compared the way shirts emerged form being washed in MTs PP cycle to those washed in a BD WP products PP of the same time period the difference was noticeable as the shirts came out.

The best way to get a 2nd rinse in an 06 MT is to set the timer back for another rinse on the regular cycle.


Post# 741216 , Reply# 16   3/11/2014 at 20:14 (3,692 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Or catch it during the 1st rinse agitation, reset the timer to a couple minutes in the wash phase ... it'll drain/spin (and spray-rinse), rinse again, final spin & shut off.


Post# 741224 , Reply# 17   3/11/2014 at 21:06 (3,692 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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John, what about 806 models?  Don't they have selector buttons for wash and spin speeds?  Does the cycle selection of Permanent Press override the speed buttons?


Post# 741232 , Reply# 18   3/11/2014 at 21:31 (3,692 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
manual 2nd rinse.....

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yeah, that's what i've been doing all along, letting the regular wash cycle run through and then when it's finished, i'll reset the timer onto the rinsing part of the regular cycle.

thank you all for your responses & inputs. i really do appreciate it. but i wonder why maytag didn't give a 2nd rinse option?
hmmmmm???


Post# 741248 , Reply# 19   3/11/2014 at 22:44 (3,692 days old) by appnut (TX)        
wonder why maytag didn't give a 2nd rinse option?

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This was one of the reasons why I didn't buy a 606 or 806 pair in April 1978. That was a requirement. I believe center dial Maytags were the only brand that didn't offer a 2nd rinse even on their TOL model. 2nd rinse buttons did not appear until the redesigned control panel when the timer dial was moved to the right. And not all of the "806" equivalents in this redesigned panel offered a 2nd rinse option button. But it did happen. And definitely on the Dependable Care two TOL mechanical models offered 2nd rinse option.

Post# 741256 , Reply# 20   3/11/2014 at 23:35 (3,692 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
ahhh....

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so maytag did offer a 2nd rinse option but, not on any of the "center dial" models, only on the later models.
ah shucks!!!
oh well....
hm hm hm.....

i still like & prefer the look of the 2nd generation "center dial" maytags, 2nd rinse option or not.

;o)


Post# 741450 , Reply# 21   3/12/2014 at 19:10 (3,691 days old) by squeenjj ()        
I wish I had them

I never see center dial Maytags around here in North Alabama. I hope one day I'll run up on one on Craigslist or an Estate Sale.

Post# 741456 , Reply# 22   3/12/2014 at 19:36 (3,691 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Second Rinses....

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....Have their uses, but if someone is regularly needing second rinses, I would have to wonder if they're not overdosing with the detergent.

My late partner insisted that second rinses were essential. He was so hell-bent on them that he'd crank the timer dial of the machines I owned at the time (a Whirly Design 2000 pair) back around to the rinse cycle while they were running. Obviously, this was not good for the washer; it did not take this abuse long before deciding it had had a nice life and refusing to work any more.

I found that he was using enormous amounts of detergent. Efforts to get him to cut back were only partially successful. I did put a stop to the timer-cranking, though.


Post# 741471 , Reply# 23   3/12/2014 at 20:27 (3,691 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Double Rinsing

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Maytag and all other manufactures did not have a setting for extra rinses when they originally designed and built their automatic washers, because not only is it seldom necessary, but it is a bad idea in general.

As Sandy suggested if you always feel that you need to do an extra rinse you are likely doing something worng. Extra rinses not only are a huge waste of water but they damage your clothing, the washer and they leave the clothing less soft and filled with mineral deposits unless you have perfectly soft water. I have almost never felt the need to subject my clothing and machines to this wasteful abuse.

John L.


Post# 741486 , Reply# 24   3/12/2014 at 22:49 (3,691 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
combo52....

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thank you for sharing that bit of information about the damaging effects, that 2nd rinsing has on, not only your clothes, but also, the washer too. your message gave me a different way of thinking about 2nd rinsing. although, i don't do it all of the time, i just do it with towels cuz i hate to pull towels out of the washer and when you pull them into shape, you can hear the soap in the towels still. i don't like to hear the "crackling" sound of the soap still in the fabric. so, i use 2nd rinsing on towels only.

i don't think i use too much detergent when i'm washing clothes but with towels, maybe cuz i know where the towels go & rub, when we dry our bodies. maybe i MIGHT use a little extra detergent in the load of towels, just to be sure that they get clean. i might be guilty of doing that?
:o/


Post# 741491 , Reply# 25   3/12/2014 at 23:24 (3,691 days old) by e2l-arry (LAKEWOOD COLORADO)        
Again I remember being at the store

When my Mom bought her Maytag in 1965. The salesman showed her the 30 second spin rinse between the wash and rinse cycles. He called that the first rinse. Instead of the 3 shorter spin rinses her old Kenmore had the Maytag had the 1 longer 30 second rinse prior to the tub filling for the "deep" rinse. My Mom was convinced that it had an adequate rinse. At least on a par with, or slightly better than, the washer she was replacing, so no need for a 2nd full rinse.

The only machines I remember from the 60's that had more than 1 rinse was the Westinghouse front loaders and our neighbors Bendix Economat. Since that washer had the squeeze tub, no spin rinse for that one. So I remember that washer having a dial on the front for either one or two rinses. The neighbor, Mrs. Graf, always had it set for two, which for a machine like that was probably needed. But I agree, no point in wasting the water or the time if you don't need to


Post# 741495 , Reply# 26   3/13/2014 at 00:34 (3,690 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Hmmmmm... Just now glanced at the 2nd Rinse Disadvantages...

Good thing I'd gotten out of the habit of 'em; only used 'em on my daughter's baby clothes when she WAS a baby! (She's FOUR now...)

Now, the all-pushbutton A-906: Doesn't that have a RINSE ONLY selection? Is it for using as a Second Rinse, or could it be?


-- Dave


Post# 741509 , Reply# 27   3/13/2014 at 02:30 (3,690 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        
Confessions of a rinseaholic

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My (somewhat newer but still mechanical) FL has one spray and 3 fill rinses with a switch option for another for a total of 5. Which I ALWAYS used. You could almost drink the final rinse water, and that's the way I LIKE it.

Post# 741691 , Reply# 28   3/13/2014 at 21:19 (3,690 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Maytag 806 in mid-cities James!!!

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Post# 741733 , Reply# 29   3/14/2014 at 00:19 (3,689 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
Maytag 806 in mid-cities...

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appnut:
are you sure that's an 806??
it doesn't look like the panel lights up?? i mean, i could be wrong, but it kinda looks like maybe either a 208 or 608. but i could be wrong??


Post# 741771 , Reply# 30   3/14/2014 at 06:16 (3,689 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Christina, you are correct, it is a 606. The upper portion of the panel at initial glance did look like it was backlit. The initial washer in the thread only has 3 water temp buttons and this one has 4--meaning the added button is hot wash and cold rinse where the 3 button models were only hot wash warm rinse.

Post# 741873 , Reply# 31   3/14/2014 at 16:14 (3,689 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Easy way to tell from that picture, an 806 will have a small chrome divide above the timer, where the two pieces of glass meet.


Post# 741994 , Reply# 32   3/14/2014 at 22:09 (3,689 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
appnut.....

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hey bob!!

i was wrong too though!!! LOL.....
but we were both close!!!
ha ha ha.....
;o)


Post# 742560 , Reply# 33   3/16/2014 at 21:52 (3,687 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

I don't think that is a 606 either. Looks like 4 temperature buttons and 3 level buttons. That would make it a 208. It's difficult to be sure as the smaller details of the photo are somewhat blurry.

Post# 742596 , Reply# 34   3/17/2014 at 02:24 (3,686 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
70series...

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GOOD!!!
i'm glad i'm not the only one having trouble trying to see the details of the buttons!!! it is soooo hard to tell whether there are 3 or 4 buttons cuz I THINK the space filled up by the buttons is the exact same size on all the control panels. just the sizes of the buttons changed from 3 to 4, 4 being smaller buttons to fit into the same size of space that the 3 buttons fit into.

so, to me, sometimes it's hard to tell how many buttons there are, especially when the picture is taken far away, is blurry, or there isn't good lighting.

:o/



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