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Post# 112364   2/27/2006 at 13:50 (6,604 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        

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The Tucson wash-in will be graced by the addition of four new machines; three of which are from the fifties, one of which is from about 1980.

I wonder what they are?

Ross mentioned one...

Hmm. :-D

--Nate





Post# 112366 , Reply# 1   2/27/2006 at 13:52 (6,604 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Nate, I have met your wonderful Mom and I am sure that she taught you that it isn't nice to tease!!!! Terry

Post# 112404 , Reply# 2   2/27/2006 at 17:39 (6,604 days old) by westytoploader ()        

I know what the 1980 machine is (I think) but I'm not saying anything!! ;-)

Post# 112448 , Reply# 3   2/27/2006 at 20:02 (6,604 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hmmm let's see, does one of these machines have a Big B in it's name?



Post# 112700 , Reply# 4   3/1/2006 at 14:25 (6,602 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Mayyyyyyyybe...

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Robert -- ;-)

Terry -- True, but I'm sure my mom would also indicate that a good girl leaves SOME things to the imagination ;-)

LOL, Austin--I'd love to hear your theory :-P

--Nate


Post# 112756 , Reply# 5   3/1/2006 at 17:49 (6,602 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Never drop that seventh veil until the dowry has been negotiated.

Post# 112795 , Reply# 6   3/1/2006 at 21:30 (6,602 days old) by laundryboy (Orlando Florida & Moravia NY. )        

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Hey Nate,
did you ever get a chance to take some pics of your little green twintub?? If its what I think it is, its a panasonic tt, the one I have been searching for
Laundryboy


Post# 112828 , Reply# 7   3/2/2006 at 00:02 (6,601 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        
Here we go!

Here come the pics.

First, what has a checkmark and a B?


Post# 112829 , Reply# 8   3/2/2006 at 00:03 (6,601 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        

Filling...

Post# 112830 , Reply# 9   3/2/2006 at 00:04 (6,601 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        

Washing...

Post# 112831 , Reply# 10   3/2/2006 at 00:06 (6,601 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        

The drain...the spin!

Post# 112832 , Reply# 11   3/2/2006 at 00:07 (6,601 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        

I think that's veil number five...

...and then the HIGH-VELOCITY stream of water flushes all that lint and scum away in the overflow rinse...


Post# 112834 , Reply# 12   3/2/2006 at 00:09 (6,601 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        

Who needs electrical timers, anyhow?

Post# 112835 , Reply# 13   3/2/2006 at 00:10 (6,601 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        

And then there's Nate's machine, destined to stand next to it's GM brother. (Frigidaire lovers, you may now take to your beds!)

Post# 112836 , Reply# 14   3/2/2006 at 00:11 (6,601 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        

...complete with patented Splash-a-lation agitation!

The agitator acts as a pump, and water is pulled down through the "cones" and pumped out by fins on the underside.

Does it work? Not really. But isn't it great?


Post# 112837 , Reply# 15   3/2/2006 at 00:13 (6,601 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        

Splashy!

Note the Westinghouse--not Franklin-ized--design. Metal tubs and porcelain top--WCI must have been asleep that day, because there was actual quality in this machine (to an extent :-) )...


Post# 112838 , Reply# 16   3/2/2006 at 00:15 (6,601 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        

And now I know I've died and gone to Heaven, because...

(the sixth veil drops)


Post# 112839 , Reply# 17   3/2/2006 at 00:16 (6,601 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        

Ta-da!

Post# 112840 , Reply# 18   3/2/2006 at 00:17 (6,601 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        

By the way, if you ever simply remove the fins from your Frigidaire...

Post# 112841 , Reply# 19   3/2/2006 at 00:19 (6,601 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        

...you get a free Hotpoint Silhouette!

*chuckle* :-D


Post# 112842 , Reply# 20   3/2/2006 at 00:20 (6,601 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        

So there you go, boys...

All seven veils are now officially on the floor :-P


Post# 112843 , Reply# 21   3/2/2006 at 00:21 (6,601 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        
A little pre-taste of the Tucson wash-in...

...courtesy of Roger and Nate :-D

Post# 112852 , Reply# 22   3/2/2006 at 04:24 (6,601 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
OMG!!!

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All those To Die For machines and the Easy Spinner!!!

That Blackstone reminds me of a wide eyed bug, its so...well, FAB,

Serious Washer Heaven, Congratulations on your hard work!!! Just might have to check those plane tickets !!!

Cheers, Mike

p.s. Number 8 on POD


Post# 112878 , Reply# 23   3/2/2006 at 07:49 (6,601 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Oh Roger

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Congratulations on your Blackstone! What a year for Blackstone.
I can't quite see but is your tub Stainless? I have not seen a Blackstone 350 with a white top before. Nice machine!

And Congratulations on your WO-65, now your clothes will be really dry!

Isn't it amazing how sturdy those Blackstone's are?? I heard a 1/2 hour clean up and you were ready to go!
Be sure to fill the oil reservoir up on the drain pump,you don't want to lock up the belt on those westinghouse motors they don't like that! They tend to burn out easily.

I had to completely disassemble mine and build it up again to get it to work. It was a heavy use machine. But they are SOO quiet aren't they?
And I am always looking for aluminum marks on my whites from that agitator but have yet to find any! Why is that when you can take an aluminum pot and write your name with it on paper,yet an aluminum agitator leaves no marks on sheets??

have a blackstone ball!

jon


Post# 112880 , Reply# 24   3/2/2006 at 08:05 (6,601 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
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Thanks for the pics Roger, that WO-65-2 looks beautiful - the tub just shines! You'll have so much fun with it, with that Rapidry spin, you can toss out all your dryers and make room for more washers. Clothes will dry on the line faster than in a machine in that dry, Arizona heat! The Blackstone is beautiful, I can't believe it worked so well right out of the box!

Nate, that Frigidaire is really great, what do you think of it's performance? The agitation looks like it would be a lot gentler with the center fins removed and full tub of water. On slow speed, none of your veils will get even the slightest snag!

Have fun guys - they are all great machines!


Post# 112882 , Reply# 25   3/2/2006 at 08:48 (6,601 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Wow you guys! These are great finds, congratualtions!!! The Blackstone looks like its in Amazing condition.

Post# 112887 , Reply# 26   3/2/2006 at 09:14 (6,601 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Thanks so much for the great pictures Roger, and Congratulations to all you guys on the GREAT Finds. Seems like 2006 is going to be fantastic year! Can't wait to see the machines in person. Terry

Post# 112891 , Reply# 27   3/2/2006 at 09:26 (6,601 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        

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Help me up, I just passed out!
I just love that Frigidaire/Westinghouse agitator.

One of my tenant years ago had the the White Westinghouse with that same agitator and I wondered what those vents did at the bottom of the base and it just more for show than catching lint.......

Thanks for helping me up and the show and tell!!!


Post# 112902 , Reply# 28   3/2/2006 at 12:29 (6,601 days old) by bethann (Indianapolis)        

Congrads on the new babies! Their just beautiful!

Roger: Please don't let Ross near the WO-65! Or at least don't let him touch the dial! LOL!


Post# 112905 , Reply# 29   3/2/2006 at 13:10 (6,601 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Roger - the machines look great! Looks to be quite the time. Nates Westy-Aire is the EXACT Frigidaire I saw behind a box store a few months ago, minus a GM style window lid. I was quite bummed out that I didn't get the machine - but glad someone else out there has one!

Ben


Post# 112923 , Reply# 30   3/2/2006 at 15:51 (6,601 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
LOL

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Thanks, everyone!

Yes, thanks to a fun late night, all the veils are washed and folded neatly :-). Roger's Blackstone is just insanely fun.

The Designer-Impostor 1-18 had a nearly severe rust issue due to a teensy-tiny leak out of the fill flume (it's shaped rather like a large plastic kazoo, and if the hole at one end where the water comes it limes up, it pees water all inside the machine. It rusted the left-side bottom, and would have eventually popped one of the tub supports off had it not been caught and corrected, thanks to Roger's extensive expertise and spare-parts stash :-) To that end as well, the water valve had to be replaced--no cold water means no spray rinses, and that's icky.

Greg, the agitation is somewhere between the Westinghouse-ramped design for speed and the typical angel-winged WCI-Kelvinator for splashiness and turnover. I think the Franklin machines (with the good agitator) turned over better, but it's very splashy and tends to drag the clothes all over the place, kind of like a Norge. It's too much fun, and is so quiet. It, like the WCI-Kelvinator, also holds a lot of clothes. I like the lint filter better, though. Plus, the machine backflushes the lint filter when it spins, ridding the recirculation system of sudsy water. The WCI-Kelvy loved to barf soapy water (and a LOT of it) right into the rinse water as the rinse began (since it held a lot of water in the recirc system), and it made using fabric softener in that machine an almost impossible proposition (instant goo!).

The Fake Frigidaire without the fins is great if you keep the load ultra light. It still turns over well, although the drama is almost nil :-) It is lovely and gentle, though.

Larry, that's interesting...I wondered if it was really supposed to be a lint filtration system. It would probably work pretty well, but the holes are gigantic, and you could drive a truck through them, so they don't tend to hold much lint after an average washload.

The design of the machine is interesting; it has nice porcelain and steel tubs, and everything looks and feels substantial. Of course, WCI touches are everywhere--stainless-steel hinges but not screws; a cinder-block strapped to the tub as a counterweight; tape used as a fastener (where does tape EVER belong in a washer??). But overall, it's de-lovely.

Thank you all so much; I'm glad you enjoy the pics :-) I feel immodest but saucy without the veils ;-)

--Nate


Post# 112937 , Reply# 31   3/2/2006 at 17:46 (6,601 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Love those kewl machines! Great finds there! Congratulations

Post# 112939 , Reply# 32   3/2/2006 at 18:23 (6,601 days old) by golittlesport (California)        

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Thanks for the great pictures!

Post# 112942 , Reply# 33   3/2/2006 at 18:38 (6,601 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

Hi Larry...I have a White Westinghouse top loader similar to Nate' Frigidaire.....Ross

Post# 112944 , Reply# 34   3/2/2006 at 19:09 (6,601 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY!!!!! I finally get to see a Blackstone, I"ve wanted so badly ever since I knew of its existence. I"m gettin' excited for sure!!

Nate, you look incredible without the veil!!! (but then again, I"m biased)


Post# 112951 , Reply# 35   3/2/2006 at 20:11 (6,601 days old) by southernmdgeguy ()        
Great collection!

You all are going to have a great time! First Blackstone I have ever seen.
Scott


Post# 112954 , Reply# 36   3/2/2006 at 20:13 (6,601 days old) by westytoploader ()        
So many machines, so little time!

WOOHOO!!! CONGRATULATIONS TUCSON GANG--THE EXCITEMENT IS BUILDING!!!

Such awesome machines; 2006 has been a WONDERFUL year so far and I hope the new finds keep coming in at this rate!! First the bolt-down Kenmore, now a FULLY OPERATIONAL BLACKSTONE 350!! To say that this machine is incredible is an understatement...does this make the second working machine in the club? I never dreamed I would see one in action so soon; you can bet I'll be glued to it the whole time (just like the '59 Norge at the Convention LOL)!

The 1980 WCI 1-18 is very cool as well...I love that removeable-top agitator! The 1981 and 1985 Monkey Wards catalogs I have show that agitator for their "Montgomery Ward" branded lineup (alongside the Norge-made Signature series); I thought it was just an MW exclusive! It also reminds me of that Servis agitator that Mike posted; add the upper column for aggressive action! And Ross, since you hadn't mentioned the WW "Eighteen" yet, I thought that was the 1980 machine you were referring to but wasn't going to say anything!!

And another WO-65-2--YAY!!!! And with the original pulsator as well; how's the working condition?

Keep us posted...I CAN'T WAIT!!! :)

--Austin


Post# 112987 , Reply# 37   3/2/2006 at 22:17 (6,601 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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I just love the Blackstone. I always wanted to see one of these babies in action. Is it true that the tub or the adj actually lifts up when the washer goes into drain mode?

As for the Fake Frigidaire this one looks like the first fake produced as I remember (what a sad day) It was early in 1981 when these came out not 1980. They started to produce the plastic tubs in 1983. I never realized that part of the adj was removeable. It took them to long to get rid of the GM look. They should have made them look completly different from the start so maybe it wouldn't have been as much of an insult.
Peter


Post# 113075 , Reply# 38   3/3/2006 at 07:59 (6,600 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        

Thank you everyone one for your comments. My washer karma was defintiely good the day I got both of these machines. Nate and I both agree that doing a load in the Blackstone is such an experience you almost need to have a cigarette afterwards.
Jon- it does have a stainless steel tub- the same rib pattern your's has. Thanks for the pump info too. I hope to get a lot more technical info about these machines along the way. All the machines I have seen here have painted tops- I too thought they were all stainless.
Peteski- the tub does lift to drain and then lift more to engage the spin
Austin- the Frigidaire works but the spin bearing is noisy- that machine probably won't be running at the convnetion- I won't have time to do much to it before then. It is fun just to look at though- first one I have seen in Az in 35 years!
Roger


Post# 113237 , Reply# 39   3/3/2006 at 23:44 (6,600 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        

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:-D

Thank you both so much, Jon and Robert!

Bob--LOL!! ;-) Is it cold in here, or is it just me?

Austin, YES, you're absolutely right. In fact, outside of the same place in Phoenix where the Faux-1-18 was found was a Montgomery Wards machine with the same agitator--but MISSING the fins! (Can you imagine the poor soul who ends up with that machine? They'll be doing six-pound loads forevermore!)

Apparently the MW machines--at least sometimes--had the agitator in black, too.

I thought it was odd because I always equated Norge with Monkey Wards things. You never know, I guess!

If you like the WCI 1-18, you'll love Ross' Westinghouse top-loader. The ramped agitator really has a different wash action altogether. It's less splashy, but really moves those clothes. It also has a few other fun quirks that the WCI 1-18 doesn't, but I'll let Ross demonstrate those when you're here :-D

--Nate


Post# 113241 , Reply# 40   3/4/2006 at 00:52 (6,599 days old) by norgeman ()        
rogera608s Re: Frigidaire/ Westinghouse

When I worked for Montgomery Wards back in the early 80's we sold the same machine under the Wards brand but with the Westinghouse control panals and were built by Westinghouse for Montgomery Wards. They were a pretty good washer and didn't have a lot of service calls on them, but if we did get a service call it would be on one of the Westinghouse more often than the Norges. But I like the Frigidaire/Westinghouse washer you have. I would like to have one my self since I'm not real happy with my Maytag Neptune, but it will have to do.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO norgeman's LINK


Post# 113581 , Reply# 41   3/5/2006 at 21:41 (6,598 days old) by jamman_98 (Columbia, SC)        
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My parents owned one in the late 50's before I was born. Interesting machine and great pics.

Thanks
Joe
jamman_98


Post# 113739 , Reply# 42   3/6/2006 at 18:52 (6,597 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Ross' Westy and more

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Ross' Westinghouse has a much more awesome agitator on it than the Faux-18--it has the blue ramped agitator that really moves some clothes.

Laundryboy--We'll post pics of the little Bradford twinnie (which may be a Panasonic--we wouldn't be surprised) after the wash-in; we're not ignoring you--promise.

--Nate


Post# 114484 , Reply# 43   3/10/2006 at 20:19 (6,593 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Nate,

I saw the '68 Westinghouse at the Convention with that DEEP RAMP agitator (moreso than the Activator or Roto-Swirl IMHO) and was thoroughly impressed. It had awesome turnover even with the indexing tub!

Does Ross's Westinghouse have the smaller Handwash agitator under it like the '68, or is it just a 1-piece ramp?

That will be fun...more Westinghouse time at the Arizona Convention! The countdown begins...3 weeks WOOHOO!


Post# 114572 , Reply# 44   3/11/2006 at 08:49 (6,592 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

hi austin.....sorry but my white westinghouse only has the one agitator......ross

Post# 114654 , Reply# 45   3/11/2006 at 23:27 (6,592 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Although I was shocked and horrified when the 1980 1-18's came to the Frigidaire dealership in my town, it's kind of cool to see them again. I had an '86 Frigidaire but didn't like the agitator design and the transmission when south after only about a year. I like the agitator on yours much better.

And a Blackstone and a Unimatic.... I'm green with envy. Congrats on all your excellent finds!


Post# 114718 , Reply# 46   3/12/2006 at 10:14 (6,591 days old) by retromom ()        
Sensory overload!!!

I am really looking forward to seeing all of these wonderful machines!! It will be washer heaven in the desert southwest!!

Keep 'em running guys!!

Venus :-)



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